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Reply #15 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 4:10pm
 
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but it's more dramatic to focus on middle eastern women and the deprivations they suffer


Or the threat the entirety of their lives (islam), poses to the world in general.

We have all sorts of troubles I agree, so why add to them with a known source of problems (islam), which by the way is now a global threat?
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Reply #16 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 4:16pm
 
Or the threat the entirety of their lives (Christianity), poses to the world in general.

We have all sorts of troubles I agree, so why add to them with a known source of problems (Chrisitianity), which by the way is now a global threat, Mmmm?
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Reply #17 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 4:28pm
 
From the sacred infallible words of allah:

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qur'an 24.33:And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.


Well you know you really shouldn't force them, but if you do force them well allah is forgiving

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qur'an 4.34: Men are the maintainers of women because allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely allah is high, great.


if she plays up just give her a touch up

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qur’an 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”


if she is a bit flamboyant just lock her up until she dies

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qur’an 4:43 “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.”


Well that's nice dirt is cleaner than a woman.

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qur’an 24:1 “(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.”


just get a stick and give her the minimum of 100 stripes

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qur’an 24:6 “And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by allah that he is the one speaking the truth.”


muslim mens testimony is worth 4 times more than a women.

It's part and parcel of the doctrine of death.

Women are inferior and are to be treated as such.
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Reply #18 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:21pm
 
Mmmm, lets see what people are saying about Christianity and it's inbuilt misogyny, hey, Moses?

Christians must face it: the Bible is hugely misogynistic

Holy Misogyny

The Marginalization of Women: A Biblical Value We Don’t Like to Talk About

Misogyny and Insults to Women in the Bible (New Testament)

Paul the Apostle and women

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like you have it wrong.  You keep on attacking Islam and refuse to answer the real questions about your own religion.  Funny that, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Modern Muslim treatment of women
Reply #19 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat them female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.

Have you converted to Islam already, Bwian?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?


Have you converted to humanity yet, Soren?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?

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Is Islam your idea of humanity, Bwian?  You live Islamically?
Convert then. Or else face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace.  Straddling the barbed wire fence between incompatible cultures must have annihilated your balls, Bwian, and we can see evidence of that every time you post. Your balls and backbone have been eradicated by your saddling of the barbed wire fence for decades, Bwian.
You could get a gig as the falsetto in any choir.






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Reply #20 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat them female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.

Have you converted to Islam already, Bwian?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?


Have you converted to humanity yet, Soren?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is Islam your idea of humanity, Bwian?  You live Islamically?
Convert then. Or else face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace.  Straddling the barbed wire fence between incompatible cultures must have annihilated your balls, Bwian, and we can see evidence of that every time you post. Your balls and backbone have been eradicated by your saddling of the barbed wire fence for decades, Bwian.
You could get a gig as the falsetto in any choir.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another fail mark it seems.  You have refused to answer the question, a simple one, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, and you've reverted to your normal behaviour with your attempt to insult me.   Poor, poor, you, we now know you're not a member of the Human Race - Homo Sapien Sapiens, Soren.  How do you manage to exist among the teeming mass of humanity, all 'round you, with people caring for other people, ignoring your Islamophobic diatribes, your Xenophobia, your outright Racism?   Do, don't bother answering that!  We know how you manage, hiding in your mother's basement right, in your dungeon, lit by the flicking computer screen.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Modern Muslim treatment of women
Reply #21 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 8:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat them female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.

Have you converted to Islam already, Bwian?


If not - why not?

If yes - why?


Have you converted to humanity yet, Soren?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is Islam your idea of humanity, Bwian?  You live Islamically?
Convert then. Or else face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace.  Straddling the barbed wire fence between incompatible cultures must have annihilated your balls, Bwian, and we can see evidence of that every time you post. Your balls and backbone have been eradicated by your saddling of the barbed wire fence for decades, Bwian.
You could get a gig as the falsetto in any choir.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another fail mark it seems.  You have refused to answer the question, a simple one, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,

Did you answer my question preceding yours, frayed and frazzled nobsocket?

