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Reply #105 - Mar 15^th, 2019 at 8:29pm

moses wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 2:20pm:

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The non-peaceful parts of the Bible have not been corrected or "renounced", dear. The Torah and the Bible are seen by Judaism and Christianity as the unerring, unalterable word of God.

I think they believe / know the books are the words of men (not God), said men are driven by their ruling spirit.

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Indeed, it was so unalterable that the Old Testament was handed down through the generations by word of mouth. Not a word was changed.

Oh well thank goodness for that, and here's me thinking the bible was Fifteen Hundred Years In The Making. The Bible Was Written By Many Authors With Many Occupations. Scripture Was Written In Different Literary Forms. It Was Written Upon Three Continents. Scripture Was Composed In Many Different Circumstances. Three Different Languages Were Employed In Scripture. There Are Many Different Subjects Covered In The Bible. Most Authors Did Not Know One Another

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Christians don't have to renounce St Paul's views to allow female ministers or accept gays into their congregations. Jews don't have to renounce Leviticus to justify not stoning adulterers to death. Indeed, many religious Jews don't even circumcise their sons (or any servants they may have). They certainly don't all sacrifice lambs at Passover.

St Pauls view is just that his view of society 2019 years ago.

As far as I know there is absolutely nothing in the O.T. which tells the Jews that their societal laws were binding for all times.

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It is quite possible to be a modern subject and have an ancient religion without "renouncing" anything. Jews sometimes conduct a symbolic bris for their sons without the circumcision. They hold to the belief that it's the thought that counts. Jews will even put "symbolic" blood on their doorsteps for Passover - quite an evolution for a religion based on a blood covenant.

Except for one over riding fact, the qur'an is primarily about muslim supremacy and oppression of the non muslim. It is written in the present tense, so the commands to thieve rape torture and kill are as relevant today as they were 1400 years ago.

That is exactly what is happening right now, muslims around the globe are following the literal qur'an and committing human rights atrocities, as a religious requirement.

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The Quran, of course, outlines no such specific laws or rituals. The 5 pillars is it. Even circumcision is just a recommendation.

So I'm curious. Why should only Muslims have to renounce their book? Why not Jews and Christians?

Just how much crap are you capable of?

64% of the qur'an is devoted to the muslim supremacist oppression of the non believer.

Hence the problem today in the 21st century is muslim depravity.

It's got sweet fanny adams to do with Hinduism Buddhism Judaism paganism Christianity whatever, it's solely a muslim problem caused by the evil in the qur'an.

They have to renounce the commands from allah as being evil.

Don't want to answer the question, eh?

I can see why, Moses. Jews and Christians will never renounce the violent parts of their holy book. The very point of the Torah is to show the Jews', God's chosen people, struggle with God. Much of it reads as an instruction manual on taking down Gentiles, and all of it is dictated by God to His various prophets, there is no doubt on that point whatsoever. Jewish law was dictated by Jehova Himself, from behind a burning bush.

Muhammed was a prophet, all too human and far from being God. It was Christianity who put their prophet into the God category. Muslims aren't allowed to have images of Muhammed to prevent deification of him.

64 percent of the Quran is not devoted to killing non-believers, dear. Most of your Muslim hate site quotes are about Allah's punishments in the afterlife. By contrast, much of the Old Testament is about how to treat blasphemers, adulterers and false idol worshippers in this life. Stoning, burning, cutting of the limbs. You know this, you're Moses.

So try again, dear. Why don't Jews and Christians renounce the parts of the Bible they clearly disagree with?

Try to be honest, dear. No porkies, please.

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Reply #106 - Mar 15^th, 2019 at 11:33pm

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Islamic State Muslimas throw stones at reporter, “we’re the woman of the Islamic State, Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019

[ISLAM is peace]

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France: Court rejects “Muslim Martin Luther” Tariq Ramadan’s request that rape charges against him be dropped
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019
"French court rejects request to drop rape charges against Islamic scholar Ramadan,"

[another innocent moslem.    a moslem wouldn't rape a fly!]

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Netherlands: Converts to Christianity from Islam get threats “every single day”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019

[ISLAM is peace. and ISLAM is tolerance.]

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"People who worship anything other than Allah are infidels and it is permitted to kill them."
- moslem clerics, in Indonesia, teaching moslem children

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"
Koran 4.88, 89

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Iran: Videos show violent assaults on women for not wearing hijab
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019

[coz, "ISLAM is the most feminist religion" - Yassmin Abdel-Magied]

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As Iran imprisons women for not wearing hijab, UN names it to women’s rights committee
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019

[Iran joins women’s rights committee.
coz, "ISLAM is the most feminist religion" - Yassmin Abdel-Magied]

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Australia: ISIS bride who called for violence against non-Muslims wants to return, says “we have human rights”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 14, 2019

[we moslems have human rights.    coz, we moslems are the humans.
AND killing the enemies of Allah, ALL OF THEM, is not genocide.
coz, disbeliever = = sub-human. TRUE!]

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"...Harbi is the inhabitant of the DAR AL-HARB [house of war].
A harbi has no rights, NOT EVEN THE RIGHT TO LIVE....."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi
Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war"

disbeliever = = 'the worst of creatures' - WWW search
Koran 98.6
disbeliever = = 'the vilest of animals' - WWW search
Koran 8.55
sub-humans

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Germany: Muslim migrant crimes concealed to prevent “prejudice”
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 14, 2019
"Authorities in a district of rural Germany covered up a long list list of asylum seeker crimes including rape, assault, and child sex abuse so as not to stir up prejudice."

[coz, to accuse a moslem of wrongdoing, is a crime, aka, 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA'.]

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UK: Muslim migrant parents sending their sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime in Sadiq Khan’s London
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 14, 2019

[the UK, is becoming a LAWLESS STATE, without ISLAMIC law.    ....its all going according to the moslem plan.]

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #107 - Mar 16^th, 2019 at 9:33am

Karnal wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

64 percent of the Quran is not devoted to killing non-believers, dear. Most of your Muslim hate site quotes are about Allah's punishments in the afterlife.

Moses knows this, so he chooses his words carefully. Its not exactly "killing non-believers" but " the muslim supremacist oppression of the non believer." - I reckon he figures that gives him a bit of wriggle room Wink

But I think we can safely assume moses will steer clear of all the verses that unambiguously tell Muhammad and muslims that judgment on matters of disbelief are strictly the domain of their creator, and we are but warners and messengers. It would be a bit hard to maintain his tricky ambiguity while acknowledging this little inconvenient fact Wink

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #108 - Mar 16^th, 2019 at 2:54pm

The book is flawed as it causes islamic terorism.

No matter how many lies are told by the leftards and the muslims, facts are facts.

muslims right now are the worlds greatest terror threat,

muslims kill 100's of thousands of innocent children with starvation and trauma from refugee flight,

muslims rape little children with their forced child marriage, bacha bazi and bacha bereesh,

muslims are the worlds refugee problem with millions of them fleeing each other around the globe and expecting the hated kufir to feed and shelter them,

Q/. If the qur'an is a perfect book, why do muslims have the above problems?

A/. because the book is a load of imperfect rubbish, which has led muslims through the last 1400 odd years to where they are now today.

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Reply #109 - Mar 16^th, 2019 at 3:48pm

The book is flawed as it causes Christian terorism.

No matter how many lies are told by the Rightards and the Christians, facts are facts.

Christians right now are the worlds greatest terror threat,

Christians kill 100's of thousands of innocent children with starvation and trauma from refugee flight, and bombs and missiles dropped from Drone aircraft.

Christian clergy rape little children with their molestation of children.

Christians are the worlds makers of refugee problems with millions of people fleeing each other around the globe and expecting the secular west to feed and shelter them,

Q/. If the Bible is a perfect book, why do Christians create the above problems?

A/. because the book is a load of imperfect rubbish, which has led Christians through the last 2019 odd years to where they are now today. Roll Eyes

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #110 - Mar 16^th, 2019 at 5:17pm

moses wrote on Mar 16^th, 2019 at 2:54pm:

Still don't want to answer the question?

No worries, Moses. You now go down as a heinous spineless apologist who defends the most despicable crimes of humanity.

Google: taqiyya.

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Reply #111 - Mar 17^th, 2019 at 1:01pm

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Nigeria: Muslim suicide bombers try to enter church, are stopped, blow themselves up outside the church building
By Robert Spencer on Mar 15, 2019

[oh! i wonder why moslems in Nigeria would want to attack and to kill those who are not moslems ????
[moslems in Nigeria, are approx. 50% of population, wiki]

hmmm, i just don't know.
it is a mystery to me.
and oh! i wonder why we do not hear moslem communities living in countries like Australia lift their voices to vigourously condemn these attacks [by moslems in nations like Nigeria], against those who are not moslems ????
hmmm, i just don't know.
it is a mystery to me.

BUT PERHAPS, it is because moslems living in countries like Australia KNOW, that ISLAMIC religious doctrine encourages such attacks against non-moslems!]

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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Nigeria: Muslims murder over 20 Christians with machetes and gunfire
By Robert Spencer on Mar 15, 2019
"Fulani Militants" "have “a deliberate plan to ‘wipe out certain communities,” chief among them being the Christians of Nigeria"

[AGAIN....
oh! i wonder why moslems in Nigeria would want to attack and to kill those who are not moslems ????
[moslems in Nigeria, are approx. 50% of population, wiki]

hmmm, i just don't know.
it is a mystery to me.
and oh! i wonder why we do not hear moslem communities living in countries like Australia lift their voices to vigourously condemn these attacks [by moslems in nations like Nigeria], against those who are not moslems ????
hmmm, i just don't know.
it is a mystery to me.

BUT PERHAPS, it is because moslems living in countries like Australia KNOW, that ISLAMIC religious doctrine encourages such attacks against non-moslems!]

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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Hamas-linked CAIR exploits New Zealand massacre to try to shut down opposition to jihad terror
By Robert Spencer on Mar 15, 2019
BECAUSE.... "it is “bigotry” and “racism” to oppose jihad terror".

[and anyone who would point an accusing finger, at the clear ISLAMIC mainstream religious doctrine [sourced from the Koran!] which encourages violent attacks against non-moslems, is always an ISLAM-O-PHOBE or a 'racist' !
n.b.
to condemn ISLAM, for plainly ecouraging violent attacks against non-moslems, is HATE SPEECH.
but if the Koran plainly encourges attacks by moslems, against non-moslems, is -NOT- HATE SPEECH.]

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China shields leader of Pakistani jihadi terror group from being listed as “global terrorist” by UN Security Council
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 15, 2019 12:00 pm
"China is allied with Pakistan, which is a state sponsor of jihad terror."

[Q. why so ? A. coz there is money and influence in it, for China. plain and simple.
China is a whore, just like all Western nations.]

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New Zealand murders: repercussions and perspective
By Robert Spencer on Mar 15, 2019 11:41 am
"The savage and heinous terrorist attacks on the mosques in New Zealand are being and will be used to try to silence all criticism of jihad terror...."

[yes, it will. and yet, this violent attack upon moslems, in NZ, will be viewed by many moslems, as a wonderful opportunity, to promote their opposition to 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA'. count upon it!]

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Canadian Islamic Circle posts book on website featuring “prophecy” about Jews being slaughtered by Muslims
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 15, 2019

[n.b. this Canadian ISLAMIC community, in promoting this religious book, is merely acknowledging what had been revealed to the believers [moslems], by Allah.
and for non-moslems to bring attention to the 'celebration' of this message from Allah, by moslems, is simply another instance of 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA', by those who hate moslems.
because, this Canadian ISLAMIC community acknowledging a sacred “prophecy”, about Jews being slaughtered by moslems, can never be characterised as being HATE SPEECH. because that would be to cast a slur upon all moslems, everywhere ! ]

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New Mexico jihad compound members charged with “conspiring to attack and kill officers and employees of the US”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 15, 2019

[THE ALLEGATION AGAINST THESE MOSLEMS, is that they built a compound inside the U.S., in the New Mexico desert, in order to train moslem children to become school massacre shooters, within the U.S.
ISLAM is peace.]

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #112 - Mar 17^th, 2019 at 2:09pm

the other liar karnal wrote:
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all of it is dictated by God to His various prophets, there is no doubt on that point whatsoever. Jewish law was dictated by Jehova Himself, from behind a burning bush.

Absolute crap.

The O.T. contains both law and commandments.

Commandments were accepted as being given by God himself to Moses.

Law know as Judaic / Mosaic law was composed by Moses himself.

The very first line in Dueteronomy makes this clear.

Dueteronomy 1:1 These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.

The law was authored by Moses

The question is why do you people continuously lie in order to try and save islam from being held accountable for the terrorism it engenders?

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Reply #113 - Mar 17^th, 2019 at 7:27pm

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Incitement to genocide of Jews is widespread inside mosques in the US
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 16, 2019
"Exactly what happened in the mosques in France 15 years ago is happening today in the U.S. “Incitement to genocide of Jews widespread inside US mosques,” "

[surely not!
ISLAM is peace.

the Jewish people are the principle target of 'expressed' moslem hatred, at this time.

WWW search.... "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."
"Such graffiti can sometimes be found in Muslim neighborhoods in the Middle East."
i.e. first the little satan, then the great satan. ]

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Video: David Wood and Robert Spencer on the New Zealand massacre and how it is being exploited
By Robert Spencer on Mar 16, 2019 02:00 pm
"Yesterday evening David Wood and I discussed the New Zealand massacre and the subsequent attempts to defame and silence those who oppose jihad terror."

[jihad terror ?
NO! ISLAM is peace. ISLAM is peace. a thousand times, ISLAM is peace. ]

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Saudi King calls for “combating hate speech and terrorism that is not condoned by religions”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 16, 2019 01:00 pm
"Apparently terrorism that is condoned by religions is fine with him, as in “strike terror in the enemies of Allah”
(Qur’an 8:60)."

[ISLAM is peace. ]

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International Union for Muslim Scholars “calls on non-Muslim countries to ban the spread of hatred against Islam”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 16, 2019 12:00 pm
"Since analysis of the motivating ideology behind jihad terror is routinely smeared as “hatred of Islam and Muslims,” this will likely outlaw all such analysis and make opposition to jihad teror effectively impossible."

[anyone who 'scrutinises' or criticises ISLAMIC teachings and the religion of ISLAM, are commonly accused, by moslems, of HATE SPEECH.
coz, 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA' is a crime against Allah.
but the many, many verses of the holy Koran, which command moslems to hate, to fight and to kill non-moslems,
are not HATE SPEECH !!!

ask Bill Shorten, and Scot Morrison, and all of the 'award winning' investigative journalists at the ABC.]

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

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Nigeria: Muslims murder 85 people, torch 100 homes, villagers “living in palpable fear”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 16, 2019 11:00 am
"Will the Islamophobia never end? “Herdsmen Kill 85 People in Kaduna Communities,” by John Shiklam, This Day, March 13, 2019: No fewer than 85 people have been killed....by gunmen suspected to be Fulani herdsmen." [i.e. moslems]

[ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant faith.]

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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3,000 Yazidi sex slaves missing and feared dead
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 16, 2019
[in Iraq and Syria...] "3000 Yazidi sex slaves are lost and feared dead.
This story should be in headlines everywhere.
Is it?
Are the lives of Yazidi girls and women so valueless in the eyes of the Western media?"

[ISLAM is peace. ]

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #114 - Mar 18^th, 2019 at 6:11pm

moses wrote on Mar 17^th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

the other liar karnal wrote:
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all of it is dictated by God to His various prophets, there is no doubt on that point whatsoever. Jewish law was dictated by Jehova Himself, from behind a burning bush.

You must have missed the book of Exodus, dear, spoken by Yehovah in the first person:

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20 And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

You know the rest.

