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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead Reply #45 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 6:33am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 10:21am: Yadda ... What specifically about Trump makes you believe he is Christian? Am waiting for this one ...
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Reply #46 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2019 at 6:18am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

Again, can I repeat the question so I can get an answer, what in Trumps life and behaviour do you Yadda see as christianlike.

He won the election ok!

What, what does the commandments say about lying again?

trumps lying is very interesting.

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

yes, fat steve and fat janeen are stupid.
aquascoot would tell them to never complain, to be "all that they can be"
that they live in america, the land of opportunity and if they arent doing well, they are just pathetic.

and that would be the TRUTH.

but that aint what they want to hear,

they think "the man" is "holding them back"
they probably sit around whinging and bitching about "the guberment".
they are not living in the realm of truth.

they are living in the realm of "wish fulfilment".

america, home of the the mormons and scientology and the quakers, home of conspiracy theory and the kardashians lives in a "non reality".

you and i both agree that fat steve and fat janeen are stooopid.

but Hilary telling them they are "the deplorables" is unlikely to make them sit down and evaluate all the ways they are messing up.
and YOU calling them stoopid is also unlikely to cause them to radically alter their beliefs.

the donald "knows his people"
he would have made an excellent cult leader.
in fact he probably is an excellent cult leader.

but the left need to "seek first to understand before asking to be understood".

go ahead and have yourself and karnal and hilary call the trump supporters stoopid and deplorable and racist.

they may well be.

but that line of reasoning is more stooopid then a trump supporter .

the Donald knows that your attitude is exactly what he needs his cult to hear.
it is music to his ears Cheesy

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Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead
Reply #47 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:19am

Richdude wrote on Jan 31^st, 2019 at 2:10am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

Again, can I repeat the question so I can get an answer, what in Trumps life and behaviour do you Yadda see as christianlike.

Well he starts most meetings with a prayer. He also prays to God for his country, family and his own safety.

That doesn't make him a Hare Krishna! Does that answer you question Horsy?

So in other words, you can murder, rape and pillage as long as you pray. Again, it doesnt answer the question

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead Reply #48 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:21am OK, how about a different tack. In the past I've taught a subject on catholic social thought principles. I am going to list the ones I show the students and I would like Yadda to go through the list and say which one he thinks Trump follows.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead Reply #49 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:24am Dignity of the Human Person Common Good Preferential Option for the Poor (if you can get this Yadda, I'll be thrilled) Subsidiarity Universal Purpose of Goods Stewardship of Creation Promotion of Peace Participation Global Solidarity
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Reply #50 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:27am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2019 at 6:18am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 30^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

Again, can I repeat the question so I can get an answer, what in Trumps life and behaviour do you Yadda see as christianlike.

He won the election ok!

What, what does the commandments say about lying again?

trumps lying is very interesting.

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

yes, fat steve and fat janeen are stupid.
aquascoot would tell them to never complain, to be "all that they can be"
that they live in america, the land of opportunity and if they arent doing well, they are just pathetic.

and that would be the TRUTH.

but that aint what they want to hear,

they think "the man" is "holding them back"
they probably sit around whinging and bitching about "the guberment".
they are not living in the realm of truth.

they are living in the realm of "wish fulfilment".

america, home of the the mormons and scientology and the quakers, home of conspiracy theory and the kardashians lives in a "non reality".

you and i both agree that fat steve and fat janeen are stooopid.

but Hilary telling them they are "the deplorables" is unlikely to make them sit down and evaluate all the ways they are messing up.
and YOU calling them stoopid is also unlikely to cause them to radically alter their beliefs.

the donald "knows his people"
he would have made an excellent cult leader.
in fact he probably is an excellent cult leader.

but the left need to "seek first to understand before asking to be understood".

go ahead and have yourself and karnal and hilary call the trump supporters stoopid and deplorable and racist.

they may well be.

but that line of reasoning is more stooopid then a trump supporter .

the Donald knows that your attitude is exactly what he needs his cult to hear.
it is music to his ears Cheesy

You've finally come round, dear.

