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Reply #720 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:20pm
 
https://www.sott.net/article/420049-NASA-admits-climate-change-occurs-because-of...


NASA admits climate change occurs because of changes in Earth's solar orbit,
not because of SUVs and fossil fuels



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For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom.

It was the year 1958, to be precise, when NASA first observed that changes in the solar orbit of the earth, along with alterations to the earth's axial tilt, are both responsible for what climate scientists today have dubbed as "warming" (or "cooling," depending on their agenda). In no way, shape, or form are humans warming or cooling the planet by driving SUVs or eating beef, in other words.

But NASA has thus far failed to set the record straight, and has instead chosen to sit silently back and watch as liberals freak out about the world supposedly ending in 12 years because of too much livestock, or too many plastic straws.

In the year 2000, NASA did publish information on its Earth Observatory website about the Milankovitch Climate Theory, revealing that the planet is, in fact, changing due to extraneous factors that have absolutely nothing to do with human activity. But, again, this information has yet to go mainstream, some 19 years later, which is why deranged, climate-obsessed leftists have now begun to claim that we really only have 18 months left before the planet dies from an excess of carbon dioxide (CO2).

The truth, however, is much more along the lines of what Serbian astrophysicist Milutin Milankovitch, after whom the Milankovitch Climate Theory is named, proposed about how the seasonal and latitudinal variations of solar radiation that hit the earth in different ways, and at different times, have the greatest impact on earth's changing climate patterns.
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Reply #721 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:25pm
 
The Milankovitch Cycle has been turning down for 5000 years. That SHOULD mean the area north of 65°N is cooling. {Oops!} The area north of 65°N is the fastest warming region on the globe!

Guess the Milankovitch Cycle is not as strong as AGW. (Nor is a GSM by the way.)
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Reply #722 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm
 
We KNOW CO2 and other GHGs are warming the globe, BTW. We know from IR spectra observed from satellites:

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Reply #723 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:25pm:
The Milankovitch Cycle has been turning down for 5000 years. That SHOULD mean the area north of 65°N is cooling. {Oops!} The area north of 65°N is the fastest warming region on the globe!

Guess the Milankovitch Cycle is not as strong as AGW. (Nor is a GSM by the way.)




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which is why deranged, climate-obsessed leftists have now begun to claim that we really only have 18 months left before the planet dies from an excess of carbon dioxide (CO2).
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Reply #724 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 5:27pm
 
"The heat of summer 2003 in Western and Central Europe was claimed to be unprecedented since the Middle Ages on the basis of grape harvest data (GHD) and late wood maximum density (MXD) data from trees in the Alps. This paper shows that the authors of these studies overlooked the fact that the heat and drought in Switzerland in 1540 likely exceeded the amplitude of the previous hottest summer of 2003, because the persistent temperature and precipitation anomaly in that year, described in an abundant and coherent body of documentary evidence, severely affected the reliability of GHD and tree-rings as proxy-indicators for temperature estimates. Spring–summer (AMJJ) temperature anomalies of 4.7 ◦C to 6.8 ◦C being significantly higher than in 2003 were assessed for 1540 from a new long Swiss GHD series (1444 to 2011). During the climax of the heat wave in early August the grapes desiccated on the vine, which caused many vine-growers to interrupt or postpone the harvest despite full grape maturity until after the next spell of rain. Likewise, the leaves of many trees withered and fell to the ground under extreme drought stress as would usually be expected in late autumn. It remains to be determined by further research whether and how far this result obtained from local analyses can be spatially extrapolated. Based on the temperature estimates for Switzerland it is assumed from a great number of coherent qualitative documentary evidence about the outstanding heat drought in 1540 that AMJJ temperatures were likely more extreme in neighbouring regions of Western and Central Europe than in 2003. Considering the significance of soil moisture deficits for record breaking heat waves, these results still need to be validated with estimated seasonal precipitation. It is concluded that biological proxy data may not properly reveal record breaking heat and drought events. Such assessments thus need to be complemented with the critical study of contemporary evidence from documentary sources which provide coherent and detailed data about weather extremes and related impacts on human, ecological and social systems."

https://www.academia.edu/26112640/Climate_of_the_Past
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Reply #725 - Aug 14th, 2022 at 6:46pm
 
Global warming could have been a hoax?
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Reply #726 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 11:20am
 
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Reply #727 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 12:15pm
 
The globe has warmed since the LIA. Millions are cheered by that. Roll Eyes
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Reply #728 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 12:34pm
 
A sharper pic:

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Reply #729 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:06pm
 
I didn’t notice the source of Bobby’s article before:

sott.net

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Sott.net is a site that is associated with the Quantum Future Group, the new religious movement created by Arkadiusz Jadczyk and Laura Knight Jadczyk.

It's not necessarily a scam, but it's a highly unreliable source run by people who believe they talk to aliens.


https://www.quora.com/Is-sott-net-signs-of-the-times-a-scam-website-How-reliable...


people who believe they talk to aliens! LOL!

Let is get another opinion on dear old Sott:

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Overall, we rate Signs of the Times (SOTT) Right Biased and a strong Conspiracy and Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of false, unproven, or misleading information that cannot be verified or has been debunked.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/

Complete debunked garbage!
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Reply #730 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:10pm
 
No offence, Bobby, but this whole MRB is riddled with debunked junk science including from a conman and conspiracy theory garbage. This MRB is completely worthless. There is no real science in it except some articles I posted some of which I guess are deleted.

Scrap it all and start again I reckon
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Reply #731 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:11pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:10pm:
No offence, Bobby, but this whole MRB is riddled with debunked junk science including from a conman and conspiracy theory garbage. This MRB is completely worthless. There is no real science in it except some articles I posted some of which I guess are deleted.

Scrap it all and start again I reckon



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Reply #732 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:44pm
 
Sure:

1. 1850 it was found that water vapor, CO2 and NH3 absorbed infrared radiation. Names such as Eunice Foote and John Tyndal. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Newton_Foote and John Tyndal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall

2. In the late 1940s the US Air Force had two problems: its bombsight for its strategic bombers didn’t work and nor did heat seeking missiles. It was found IR emitted by the surface of the earth was to blame. Brief intro here: https://history.aip.org/climate/summary.htm

3. While various terrestrial temperature series existed in 1970 satellite measurements of weather and climate started. They were in close agreement with the terrestrial series. RSS is the best known of these. An average warming rate of 0.2°C per decade was found to exist.

Above I posted the IR spectrum at top of atmosphere. We see IR at the wavelengths of the main GHGs is below what we would expect if IR could escape freely to space. We can compare the moon and its huge diurnal temperature fluctuations to earth with its atmosphere with increasing amounts of GHGs.

I will leave you with a graph of the major terrestrial temperature series:


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Reply #733 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:49pm
 
Berkeley Earth Systems Team used raw, unhomogenised temperature readings BTW. Pretty minor difference eh?

As to rabbiting on about cold weather events “proving” an ice age (as if  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes ) I repost the BoM temperature distributions for maximum and minimum temperatures. Notice that cold events decrease in number after the 1950s while hot events increase in number and intensity—the distribution has not just moved to the hot side it is skewed to the hot side. Note the peaks of the high temperature distributions decrease slightly because of the marked skew to the hot side:


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Reply #734 - Aug 16th, 2022 at 2:50pm
 
OK, the above not the chart I was looking for but useful anyway.

Umm the chart I was looking for must be on the laptop, will post it later. It repays study tho I have posted it at least two times before.
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