Deuteronomy makes it clear that Moses only passed on the message. Exodus describes how:

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16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled. 17 Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. 18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain[b] trembled violently. 19 As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the voice of God answered him.[c]

20 The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up 21 and the Lord said to him, “Go down and warn the people so they do not force their way through to see the Lord and many of them perish. 22 Even the priests, who approach the Lord, must consecrate themselves, or the Lord will break out against them.”

23 Moses said to the Lord, “The people cannot come up Mount Sinai, because you yourself warned us, ‘Put limits around the mountain and set it apart as holy.’”

24 The Lord replied, “Go down and bring Aaron up with you. But the priests and the people must not force their way through to come up to the Lord, or he will break out against them.”

25 So Moses went down to the people and told them.

The whole point of Jewish law is that it comes from God, dear. You have this marvellous ability to rejig the foundations of your own religious tradition.

God knows what you'd do with the religious beliefs of others.

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Reply #115 - Mar 18^th, 2019 at 10:33pm

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Nigeria: Muslims kill 120 Christians, destroy 140 homes in the last two weeks
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019
"120 people killed, 140 homes destroyed by Nigeria Fulani since February,"
[ < ----- this is not nearly as serious an outrage as Christchurch though. otherwise we would have seen it reported on our evening TV news.]

[and, oh! i wonder why moslems in Nigeria would want to attack and to kill those who are not moslems ????
[moslems in Nigeria, are approx. 50% of population, wiki]

and, extremist views [like those of Fraser Anning, critical of the militancy of ISLAM] must be opposed.
but these views, which are 'revered inspiration', to moslems, is ok. ----- >
and must never be scrutinised. ----- > ]

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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Nigeria: Muslims attack Christian village, destroy church
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019
"The international media only cares about these kinds of incidents when the victims are Muslims."

[Muslims destroy a Christian village/church.
in Christchurch ? never!
in NZ, ISLAM is peace.
moslems in Nigeria, are approx. 50% of population, wiki]

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

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Mozambique: Muslims murder 13 villagers, destroy over 120 houses, in quest to impose Sharia
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019
"No Muslims were killed, and so the international media will pay no attention."

[ISLAM is peace.]

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Corbyn: Manchester jihad massacre an “incident,” New Zealand white supremacist massacre a “terror attack”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019

[the MSM and politicians everywhere in the West, bend the knee, rather than confront the rising, and obvious ISLAMIC imperative - the militancy and supremacy of ISLAM.
ISLAM is peace.]

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Italy: Tourist falls off cliff when Muslim migrant slaps her during alleged sexual assault
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019

[it must have been a tragic accident.
ISLAM is peace.]

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NYU: Muslim students claim Chelsea Clinton responsible for New Zealand massacre because she criticized Ilhan Omar
By Robert Spencer on Mar 17, 2019

[yes, that message is hyperbole, but utterance, is intented to send the 'social signal' that every commentator should always seek to immediately scapegoat any person who is seen to not actively support the moslem 'public' narative, which is that ISLAM/moslems are tolerant, harmless, friendly, and beign.
n.b. anyone who is openly critical of the behaviour of an individual moslem or of a moslem community, can be said to be hostile to ISLAM, and to be 'waging war against Allah'. [see below] ]

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, "
Koran 5.33

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #116 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 11:46am

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UK: Labour MP slams establishment media for ignoring the slaughter of African Christians
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 19, 2019
" “British Labour MP Kate Hoey has condemned the mainstream media for ignoring the ‘slaughter’ of over 100 Christians in Nigeria by Muslim militants over the past three weeks.”
Hoey is correct.
“Her criticism comes after Western networks and publishers have given extensive coverage to the murder of 50 Muslim worshippers who were gunned down in....NZ."

[Q. are mainstream societies, in the West, blind to atrocities SHAMLESSLY committed by followers of ISLAM [unless those multiple murders are being committed in our midst] ?
Q. why so ?
Q. are mainstream societies, in the West, in this modern civilised age, inhabited by people who a God [if he exists] would love [for their righteousness] ? ]

Isaiah 1:17 Exodus 23:7 Leviticus 19:15 Deuteronomy 25:1 Jeremiah 22:3 KJV

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New Zealand teen faces 14-year jail term for sharing massacre video
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 19, 2019
"There is no legal superiority of Muslims over infidels in Western law. But...."

[well, the existence of such a video will offend the moslem community. so it must not be accessible, ANYWHERE.
and such material would certainly offend N.Z. LEFTISTS !!]

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Muslim “journalist” in UK blames Geert Wilders for Utrecht jihad massacre
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019
"Are you getting the new rules?
When non-Muslims murder Muslims, it’s because of “Islamophobia.”
And when Muslims murder non-Muslims, it’s because of “Islamophobia.”
In all cases, the Infidels, not the Muslims, are to blame...."

[i.e. 'if only all of the ISLAM-O-PHOBES would stop 'persecuting' us moslems, world peace would break out! honest! ']

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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Utrecht jihad murderer captured, had been arrested before for suspected links to the Islamic State, but was released
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019

[THE LOGIC, OF THE RULING ELITE [GOVERNMENTS] IN EUROPE; its OK 1/ to live in a European nation, and its OK 2/ to be a follower of ISLAM, and its OK 3/ to be a supporter of ISIS,
coz, we are confident that you are a peace-loving moslem, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T MURDERED ANYONE YET. !!!!!
ISLAM, is peace.]

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Nigeria: Muslims murder another 10 Christians, bringing death toll to 140 since February 10
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019
"Don’t expect to see anything about this ongoing jihad in the establishment media."

[ISLAM, is peace.]

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“Palestinians” distribute sweets to celebrate jihad murder of Israeli
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019

[ISLAM, is peace.]

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"Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." - UK moslem community leader [speaking behind 'closed doors']

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Dutch Prime Minister says Netherlands will “not yield to intolerance” after Utrecht jihad massacre
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019
"That means that the Netherlands is not going to do anything to address the problem of jihad activity within the country, or reconsider its policies of mass Muslim migration, since opposing jihad terror and Sharia oppression, as well as mass Muslim migration, is universally considered “intolerant.” "

[this response to ISLAMIC inspired, criminal violence in Europe, is awful, absurd, and insane, imo.

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Canada: Man under fire for “Islamophobic” 2-year-old video with 475 views that links Islam to violence
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019
"This is more of the effort to exploit the New Zealand massacre to shut down all criticism of Islam and all opposition to jihad terror."

[compling evidences that the religion of ISLAM, and the followers of ISLAM, are 'connected' to promoting violence and criminality, is increasing becoming a CRIME in itself.
this is an insane response to the ready identification, of ISLAM in the West, being 'connected' to promoting violence and criminality !!!
kill me now !!! [only kidding. don't try.] ]

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UN is seeking to criminalise criticism of religion
UN is seeking to criminalise criticism of ISLAM
UN Seeks to Criminalize Free Speech, Citing "Human Rights"
Can the UN ban criticism of Islam?

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Tlaib: “Islamophobia” is “still very present on both sides of the aisle”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019

[anyone today, who positively identifies the religion of ISLAM as a source of wrongdoing and illegality, is certain to labelled as a 'ISLAM-O-PHOBE'.]

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #117 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 11:03pm

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Australia: Muslims plotted jihad massacres to “defeat all the infidels,” prosecutor says “Islam not on trial here”
By Robert Spencer on Mar 19, 2019 03:08 pm
"Crown prosecutor Lincoln Crowley “said the acts planned by the men would have been ‘designed to demonstrate to the unbelievers the righteousness of their particular belief in Islam’, but added, ‘the religion of Islam is not on trial here.'”    Of course it isn’t."

n.b.
"Muslims plotted jihad massacres to “defeat all the infidels,” " - Crown prosecutor Lincoln Crowley sees no link to ISLAM!

[absurd Crown prosecutor.
the moslem community in Australia must be rubbing their hands together in glee.]

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Toronto: Muslim leaves suspicious packages at subway station on two successive days
By Robert Spencer on Mar 19, 2019

[even if these packages in subway station are not bombs, this calculated behaviour can be extremely disruptive to normal travel in this subway area, and costly to monitor and check.
every moslem is a moslem.
every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.
'We are supporters of ISLAM, and we're here to help you infidels.'
'And thank you, for allowing us moslems, to come to your countries, as a sanctuary.' ]

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we will destroy your miserable house, muslims

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"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."

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Man detained at border meets Muslims claiming to be “political refugees” yet openly supporting jihad terror groups
By Robert Spencer on Mar 19, 2019
"....he said he was detained alongside around 100 other men, many of whom vowed [they were] “political refugees” claiming asylum    all the while openly voicing support for brutal terrorist outfits and insurgencies including ISIS, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab and the Taliban."

[nothing to worry about here.DON'T BUILD THAT WALL!]

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren compares “white nationalism” to “ISIS and Al-Qaeda”
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 19, 2019

[why not to Evangelical Christians too Elizabeth ?
'good', and 'evil', do not exist. isn't that right Elizabeth ? ]

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Minnesota: Charges dropped against Christian pastor arrested at Mall of America for talking with Muslims
By Robert Spencer on Mar 18, 2019

[in the U.S.A, UK, Europe, Australia, NZ,    it is grossly offensive to the ears of a moslem [and ISLAMIC law makes it 100% illegal], to hear from a Christian street preacher that there may be another way to gain God's favour,
other than choosing to murder people, who do not believe what you [moslems] believe !!! ]

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #118 - Mar 22^nd, 2019 at 8:12am

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Erdogan: If Australians with anti-Islam views come to Turkey, we will send them back in caskets
By Robert Spencer on Mar 20, 2019
" “Erdogan’s Monstrous Death Threats to Australians,” by Tim Wilms, The Unshackled, March 20, 2019: Turkey’s Islamist dictator President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has responded to the fact the Christchurch mosque shooter was Australian to threaten Australians visiting Turkey with death if they..."

[the just revenge is coming, against Australians.
mark those words.]

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Italy: Muslim migrant bus driver rams bus full of children into cars on highway, sets it on fire
By Robert Spencer on Mar 20, 2019
"Bring in people who were raised in a culture of violence [and revenge - Yadda], you’re going to get this."

[this was a holy act.
this is viewed by many moslems, as the 'good works', of a follower, towards ISLAM.
killing the children of those who reject Allah, is 'good works'.]

Koran 2.98 Koran 47.8-11

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"Destroy Allah's enemies wherever you have them" Doku Umarov
"there are no more civilian objects or civilian population" Doku Umarov

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"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.
Only between Muslims and unbelievers.
And the life of an unbeliever has no value.
It has no sanctity."
April 19, 2004 old link... http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html

n.b.

If this is HATE SPEECH,
...it is YOUR KNOWLEDGE, of the source of this HATE SPEECH, which ISLAMISTS want to prevent, through a ban on criticism of ISLAM. !!!

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Netherlands: Friend says Utrecht jihadi “very religious,” three other Muslims arrested in connection to the massacre
By Robert Spencer on Mar 20, 2019

[his sister transgressed ISLAMIC law.
she got, only what she deserved. DEATH.
and so did the infidels who tried to intervene, on her behalf!
this is what we bring, when we bring the followers of ISLAM.
we bring the strictures of ISLAM, to our society.
"ISLAMIC law is superior."]

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Sweden: Serious crimes being committed by returning Islamic State jihadists, cops don’t know where many of them are
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 20, 2019
"Shame on any political leader and authority who does not deal with these facts."

[surely they now realise their mistake, and just 'want to come home'.
"they are not dangerous" "they are like us" moslems. ]

IMAGE.....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/refugee-welcome-not-danger...

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Erdogan shows footage of New Zealand massacre while New Zealand jails youth for posting it
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 20, 2019
"New Zealand ignores its mosque problem: al Noor mosque was linked to al Qaeda operatives who were killed in a drone attack in Yemen in 2014." !!!!!!

[Erdogan, as any good ISLAMIST leader will do, is 'playing' to his own religious 'constituency'.
if some moslems, somewhere, should decide to take justified revenge upon the infidels, all the better!
and Erdogan understands, 100%, what he may be unleashing.]