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Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead
Reply #51 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

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Reply #52 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:33am

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

unfortunately you are 100 % wrong.

trump got into the white house because he recognised the reality of the durr state that most members of society live in.

i think the donald had been talking about running for 20 years.

but he recognised (with steve bannons help) that the interent had made the truth a very fluid concept.
he recognised that steve and janeen are addicted to their social media "fake news" and now he had the tool to weaponise their lower consciousness. trump recognised that , with the rise of the internet, a 10 second tweet is all that steve and janeen can digest.

and so he took action at precisely the right moment using precisely the correct weapon.

trump also recognised that the news media are now driven totally by ratings and that "outrageous content" gets eyeballs. so he new the mainstream media would not be able to resist giving him tons of publicity if he just kept saying outrageous things.

blame the Donald if you want.

i dont.

the durr state and fragmented concentration of the masses means that they manifested trump.

you dont attract what you want Skippy, you attract what you ARE.

steve and janeen are trumpoid in their nature. trumpoid to the core.
YOU are the one who doesnt understand pyschology.

the Donald and myself understand it perfectly Cheesy

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Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead
Reply #53 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:37am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

YOU are the one who doesnt understand pyschology.

the Donald and myself understand it perfectly

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Reply #55 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:54am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

unfortunately you are 100 % wrong.

Ask yourself this, if you have to spin such a complex and convoluted web to excuse the FACT, that Trump was 1000 times worse than Clinton when comes to honesty and it was a fuindemantal component of his campaign.

He needs to be held to account for that, but the fact that he lies so very much it's become normal.

It's unacceptable.

Trump hasn't lowered the bar for the Oval Office, he has thrown it away.

This is unforgivable.

Yet you're trying.

It's not a matter of not understanding or understanding anything, but since you can word salad your way out of having to deal with that, this is why you try.

Nobody is buying your poo anymore.

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Reply #56 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:59am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

that must be a GIF of the Donald laughing at all the leftards who stomp their feet and refuse to accept the new "reality" Grin

It's ironic that you consider his total abandonment of reality as the new reality.

Nobody has to accept it, and they shouldn't.

They should accept the Trump is so dishonest that nothing he says can be trusted, but they shouldn't just let that be.

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Reply #57 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:53am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

unfortunately you are 100 % wrong.

trump got into the white house because he recognised the reality of the durr state that most members of society live in.

i think the donald had been talking about running for 20 years.

but he recognised (with steve bannons help) that the interent had made the truth a very fluid concept.
he recognised that steve and janeen are addicted to their social media "fake news" and now he had the tool to weaponise their lower consciousness. trump recognised that , with the rise of the internet, a 10 second tweet is all that steve and janeen can digest.

and so he took action at precisely the right moment using precisely the correct weapon.

trump also recognised that the news media are now driven totally by ratings and that "outrageous content" gets eyeballs. so he new the mainstream media would not be able to resist giving him tons of publicity if he just kept saying outrageous things.

blame the Donald if you want.

i dont.

the durr state and fragmented concentration of the masses means that they manifested trump.

you dont attract what you want Skippy, you attract what you ARE.

steve and janeen are trumpoid in their nature. trumpoid to the core.
YOU are the one who doesnt understand pyschology.

the Donald and myself understand it perfectly Cheesy

The Donald understands it perfectly because he is the very epitome of the durr state, dear. His entire life to date has been accumulating tacky baubles in an attempt to show how great he is. Gold-plated lifts, fake Renoirs, the most expensive private yacht in the world that he bought only to say that he had the most expensive yacht in the world.

The money? It all came from his dad and investors who lost their shirts. The truth is the Donald owns the most kitch apartment in the world, full of fake Louis IV furniture and gold-plated fittings.

The Donald lives the durr state, dear. He's a spoilt rich kid who's been carried on the "narrow path to success". He has no idea of how Fat Steve and Janeen live, just that in Amerika, they value all that krap.

The Donald thinks this makes him "respectable". The Superior Man sees a man in the durr state - a man incapable of governing his own life. The Donald values krap. He has no sense of work, drive or integrity. He sells the Trump brand as the mark of success, but no one in the US can invest because of the bankruptcies - no bank or insurer will underwrite it.The Trump brand is a financial risk because of the Donald.

The "narrow path to success" is paved with discipline, integrity, honesty, compassion. All the great books and teachings tell you this. The Donald is the only man to sell a series of ghostwritten self-help books that instruct people on to get one over the other guy. Just imagine: books like How To Win Friends and Influence People teach listening, understanding, cooperation, win-win. The Donald instructs his followers to make the other guy lose. The other guy has to give away something dear to him to satisfy the Donald. He calls this an art.

