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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47305 Gender:	Democrats say "No!" to Wall Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:42pm The Democrats have said "No!" to the Mexico-USA 'Wall'. Stating that it is an 'illusion'. So the Democrats have taken up the Challenge by Trump. They are putting forth that they can offer a 'better' solution to the Mexican problem.
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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74217 Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #1 - Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:43pm gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47305 Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2019 at 9:02pm John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:43pm: gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin FRIG NO! That's why I'm me. I might be 'down under' them. But I'm still a 'day ahead' of them.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13494 Colorado Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #3 - Feb 17^th, 2019 at 3:11am Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 9:02pm: That's why I'm me. A stupid, racist troll bigot.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13494 Colorado Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #4 - Feb 17^th, 2019 at 4:00am
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #5 - Feb 17^th, 2019 at 8:38pm

Marla wrote on Feb 17^th, 2019 at 3:11am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

That's why I'm me.

A stupid, racist troll bigot.

Possibly a better outcome than being a mindless unimaginative junkie with no personality and typing grace of a chimp in a science experiment with electrodes inserted into her skull to stimulate cognitive behavioral patterns when faced with something she doesn't like and has no control over.
Marla has the mentality of a Moslem molesting children and feeling justified and empowered by a Book letting her get away with it ...like a Media letting her get away with it.
Scrubber with Tattoos and an inability to adapt to the New Worlds like the one she is in.
She is a Stranger in her own Strange Land.

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Richdude Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8457 NC Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #6 - Feb 17^th, 2019 at 11:23pm Democrats don't want the wall. Why have they changed their minds - this is why. Corrupt bastards. Letting in rapists and MS13 thugs and being paid millions to do so is moral - according to Nancy.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13494 Colorado Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 1:44am
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Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:45am

Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

The Democrats have said "No!" to the Mexico-USA 'Wall'.
Stating that it is an 'illusion'.

So the Democrats have taken up the Challenge by Trump.
They are putting forth that they can offer a 'better' solution to the Mexican problem.

Finally some sense in this debate.

The Wall in terms of it being an impenetrable barrier and will reduce the instances of crime, drugs, rapes etc, it a total illusion.

It will not be impenetrable and as we know from all the statistics, even those from the Government themselves, the wall will not target the source of all the issues Trump has been using to justify it.

All that money, all those resources, they'll be totally wasted, just like the sacrifice of all those workers during the shutdown, that was wasted and for absolutely nothing, and now where the funds will be diverted from if they ever flow brings up other issues.

Either Trump has lied and the Generals didn't tell him they have all this spare money that they wouldn't even miss if he used it for a wall, OR, they're getting far too much money that they have spare in which case their budget should be reduced.

Personally, I think it's a combination of the two.

But either way, when you negotiate in good faith with the Trump administration, then they declare a national emergency anyway, you don't negotiate and give on certain areas as is the norm in a negotiation again.

Trump is just making blunder after blunder.

He could have had 5 times the amount he claims it will cost to build the wall, but he's such a bad negotiator he's only got 55 miles of the wall now, so he's had to bypass Congress and the constitution to get his funding.

His incompetence is starting to get embarrassing and I'm not even American.

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BigP Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1924 West Auckland Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #9 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:10am Marla wrote on Feb 17^th, 2019 at 3:11am: Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 9:02pm: That's why I'm me. A stupid, racist troll bigot. I think hes one of yours Marlon
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136333 Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #10 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:16am Marla wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 1:44am: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71rvU82MiSL._SX522_.jpg There's an 'I' missing from aluminium.
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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #11 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:18am

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

The Democrats have said "No!" to the Mexico-USA 'Wall'.
Stating that it is an 'illusion'.

So the Democrats have taken up the Challenge by Trump.
They are putting forth that they can offer a 'better' solution to the Mexican problem.

Finally some sense in this debate.

The Wall in terms of it being an impenetrable barrier and will reduce the instances of crime, drugs, rapes etc, it a total illusion.

It will not be impenetrable and as we know from all the statistics, even those from the Government themselves, the wall will not target the source of all the issues Trump has been using to justify it.

All that money, all those resources, they'll be totally wasted, just like the sacrifice of all those workers during the shutdown, that was wasted and for absolutely nothing, and now where the funds will be diverted from if they ever flow brings up other issues.

Either Trump has lied and the Generals didn't tell him they have all this spare money that they wouldn't even miss if he used it for a wall, OR, they're getting far too much money that they have spare in which case their budget should be reduced.

Personally, I think it's a combination of the two.

But either way, when you negotiate in good faith with the Trump administration, then they declare a national emergency anyway, you don't negotiate and give on certain areas as is the norm in a negotiation again.

Trump is just making blunder after blunder.

He could have had 5 times the amount he claims it will cost to build the wall, but he's such a bad negotiator he's only got 55 miles of the wall now, so he's had to bypass Congress and the constitution to get his funding.

His incompetence is starting to get embarrassing and I'm not even American.

You have the most eloquent and persuasive take on the Wall of anyone I've read here, Sad. Your work is SWAMP DRAINING.

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Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall
Reply #12 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 10:17am

Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:18am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

The Democrats have said "No!" to the Mexico-USA 'Wall'.
Stating that it is an 'illusion'.

So the Democrats have taken up the Challenge by Trump.
They are putting forth that they can offer a 'better' solution to the Mexican problem.

Finally some sense in this debate.

The Wall in terms of it being an impenetrable barrier and will reduce the instances of crime, drugs, rapes etc, it a total illusion.

It will not be impenetrable and as we know from all the statistics, even those from the Government themselves, the wall will not target the source of all the issues Trump has been using to justify it.

All that money, all those resources, they'll be totally wasted, just like the sacrifice of all those workers during the shutdown, that was wasted and for absolutely nothing, and now where the funds will be diverted from if they ever flow brings up other issues.

Either Trump has lied and the Generals didn't tell him they have all this spare money that they wouldn't even miss if he used it for a wall, OR, they're getting far too much money that they have spare in which case their budget should be reduced.

Personally, I think it's a combination of the two.

But either way, when you negotiate in good faith with the Trump administration, then they declare a national emergency anyway, you don't negotiate and give on certain areas as is the norm in a negotiation again.

Trump is just making blunder after blunder.

He could have had 5 times the amount he claims it will cost to build the wall, but he's such a bad negotiator he's only got 55 miles of the wall now, so he's had to bypass Congress and the constitution to get his funding.

His incompetence is starting to get embarrassing and I'm not even American.

You have the most eloquent and persuasive take on the Wall of anyone I've read here, Sad. Your work is SWAMP DRAINING.

Maybe you could entertain us with a little Karnal knowledge ?

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Democrats say "No!" to Wall Reply #13 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 4:57pm Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:43pm: gee, they can't get one past you can they Jasin FRIG NO! That's why I'm me. I might be 'down under' them. But I'm still a 'day ahead' of them. you are still years behind Edison. dummie
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Reply #14 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 5:03pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 16^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

The Democrats have said "No!" to the Mexico-USA 'Wall'.
Stating that it is an 'illusion'.

So the Democrats have taken up the Challenge by Trump.
They are putting forth that they can offer a 'better' solution to the Mexican problem.

Finally some sense in this debate.

The Wall in terms of it being an impenetrable barrier and will reduce the instances of crime, drugs, rapes etc, it a total illusion.

It will not be impenetrable and as we know from all the statistics, even those from the Government themselves, the wall will not target the source of all the issues Trump has been using to justify it.

All that money, all those resources, they'll be totally wasted, just like the sacrifice of all those workers during the shutdown, that was wasted and for absolutely nothing, and now where the funds will be diverted from if they ever flow brings up other issues.

Either Trump has lied and the Generals didn't tell him they have all this spare money that they wouldn't even miss if he used it for a wall, OR, they're getting far too much money that they have spare in which case their budget should be reduced.

Personally, I think it's a combination of the two.

But either way, when you negotiate in good faith with the Trump administration, then they declare a national emergency anyway, you don't negotiate and give on certain areas as is the norm in a negotiation again.

Trump is just making blunder after blunder.

He could have had 5 times the amount he claims it will cost to build the wall, but he's such a bad negotiator he's only got 55 miles of the wall now, so he's had to bypass Congress and the constitution to get his funding.

His incompetence is starting to get embarrassing and I'm not even American.

Trumps; only 'genius' is in fact, his stellar incompetence and idiocy. People have eondered how he could possibly bankrupt casinos - virtually licences to print money. No we see how he did it.

Offered $25B for his wall, he refused. Offered $5B for his wall, he refused. Offered $1.6B for the Wall, he refused and threw a tantrum and shut down the govt. Now he has accepted $1.3B for a FENCE. This is how you 'negotitate' the trump way and it explains all of his epic failures.

But he leaves the best till last. Now he is declaring an emergency which blatantly is not one at all. But not one to give his attempts any chance of success he literally admits it isnt and emergency and is purely political. Literally says those very words. So not even the most conservative judge can possibly give him the benefit of the doubt.

Trump could write the book - 'The art of being stupid' or ' how to make the worst possible decisions' and be brilliantly correct.

other than that, the man makes stupid people look like Einstein.

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