Australian Politics Forum - Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ? Reply #135 - Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 7:40pm: Question: "How does one physically polish a turd?" It takes practice. Repeat after me: "I prefer to translate it as inner struggle, not war".
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ? Reply #137 - Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:50pm It's shinier already. Now imagine some child in Morocco being forced to eat it.
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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #138 - Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:05pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Question:

"How does one physically polish a turd?"

It takes practice. Repeat after me: "I prefer to translate it as inner struggle, not war".

Repeat after me: "I prefer to ignore the effect of tribalism on religion."

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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #139 - Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:17pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Question:

"How does one physically polish a turd?"

It takes practice. Repeat after me: "I prefer to translate it as inner struggle, not war".

Repeat after me: "I prefer to ignore the effect of tribalism on religion."

Repeat after me: "Our never-ending war for Allah's cause, goes on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

"....because the Jihad against the infidel, will go on, and on, until the day of Judgement."

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"....on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

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This site collates reports, of many, many, acts of violence being committed by moslems, in the name of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #140 - Apr 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Question:

"How does one physically polish a turd?"

It takes practice. Repeat after me: "I prefer to translate it as inner struggle, not war".

Repeat after me: "I prefer to ignore the effect of tribalism on religion."

Repeat after me: "Our never-ending war for Allah's cause, goes on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

"....because the Jihad against the infidel, will go on, and on, until the day of Judgement."

IMAGE.....
https://cdn.opendemocracy.net/files/imagecache/wysiwyg_imageupload_lightbox_pres...

"....on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

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This site collates reports, of many, many, acts of violence being committed by moslems, in the name of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

So, if Islam had been founded by Caesar Augustus in Rome in 27BC, would it have had the same characteristics of Islam founded by Muhammad?

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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #141 - Apr 9^th, 2019 at 9:44pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:32am:

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 7:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

Sorry, I must have left that out.

Indonesia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Ahok is a good example.

So, literally no actual argument then. Thanks for confirming

This post is a good snapshot of about 2 months of your posting on this subject: one inane, meaningless line that says nothing at all but apparently passes for an "argument", followed by 2 or 3 paragraphs of ad-hom, attacking the person not the argument, and falsely complaining about being misrepresented.

Are you removing parts of my post to alter the meaning so you can pretend I have no argument?

I think this is the third time in this thread you have asked me what my argument is, then ignored most or all of my response.

FD I literally quoted you word for word. Its under the bit called "freediver wrote..." Wink

Here it is again:

"Indonesia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Ahok is a good example"

Thats it FD, thats your argument - all of it.

Ahok is not a good example, because you have made no connection whatsoever, no causal link between the case and Indonesian society being a "shithole of oppression". It is the only example you have ever come up with. And no, simply saying "there are others" without any elaboration doesn't count.

I think it comes down to 'it is because it is' and 'you are an apologist turd polisher if you think it isn't'. Anything else I missed? That of course is ignoring all the times you verballed me and hurled ad-homs. They don't count.

There were 4 paragraphs of argument in my response. You removed 3 of them and concluded I had no argument. This is typical. You have no response, so you pretend the words do not exist.

No worries. Let's ask.

FD, what exactly is your argument?

We'll wait and see. You can't be fairer than that, no?

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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #142 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 9:20am

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:32am:

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 7:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

Sorry, I must have left that out.

Indonesia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Ahok is a good example.

So, literally no actual argument then. Thanks for confirming

This post is a good snapshot of about 2 months of your posting on this subject: one inane, meaningless line that says nothing at all but apparently passes for an "argument", followed by 2 or 3 paragraphs of ad-hom, attacking the person not the argument, and falsely complaining about being misrepresented.

Are you removing parts of my post to alter the meaning so you can pretend I have no argument?

I think this is the third time in this thread you have asked me what my argument is, then ignored most or all of my response.

FD I literally quoted you word for word. Its under the bit called "freediver wrote..." Wink

Here it is again:

"Indonesia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Ahok is a good example"

Thats it FD, thats your argument - all of it.

Ahok is not a good example, because you have made no connection whatsoever, no causal link between the case and Indonesian society being a "shithole of oppression". It is the only example you have ever come up with. And no, simply saying "there are others" without any elaboration doesn't count.

I think it comes down to 'it is because it is' and 'you are an apologist turd polisher if you think it isn't'. Anything else I missed? That of course is ignoring all the times you verballed me and hurled ad-homs. They don't count.

There were 4 paragraphs of argument in my response. You removed 3 of them and concluded I had no argument. This is typical. You have no response, so you pretend the words do not exist.

3 paragraphs of hurling vitriol and baseless accusations at me and Islam is not an argument FD.

I was being extremely generous when I acknowledged that one line an "argument".

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96462	Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ? Reply #143 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 10:27am Now now, G, hold your horses. We've asked FD. Let's wait for him to come back and describe exactly what's in those 3 paragraphs you so shamelessly omitted.
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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #144 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 10:27am

Auggie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Question:

"How does one physically polish a turd?"

It takes practice. Repeat after me: "I prefer to translate it as inner struggle, not war".

Repeat after me: "I prefer to ignore the effect of tribalism on religion."

Repeat after me: "Our never-ending war for Allah's cause, goes on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

"....because the Jihad against the infidel, will go on, and on, until the day of Judgement."

IMAGE.....
https://cdn.opendemocracy.net/files/imagecache/wysiwyg_imageupload_lightbox_pres...

"....on and on, and on, and on, and on...."

------- >

This site collates reports, of many, many, acts of violence being committed by moslems, in the name of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

So, if Islam had been founded by Caesar Augustus in Rome in 27BC, would it have had the same characteristics of Islam founded by Muhammad?

Auggie,

Here is a hint;

ISLAM WAS NOT founded by Caesar Augustus in Rome in 27BC .

ISLAM was founded by an Arabian, in Arabia, whose principle motivation [in founding ISLAM],
was his jealousy of the Jewish people [because the Jewish religion claimed a direct connection to a God, who they claimed had spoken directly to them, and to their kings and prophets].

Vanity, pride, and envy, of others, was the reason, for the creation and 'birthing' of the religion of ISLAM.

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Auggie,

QUESTION;
What religion which was inspired by a divine God, would tell its followers it is OK to swear oaths [to make covenants with other persons], and to then say;
'But it is OK to change your mind, and to not honour your oath, because you no longer WANTED to do so.' ?

Quote:

"The Prophet said, "If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath."."

But you know that Auggie.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1516565029/22#22

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Auggie,

When did you convert ?

Do you now recognise, that that, it was a bad mistake ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?
Reply #145 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:14pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 9:20am: