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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Shorten To Make Election A Referendum On Wages Reply #30 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:02pm lee wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 4:34pm: You do underdtand the difference between rare and non-existent? yes. Do you realise that you're the only one to claim anyone said it was non existent?
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Re: Shorten To Make Election A Referendum On Wages
Reply #31 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:09pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:02pm:

Do you realise that you're the only one to claim anyone said it was non existent?

Poor petal.

lee wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 4:00pm:

Or alternatively name one where giving all the money from the rich to the poor has alleviated poverty.

John Smith wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 4:02pm:

Norway

So Norway hasn't alleviated poverty, it still exists. It hasn't lightened the burden by relieving the rich of their riches.

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Reply #32 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:15pm

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:55pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:38pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 8:37am:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

cods wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:28am:

what about US the people who do not get wages?

we get left behind further..

wages got up so does everything consumers buy and that includes...people not on wages.. Angry

I think its called trickle down..

Trickle down is a lie. You should know that by now.

It was just a throw away line invented by a comedian in the '40s.

That is quite blatant handwaving. It doesn't matter what you call it - horse and sparrow theory, supply side economics - the theory is the same. By any name, it is a lie.

Horseshit. Find me one decent economic textbook or peer reviewed paper that even pays the slightest attention to these comedic words. Just one will do.

Horseshit yourself. It's in the Oxford Dictionary: trickle down. Limiting it to the narrow scope you've chosen is irrelevant because the same concept can have different names. Furthermore, whining about the name does not refute the argument that the concept is a lie.

All a dictionary does is spell out the meaning of words. The technical veracity of the word is of no consequence to Mr Oxford. There is no such thing as trickle down, conceptually or otherwise. It is reserved for comedians and commentators that don't know what they're waffling about.

I'll say this again: Whining about the name does not refute the argument that the concept is a lie.

If you disagree with the assertion that it is a lie, name one country where giving money to the rich has eradicated poverty. Just one will do.

Are there any that have eradicated poverty by giving the poor truckloads of money. Just one will do.

The top decile pays 50% of the taxes in this country. Giving freebies to the rich my arse.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Re: Shorten To Make Election A Referendum On Wages
Reply #33 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:26pm

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:15pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:55pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:38pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 8:37am:

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

cods wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:28am:

what about US the people who do not get wages?

we get left behind further..

wages got up so does everything consumers buy and that includes...people not on wages.. Angry

I think its called trickle down..

Trickle down is a lie. You should know that by now.

It was just a throw away line invented by a comedian in the '40s.

That is quite blatant handwaving. It doesn't matter what you call it - horse and sparrow theory, supply side economics - the theory is the same. By any name, it is a lie.

Horseshit. Find me one decent economic textbook or peer reviewed paper that even pays the slightest attention to these comedic words. Just one will do.

Horseshit yourself. It's in the Oxford Dictionary: trickle down. Limiting it to the narrow scope you've chosen is irrelevant because the same concept can have different names. Furthermore, whining about the name does not refute the argument that the concept is a lie.

All a dictionary does is spell out the meaning of words. The technical veracity of the word is of no consequence to Mr Oxford. There is no such thing as trickle down, conceptually or otherwise. It is reserved for comedians and commentators that don't know what they're waffling about.

I'll say this again: Whining about the name does not refute the argument that the concept is a lie.

If you disagree with the assertion that it is a lie, name one country where giving money to the rich has eradicated poverty. Just one will do.

Are there any that have eradicated poverty by giving the poor truckloads of money. Just one will do.

Your refusal to answer is eloquent.

No country has ever tried to eradicate poverty. Not one. The rich won't allow it because they prefer to keep poverty in place as a threat.

crocodile wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:15pm:

The top decile pays 50% of the taxes in this country. Giving freebies to the rich my arse.

Diddums. The top decile owns more than 50% of the wealth. They're undertaxed because their share of unearned wealth is growing. That means everyone else has to make do with less because total wealth is finite.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Re: Shorten To Make Election A Referendum On Wages
Reply #34 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:44pm

Bam wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 6:26pm: