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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 5:13pm
 

"Offered $25B for his wall, he refused. Offered $5B for his wall, he refused. Offered $1.6B for the Wall, he refused and threw a tantrum and shut down the govt. Now he has accepted $1.3B for a FENCE. This is how you 'negotitate' the trump way and it explains all of his epic failures."

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Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:23am
 
American taxpayers are continuing to fund border security measures and border walls in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, and Lebanon with President Trump’s signing of a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spending bill..

While the United States-Mexico border received only $1.3 billion for construction of a border wall at the overwhelmed southern border with soaring illegal immigration, foreign countries are getting help from American taxpayers to secure their borders.

The Republican-Democrat spending bill signed by Trump last week provides Pakistan with at least $15 million in U.S. taxpayer money for “border security programs” a

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/18/u-s-taxpayers-fund-border-walls-in...
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #17 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
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you are still years behind Edison.

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Who Cares what the Demon-Rats say!!??
Reply #18 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 9:43am
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




FRIG NO!
That's why I'm me.
I might be 'down under' them.
But I'm still a 'day ahead' of them.  Wink



you are still years behind Edison.

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Edison had 50 innovators to do his work for him. That's the only smart thing he did.  Roll Eyes
Then again, Einstein worked in a Patents Office where everyone submitted their 'Theories' via him.  Roll Eyes

And yet here you all are, Longy, Sad Roo and Marlaka.
Still falling for a
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Ranga.
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Re: Who Cares what the Demon-Rats say!!??
Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 10:00am
 
Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 9:43am:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




FRIG NO!
That's why I'm me.
I might be 'down under' them.
But I'm still a 'day ahead' of them.  Wink



you are still years behind Edison.

dummie


Edison had 50 innovators to do his work for him. That's the only smart thing he did.  Roll Eyes
Then again, Einstein worked in a Patents Office where everyone submitted their 'Theories' via him.  Roll Eyes

And yet here you all are, Longy, Sad Roo and Marlaka.
Still falling for a
'Red Herring'
by a
Ranga.
  Grin Grin Grin Grin



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the 'emergency' is now stuck in court. Nothing will happen for a very long time until the courts finally decide to nix it.

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Re: Who Cares what the Demon-Rats say!!??
Reply #20 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 5:47pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 9:43am:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




FRIG NO!
That's why I'm me.
I might be 'down under' them.
But I'm still a 'day ahead' of them.  Wink



you are still years behind Edison.

dummie


Edison had 50 innovators to do his work for him. That's the only smart thing he did.  Roll Eyes
Then again, Einstein worked in a Patents Office where everyone submitted their 'Theories' via him.  Roll Eyes

And yet here you all are, Longy, Sad Roo and Marlaka.
Still falling for a
'Red Herring'
by a
Ranga.
  Grin Grin Grin Grin



[url]https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/gullvers_presiden
t.jpg[/url]

Just when they think they got him tied down...... Grin Grin Grin







the 'emergency' is now stuck in court. Nothing will happen for a very long time until the courts finally decide to nix it.

idiot


Here is the thing that doesn't make sense.  If it really is an emergency, Trump has done everything in his power to avoid building the wall, literally the opposite you'd do if it were an emergency.

He had 2 years of control to build the wall after he'd been talking about it for nearly 2 years before winning the election.

That's 4 years of knowing about the issue, yet only now it's considered an emergency after he couldn't get funding for it, again, after he claimed Mexico would pay?

He had the offer of $25billion of funding for the wall, he turned it down.

Later he demanded $5.7billion and shutdown the government over it.

Now instead of taking the $1.3billion, he lost that and it went down to about 55 miles of fence, not even wall.

Rather than going to the negotiating table, he declared the national emergency, after admitting it wasn't necessary, and on the announcement proceeded to tell us all about how it would go to the courts etc, so he knew that would happen too.

It seems like every decision he's made is either a brilliant move in his 4D chess game of "I will say I want to build the wall, but I don't actually want to build it at all", or he can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag and is a giant incompetent fraud.

The issue is political, it's not an emergency.  He and his supporters have failed at every attempt to justify the wall.  Every single attempt.

And on top of that, there is no reason for Trump to have gone this long without getting it built already.  Yes, he's changed his slogan from "Built the wall" to "Finish the wall", but even that's a lie because none of his wall has got a dollar of funding let alone been built.