No.

Off you buzz then, pissy old neurotic aunty.




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Re: Modern Muslim treatment of women
Reply #22 - Mar 11th, 2019 at 10:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 8:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat them female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.

Have you converted to Islam already, Bwian?


If not - why not?

If yes - why?


Have you converted to humanity yet, Soren?

If not - why not?

If yes - why?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is Islam your idea of humanity, Bwian?  You live Islamically?
Convert then. Or else face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace.  Straddling the barbed wire fence between incompatible cultures must have annihilated your balls, Bwian, and we can see evidence of that every time you post. Your balls and backbone have been eradicated by your saddling of the barbed wire fence for decades, Bwian.
You could get a gig as the falsetto in any choir.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another fail mark it seems.  You have refused to answer the question, a simple one, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,

Did you answer my question preceding yours, frayed and frazzled nobsocket?

No.

Off you buzz then, pissy old neurotic aunty.


I treated your question with the contempt it deserved, Soren, just as I treat nearly all your posts.   You are just contemptible for the most part.  You deserve to be taken out and publically ignored.  Run along, I can hear your nursemaid calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where you belong.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Modern Muslim treatment of women
Reply #23 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 11:10am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat their female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.


Good for her, but she's hardly representative of the average arab female muslim.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #24 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 10:30pm:
I treated your question with the contempt it deserved, Soren, just as I treat nearly all your posts.   You are just contemptible for the most part.  You deserve to be taken out and publically ignored.  Run along, I can hear your nursemaid calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where you belong.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Says the aunty with her very own 'spineless apologist' thread, running to dozens of pages with countless examples, not to mention the rich record of contempt for her across many other threads!!

Face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace, Bwian.  But facing facts is the last thing anyone can expect from you.
Go, roll your eyes and wet your bed. You'll feel comforted.

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Reply #25 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 7:38pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 10:30pm:
I treated your question with the contempt it deserved, Soren, just as I treat nearly all your posts.   You are just contemptible for the most part.  You deserve to be taken out and publically ignored.  Run along, I can hear your nursemaid calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where you belong.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Says the aunty with her very own 'spineless apologist' thread, running to dozens of pages with countless examples, not to mention the rich record of contempt for her across many other threads!!

Face the fact that Islam is a dreadful, oppressive and backward creed you are NOT prepared to embrace, Bwian.  But facing facts is the last thing anyone can expect from you.
Go, roll your eyes and wet your bed. You'll feel comforted.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You sound jealous, Soren.  What's the problem, no one else bothering to pay any attention to you?  Tsk, tsk, don't worry, your inner narcissist will survive.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:24pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat their female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.


Good for her, but she's hardly representative of the average arab female muslim.


Even Muslims think you are full of it Brian.
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Reply #28 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:24pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat their female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.


Good for her, but she's hardly representative of the average arab female muslim.


Even Muslims think you are full of it Brian.


How would you know, Freediver?  You've never talked to a Muslim in your entire life.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 9:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:39pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:24pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm:


Only to be warehoused in a palace/compound for the rest of her life and smile for the family photos.


That she was even allowed to attend Sandhurst tells us a lot, Karnal.  That her mother attended her graduation also suggests a lot.   Modern Muslims aren't that different to most (nominally) Christians in how they treat their female children.  Salma had her heart on serving as her father had in the military.  That wish was granted.


Good for her, but she's hardly representative of the average arab female muslim.


Even Muslims think you are full of it Brian.


How would you know, Freediver?  You've never talked to a Muslim in your entire life.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are OBJECTIVELY full of shite, Bwian. Are you accusing Muslims of being unable to perceive objective truths???  Very patronising of you Bwian. Bigoted and wacist. You are a deplorable, Bwian.



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