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Reply #660 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:23am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:12am:
Many blessings,
I present the facts as and where I find them.


I'll accept your lack of contradiction. It's better than nothing.

Anyway, I'm not going to waste my time here on dinosaurs. See you in a few years.
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Reply #661 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:31pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:19am:
Let's just simplify. The fallacy of oversimplification occurs when we attempt to make something appear simpler by ignoring certain relevant complexities. .


You mean like batteries? Or like Australia and the Southern H?emisphere being a giant CO2 sink?

John_Taverner wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:19am:
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There is already evidence from satellite imagery that the tundra beyond is becoming greener and shrubbier. Many scientists expect the tree line to advance eventually, and some studies purport to show that this is already happening. Some models predict  that half the current tundra could be converted by 2100, though others say the process would be much slower. On the other hand, some studies assert the trees are actually retreating in areas, as heat dries forests, helping invasive insects and fires to destroy growing areas.


Oh a greening world due to CO2.  More cropland available. What is not to like?

"Some models predict"? You mean those models that have shown no predictive value? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

John_Taverner wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:19am:
Let's just ignore what researchers are saying and come to our own cut and pasted opinions.


And of course those pesky tree stumps that are still above the snowline. Wink

“All recovered tree specimens originate from exceptionally high elevations, about 600-700 m atop of modern treeline positions."

“Conservatively drawing on the latter figure and a summer temperature lapse rate of 0.6 °C per 100 m elevation (Laaksonen 1976), could a priori mean that summer temperatures were at least 4.2 °C warmer than present around 9,500 years before present. However, glacio-isostatic land uplift by at least 100 m since that time (Möller 1987; Påsse & Anderson 2005) implies that this figure has to be reduced to 3.6 °C higher than present-day levels, i.e. first decades of the 21st century. Evidently, this was the warmth peak of the Holocene, hitherto.”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324991910_Further_Details_on_Holocene_T...

You mean researchers like this? Or only those with which you agree? Wink

So let's see you don't like the CSIRO because they say the entire SH is a CO2 sink?
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Reply #662 - Mar 3rd, 2022 at 8:36am
 
Time to rename it Global Moisture?


The intellectual giant and dear leader of the Unions comes up with solution:

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Note: her head is pleasingly tilted to signal eternal concern.





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Reply #663 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:46am
 
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/14/world/antarctica-larsen-c-ice-shelf-atmospher...



Powerful 'rivers in the sky' could cause
Antarctic Peninsula's biggest ice shelf to collapse


By Angela Dewan, CNN

Updated 1459 GMT (2259 HKT) April 14, 2022


These conditions were observed during the collapse of two of the peninsula's ice shelves -- Larsen A and B -- in the summers of 1995 and 2002, respectively. And now, as the climate crisis is projected to warm the Earth further, the biggest remaining ice shelf, Larsen C, is also at risk of total collapse, the study says.

The authors of the study, published in the Nature journal Communications Earth & Environment, used algorithms, climate models and satellite observations to determine that 60% of the peninsula's calving events -- where an iceberg breaks off an ice shelf or glacier -- were triggered by atmospheric rivers between 2000 and 2020.



To put in perspective what a ice loss in Antarctica could mean for the world, Turner explained there are 60 meters -- nearly 200 feet -- of potential sea level rise if the whole continent's ice melted. Western Antarctica, the broader region around the peninsula, represents 6 meters (20 feet) of rise, which in itself would swallow entire islands and be catastrophic for millions of people living on coasts and beyond.
Most of the world's ice melt and sea level rise so far can be attributed to melting of the Greenland ice sheet in the Arctic.
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Reply #664 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 3:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:46am:
The authors of the study, published in the Nature journal Communications Earth & Environment, used algorithms, climate models and satellite observations to determine that 60% of the peninsula's calving events -- where an iceberg breaks off an ice shelf or glacier -- were triggered by atmospheric rivers between 2000 and 2020.


Ice shelves are floating ice. They will not raise sea levels.



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Reply #665 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:47pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 3:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:46am:
The authors of the study, published in the Nature journal Communications Earth & Environment, used algorithms, climate models and satellite observations to determine that 60% of the peninsula's calving events -- where an iceberg breaks off an ice shelf or glacier -- were triggered by atmospheric rivers between 2000 and 2020.


Ice shelves are floating ice. They will not raise sea levels.




Read the article -
land ice will follow the sea ice.
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Reply #666 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 5:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
Read the article -
land ice will follow the sea ice.



According to the algorithms and the models. Satellite data has no predictive power.
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Reply #667 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
Read the article -
land ice will follow the sea ice.


Which will spread the sea ice and lead to a greater ice coverage in the Antarctic during the Autumn to Spring period. Scientists probably have the ability to refreeze coastal sections of Antarctica that they do not want to see melted during the summer. And they can probably set up wind turbines to power machines to refreeze whatever coastal areas that they predicted would melt away.
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Reply #668 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:14pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
Read the article -
land ice will follow the sea ice.


Which will spread the sea ice and lead to a greater ice coverage in the Antarctic during the Autumn to Spring period.
Scientists probably have the ability to refreeze coastal sections of Antarctica
that they do not want to see melted during the summer. And they can probably set up wind turbines to power machines to refreeze whatever coastal areas that they predicted would melt away.



Have you been taking substances?
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Reply #669 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:28pm
 
It is wishful thinking that scientists would entertain the idea of preventing ice sheets from breaking up and floating away with far-fetched ideas of using covered freezers. But, why not entertain the possibility that we use future technology to achieve this?
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Reply #670 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:36pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
It is wishful thinking that scientists would entertain the idea of preventing ice sheets from breaking up and floating away with far-fetched ideas of using covered freezers. But, why not entertain the possibility that we use future technology to achieve this?



Did you know that the air outside a refrigerator gets
hotter in order for the air inside to get colder?
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Reply #671 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
It is wishful thinking that scientists would entertain the idea of preventing ice sheets from breaking up and floating away with far-fetched ideas of using covered freezers. But, why not entertain the possibility that we use future technology to achieve this?



Did you know that the air outside a refrigerator gets
hotter in order for the air inside to get colder?


And where does that hotter air go in a cold environment like Antarctica? Towards the atmosphere where it is quickly cooled and frozen and causes more snow and ice to fall. Win-win for Antarctica.
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Reply #673 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 7:30am
 
Does she not understand how she is undermining her argument by using a plane? And how much more pollution does she create by being driven about in vehicles. I doubt that she rides a bike or walks very far, with her enormous arse. How many beef cattle were slaughtered to feed her fat ass?
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Reply #674 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:36am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 6:50pm:




I thought that was bullshit but it's true -
does she really think that anyone wants to see her disgusting fat arse?


https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/04/11/climate-crusader-lizzo-poses-...

Pop star, Joe Biden Presidential campaign surrogate, and climate change hardliner Lizzo posed in a tiny thong, showing off her buttocks while boarding another private jet on Sunday.

Lizzo posted a video to her 12 million Instagram followers that showed her boarding a jet clad in an outfit that put her entire behind on display. The grammy-winner tweeted Monday about being in New York City to host Saturday Night Live.
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