It's just spin, like, deceit and fake news.  Presidential Candidate Trump could get away with that, but sitting President Trump should be held to a much higher standard.

He's using the issue, he's using the declaration of a National Emergency for purely political purposes for his reelection changes in 2020.

There is no greater disrespect to the people, the constitution or the country than that.

Trump has done a lot of despicable things, but this is unforgivable.  The precedent he's setting is going to be disastrous for the country for decades to come.

Yet the braindead like Panther parrot the talking points, flip flop on all their past positions and show not an ounce of integrity or conviction in their claims supporting Trump against their own interests above all else.

Bloody idiots, all of them.
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Reply #21 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm
 
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin
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Reply #22 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.
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Reply #23 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #24 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:57pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes

Schlemiel even!!
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #25 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:02pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes


I suppose technically it would be possible to say something sillier.

It is true that the numbers today are much better than they were a decade ago.

It is true that virtually all the drugs are transported by means that a wall would never impact in any way.

More people trafficking occurs within the USA than across their boarder and again a wall would have no impact.
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #26 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:06pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes


I suppose technically it would be possible to say something sillier.

It is true that the numbers today are much better than they were a decade ago.

It is true that virtually all the drugs are transported by means that a wall would never impact in any way.

More people trafficking occurs within the USA than across their boarder and again a wall would have no impact.


And like FreeDiver, saying that 'Canals' would not 'help' the Australian 'Flood/Drought' situations ...but both of you do not offer a better alternative and to hide the fact that you can't provide a better alternative - you deny the 'reason' for such, as being factual.

Last year - murders, homocides, etc in Mexico 'tripled' from the previous year.
It's a nation out of control and a Wall is like a Bullet Proof Vest. That's all. Any help is good help.

So as you were saying... your 'alternative' solution to a Wall (just a start you know  Wink) is??????

Roll Eyes
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #27 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:25pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes


I suppose technically it would be possible to say something sillier.

It is true that the numbers today are much better than they were a decade ago.

It is true that virtually all the drugs are transported by means that a wall would never impact in any way.

More people trafficking occurs within the USA than across their boarder and again a wall would have no impact.


And like FreeDiver, saying that 'Canals' would not 'help' the Australian 'Flood/Drought' situations ...but both of you do not offer a better alternative and to hide the fact that you can't provide a better alternative - you deny the 'reason' for such, as being factual.

Last year - murders, homocides, etc in Mexico 'tripled' from the previous year.
It's a nation out of control and a Wall is like a Bullet Proof Vest. That's all. Any help is good help.

So as you were saying... your 'alternative' solution to a Wall (just a start you know  Wink) is??????

Roll Eyes


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Last year - murders, homocides, etc in Mexico 'tripled


Not clever to argue a statistic where Mexico is better than the USA, More Mexicans would likely lower the shooting death rate. Mexico have an av of 7 per 100K where the USA is at about 11.

I do not need to have a solution to a non problem to know that spending over $100 Billion doing something that won't work is stupid.

It is literally a fact that doing nothing would achieve at worst the same result as building a 3,000 Mile wall in terms of all the reasons stated for doing it.

Obviously work done at major and minor boarder crossings in terms of numbers people technology etc would have a positive impact.
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #28 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 8:53pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
I'm still waiting.
What are the Democrats and you Anti-Trumpers going to do about the Mexican problem, if you deny a 'Wall'??
What's your alternative solution?
Do you deny that Mexico is a problem and that they don't have a disease that will infect you?

Put up or shut up!!  Grin


going to do about the Mexican problem


What problem ?

It is better now than it was 10 years ago when it wasn't a problem ?

The fence will do nothing that actually doing nothing would do just as well if not better.

Building a fence will not achieve one of its stated goals, it's a fool solution to a problem that does not exist.


Oh what a load of crap.
Only a Mexican like you would point a gun at someone, ask for their money and say on OzPol "This is not a mugging!"
You're what the Jews call - a 'schmuck'.  Roll Eyes


The problem is there is no evidence to support the "Mexican Problem" narrative, and hence there is no justification for the wall.

You'll need some evidence if you want to make those claims.
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Reply #29 - Feb 20th, 2019 at 10:19pm
 
Liberal speaking to his son, walls only work for the Elite!



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