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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #45 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 10:12am

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

Good point FD - we can't have those pesky muslims deciding themselves what they do with their own society.

Yes we can Gandalf, if they have democracy. But if we had given them this backdoor Islamic dictatorship you are so fond of, they would have never gotten the chance.

So, you want to dismantle Iraq's democracy, and you will tell the most absurd and transparent lies in defence of the Taliban. Why do you always seem to side with the extremists?

Quite the opposite FD. I just finished describing how *actual* democracy in Iraq was quashed violently by US occupation forces - and your typically condescending response was that it would have been a "backdoor to Islamic dictatorship".

You are literally saying that its right and appropriate to make muslim's democratic choices for them - in case they choose the "wrong" kind of democracy.

Its you who is advocating dismantling democracy, not me. Also its this kind of arrogant dismissal of the will of the people and 'knowing whats best for you' attitude that gives succor to the extremists. So you probably should ask yourself "why do you always seem to side with the extremists"?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #46 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 31^st, 2019 at 1:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 7:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

That they would have assisted the US to invade their own country, if the US had only asked them.

Can you answer a simple question FD...

presented with two options:

a) have your regime overthrown by overwhelming military force
b) option B

What do you think even a misogynistic extremist, even-worse-than-Saudi-Arabia outfit like the taliban would have gone for?

take your time...

Are you talking about the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, or the American invasion?

Why would it be about the Russian one? The taliban didn't exist then.

The American invasion.

Gandalf are you suggesting the Taliban did not know about Russia's defeat, or that they knew what the outcome of an American invasion would be?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #47 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm I can't even begin to understand that FD. Try English.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #48 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:51pm Did FD answer your question, G? Are you satisfied?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49004 At my desk.	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #49 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm: I can't even begin to understand that FD. Try English. What is option B Gandalf?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #50 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:18pm freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm: I can't even begin to understand that FD. Try English. What is option B Gandalf? What were you saying about shifty, evasive Muslims, FD?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46154 Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #51 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 9:53pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm: I can't even begin to understand that FD. Try English. Taqiyya.
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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #52 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 12:43pm

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

I can't even begin to understand that FD.

Try English.

What is option B Gandalf?

Something other than having your regime overthrown with overwhelming force.

Was that a trick question FD? What the hell does that have to do with the Russians?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #53 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 7:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

I can't even begin to understand that FD.

Try English.

What is option B Gandalf?

Something other than having your regime overthrown with overwhelming force.

Was that a trick question FD? What the hell does that have to do with the Russians?

If you didn't try to maintain your regime by force you would have a point. But Muslims always hang on to power in the face of grim determination to overthrow them.

Daffy Gaddafy, Soddem, the eye surgeon of Syria, the gay Palo Dear Leader, (sloberring Yasser), the lot of them.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #54 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 9:47pm Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 9:53pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm: I can't even begin to understand that FD. Try English. Taqiyya. You no speaka da English, remember? You flew here, you poor downtrodden victim, so unfair.
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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #55 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 9:57am

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

I can't even begin to understand that FD.

Try English.

What is option B Gandalf?

Something other than having your regime overthrown with overwhelming force.

Was that a trick question FD? What the hell does that have to do with the Russians?

If you didn't try to maintain your regime by force you would have a point. But Muslims always hang on to power in the face of grim determination to overthrow them.

Daffy Gaddafy, Soddem, the eye surgeon of Syria, the gay Palo Dear Leader, (sloberring Yasser), the lot of them.

Literally none of those leaders can be described as 'muslim leaders'. They were/are staunchly secularist, every one of them. To the point that they actively persecute/d anyone with an Islamist bent.

In most cases, if not all, it was their Islamist enemies that the Americans cuddled up to in order to overthrow them - and thereby plunging them into Islamist hell-holes.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #56 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 12:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

I can't even begin to understand that FD.

Try English.

What is option B Gandalf?

Something other than having your regime overthrown with overwhelming force.

Was that a trick question FD? What the hell does that have to do with the Russians?

What is the point of the question then Gandalf?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

That they would have assisted the US to invade their own country, if the US had only asked them.

Can you answer a simple question FD...

presented with two options:

a) have your regime overthrown by overwhelming military force
b) option B

What do you think even a misogynistic extremist, even-worse-than-Saudi-Arabia outfit like the taliban would have gone for?

take your time...

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #57 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 2:20pm I was making the point that the taliban would have preferred literally anything other than being overthrown. And the US should have used this to squeeze them into a compromise that benefits everyone.
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Re: Muslims who support the Taliban
Reply #58 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 4:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 2:20pm:

I was making the point that the taliban would have preferred literally anything other than being overthrown. And the US should have used this to squeeze them into a compromise that benefits everyone.

Sure, but how would they get Freeeedom and become the next South Korea then?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46154 Gender:	Re: Muslims who support the Taliban Reply #59 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 8:22pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 2:20pm: I was making the point that the taliban would have preferred literally anything other than being overthrown. Dictators are like that, aren't they? Do they teach you this stuff in islamic debating classes or is this all your stuff?
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