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Karnal
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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 4:00pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 3:47pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 3:27pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 2:12pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 2:06pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 2:03pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 2:00pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 1:58pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 1:42pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 12:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 11:57am: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 6 th, 2019 at 11:44am: Loads of drugs come through Mexico via the border. The whole cartel industry is built on it. All the money , the people smuggling, the rape and the murder. Trump's argument is that all of the drugs are coming through where there are no barriers. That's quite simply not true, though (another Trump lie). The vast majority of drugs enter through official U.S. ports of entry, not the areas of border in between where additional barriers could be erected. 90 percent of heroin seized along the border, 88 percent of cocaine, 87 percent of methamphetamine, and 80 percent of fentanyl in the first 11 months of the 2018 fiscal year was caught trying to be smuggled in at legal crossing points. "Perhaps the best authority on how drugs are smuggled into the U.S. is Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the Mexican drug lord arrested by Mexican officials in 2016 and later extradited to the U.S.
"During his ongoing trial in New York, several of his cartel members have testified that they mostly pushed drugs through U.S. ports of entry, stashing bricks of narcotics in cars, trucks and trains.
"None of El Chapo's associates has testified that they moved drugs through the open border regions in between those ports." Indeed, and the traffic goes both ways. Mexico gets most of its illegal firearms from the US. The demand for those drugs comes from the US. The cartels get paid in US dollars. Many criminal gangs come from the US too. Mr Trump's favourite gang, MS13, was started in LA. Its killings and kidnappings are the reason for all those Honduran, Guatemalan and El Salvadorian refugees. Sorry - illegals. The wall will save lives, every life is important remember. Drugs are the scourge of society and if the wall just stops one hit getting through then it has done its job, wouldn't you say Kamel. Pretty expensive on that basis. Yes, they would be better off just planting land mines. If they planted land mines at the legal ports of entry - which is exactly where the drugs enter - the border guards, and many other innocent people, will be killed. Is that really what you want? They are walking the drugs through at every point of the border, don't you want to save precious lives Greg. You've just described the failings of your argument, Matty. Shipments of drugs and arms can't be walked over rivers and canyons where a wall would be useless. Not only would hardly anything get in, the smugglers would get caught. Stick to your land mine solution, dear. You'd kill off a few Indians and rattlesnakes. Americans would get to keep their cheap drugs. Funny stuff, a mere river or canyon will stop the drugs. The pink rocks are top priority ATM. It's all academic. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aEIunZoXJ24/hqdefault.jpgThe drugs come in trucks and cars, through the legal ports of entry. Both the DEA and the drug cartels confirm this. (I was in that TV show) Quite so. I must say, it's fascinating the way people are prepared to dispense with facts to carry out Mr Trump's will. Aquascoot's right - it's like a cult. Aquascoot, mind you, is no fan of facts. When it comes to Mr Trump, not only is Aquascoot prepared to dispense with facts, he'll obliterate the very foundation of ontology itself. The Western tradition - gone. The scientific method - eradicated. The rule of law - outlawed. Logic, reason, curiousity: criminalised. BANNED, KILLED, CESTERETED. EXTINGUISHED from the very pages of history. As Goebbels said, the public must give in to their overwhelming desire to obey. As Orwell said, the future is a jackboot stomping on a human face. Two plus two must be made to equal five. Winston Smith finally got this. You?
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