Quote:

May 23, 2007
Turkish PM Erdogan in Speech During Term As Istanbul Mayor Attacks Turkey's Constitution, Describing it As 'A Huge Lie':
'Sovereignty Belongs Unconditionally and Always To Allah';
'One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular'

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD159607

n.b.

Again, and again, the moslem keeps telling us, how he views the world, and how he views disbelievers.
But are we PAYING ATTENTION yet ?

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Italy: Muslim father tries to run over daughter for being too Westernized
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 20, 2019
"El Mustafa Hayan was arrested on charges of attempted murder."

[100% legal, in ISLAMIC law. TRUE, 100% !!!!!

this is what we bring, when we bring the followers of ISLAM.
we bring the strictures of ISLAM, to our society.
"ISLAMIC law is superior."]

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"British girl kidnapped by Saudi father: "I told [the Saudi police] he was keeping me there against my will and all they said was, 'He's your father, if he wants he can kill you'."

Quote:

....ISLAMIC law specifically gives moslem men, the right to kill their children [and grandchildren].
[An ISLAMIC source is cited below]....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338868086/4#4
and, "ISLAMIC law is superior."

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Netherlands: Utrecht jihad mass murderer left note saying he acted in the name of Allah
By Robert Spencer on Mar 20, 2019
"Cue the avalanche of establishment media articles explaining that this had nothing to do with Islam."

[ISLAM is peace.
- MSM
"Oh look! Flying pigs!"
- MSM ]

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The Islamic State had an ambassador to Turkey
By Robert Spencer on Mar 20, 2019

[Erdogan, the leader of the Turkey, ally of Russia, and member of NATO.
and the West's loyal moslem ally.
/sarc off ]

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If you care, PAY ATTENTION, to what they say
Reply #119 - Mar 22^nd, 2019 at 9:14pm

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New Zealand’s Prime Minister dons hijab, orders national broadcast of Islamic call to prayer
By Robert Spencer on Mar 21, 2019

[i witnessed tonight on a TV news report, a hijab clad Jacinda Ardern, declaring that New Zealand is one nation, undivided.
Q. is NZ now 'a moslem nation' ?
and will Zealand’s Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, now 'cave' to the demands of the moslem community in NZ, and seek to make it a criminal offence [just as ISLAMIC law mandates], to reveal publicly, openly, any information which shows ISLAM in a 'bad light' ?
e.g. how about the command in many verses in the Koran, to fight and kill disbelievers ???
are quoting such verses going to be VERBOTTEN, in NZ ?

if yes, then 'PLEASE EXPLAIN', your thinking, Jacinda Ardern ]

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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UK: Muslim migrant blames “immorality” in Newcastle for his violent 20-minute sexual assault on a “vulnerable” man
By Robert Spencer on Mar 21, 2019
"It’s always someone else’s fault."

[when a moslem commits some crime [by our laws], and comes to court, the moslem will invariably claim he is the victim, and that he did nothing wrong.]

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

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Pakistan: Muslim student stabs professor to death over “anti-Islam” remarks
By Robert Spencer on Mar 21, 2019
"Khateeb Hussain is likely to be celebrated as a hero in Pakistan...."

[in ISLAMIC law, it is a capital crime [blasphemy] to ever criticise ANY aspect of ISLAM.]

'THE STRICTURES OF THEIR FAITH'
"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.....
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."
Koran 5.101, 102
"We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed..........they ['believers'] can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction."
Koran 4.64, 65

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New Mexico Muslims who plotted jihad massacres linked to CAIR and Democrats
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 21, 2019

[THE ALLEGATION AGAINST THESE MOSLEMS, is that they built a compound inside the U.S., in the New Mexico desert, in order to train moslem children to become school massacre shooters, within the U.S.
ISLAM is peace - MSM]

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Sweden: Shia Muslims fearful of returning Islamic State jihadis
By Christine Douglass-Williams on Mar 21, 2019

[ISLAM is peace - MSM
....unless you are the 'wrong kind of moslem'. the Sunni/Shia divide.]

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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