You?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95185 Gender:	Re: America is led by a 'crazy' and 'unchristian' lead Reply #58 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 1:06pm Karnal wrote on Feb 1^st, 2019 at 11:21am: A playful salesman, eh? Okay, how about a politician, hypothetically speaking of course, who lied about sleeping with a certain woman? Should he be impeached? Aquascoot, you forgot to answer this one, dear.
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Reply #59 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 1:31pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 9:21pm:

It's not, he's a lying sack of poo who said he could be trusted to be honest when Clinton couldn't.

He lied about his honesty.

It's not interesting, it's pathetic.

His supporters are frankly stupid if they ever believe a word he says.

sad,

you need to understand the way the above 2 highlighted phrases interplay.

I don't care about your excuses anymore.

You either hold Trump against his own demands of his opponents and demand accountability when he doesn't measure up, or you're a Trumptard who should be ignored because you don't care about reality, only protecting that ungrateful and undeserving bastard.

No amount of bullshit excuses or cereal box phycology degree diagnoses will help you now.

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

unfortunately you are 100 % wrong.

trump got into the white house because he recognised the reality of the durr state that most members of society live in.

i think the donald had been talking about running for 20 years.

but he recognised (with steve bannons help) that the interent had made the truth a very fluid concept.
he recognised that steve and janeen are addicted to their social media "fake news" and now he had the tool to weaponise their lower consciousness. trump recognised that , with the rise of the internet, a 10 second tweet is all that steve and janeen can digest.

and so he took action at precisely the right moment using precisely the correct weapon.

trump also recognised that the news media are now driven totally by ratings and that "outrageous content" gets eyeballs. so he new the mainstream media would not be able to resist giving him tons of publicity if he just kept saying outrageous things.

blame the Donald if you want.

i dont.

the durr state and fragmented concentration of the masses means that they manifested trump.

you dont attract what you want Skippy, you attract what you ARE.

steve and janeen are trumpoid in their nature. trumpoid to the core.
YOU are the one who doesnt understand pyschology.

the Donald and myself understand it perfectly Cheesy

The Donald understands it perfectly because he is the very epitome of the durr state, dear. His entire life to date has been accumulating tacky baubles in an attempt to show how great he is. Gold-plated lifts, fake Renoirs, the most expensive private yacht in the world that he bought only to say that he had the most expensive yacht in the world.

The money? It all came from his dad and investors who lost their shirts. The truth is the Donald owns the most kitch apartment in the world, full of fake Louis IV furniture and gold-plated fittings.

The Donald lives the durr state, dear. He's a spoilt rich kid who's been carried on the "narrow path to success". He has no idea of how Fat Steve and Janeen live, just that in Amerika, they value all that krap.

The Donald thinks this makes him "respectable". The Superior Man sees a man in the durr state - a man incapable of governing his own life. The Donald values krap. He has no sense of work, drive or integrity. He sells the Trump brand as the mark of success, but no one in the US can invest because of the bankruptcies - no bank or insurer will underwrite it.The Trump brand is a financial risk because of the Donald.

The "narrow path to success" is paved with discipline, integrity, honesty, compassion. All the great books and teachings tell you this. The Donald is the only man to sell a series of ghostwritten self-help books that instruct people on to get one over the other guy. Just imagine: books like How To Win Friends and Influence People teach listening, understanding, cooperation, win-win. The Donald instructs his followers to make the other guy lose. The other guy has to give away something dear to him to satisfy the Donald. He calls this an art.

You?

100 % agree.
thats why its a "narrow path"
thats why you are living in a false reality if you think many people are on this "narrow path"
they arent.
america is on the path of "pop culture, entertainment, stimulation, sugar and fat and a 5 second attention span".

when there is a motorway of people on THAT path and a few elite people on the "narrow path", you would be living in a false reality to try to convert this to the seat of power on the basis of how many people are on each path.

the donald is tapping into the durr state mentality.

you think all politicians dont tap into this rich vein of durr state losers by pandering to their jealousy, laziness, undisciplined cry baby mentality?

its just the donald doesnt "pretend", as in "lie" that he is doing otherwise.

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