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Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?
Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:04pm

Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?

Not an easy thing to do. Sad

"It's a hell of a thing killing a man. Take away all he's got ... and all he's ever gonna have."

Its easy, apparently, if your are a follower of ISLAM.....

WWW search....

muslim, we love death

WWW search....

why do muslims love death ?

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"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

- ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD

"......in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
[old LINKS, but the articles are kosher]

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I have called ISLAM a death cult, which makes the murdering of non-moslems lawful.

But many people, who are defenders of ISLAM, seem to disagree with me.

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WHAT THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH, MOHAMMED, SAID.....

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #1 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm Thanks Ringo, would you extend your criticism to armies, police etc?
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Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?
Reply #3 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:10pm

Wisdom word's.....

Proverbs 8:14
Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
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32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #4 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

And here is a data point for unfairly slandering an entire culture

Sure it is.

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I have called ISLAM a death cult, which makes the murdering of non-moslems lawful.

Now tell us all, how have i 'misrepresented' ISLAM ?

It's just WRONG, to suggest, that ISLAM, is a death cult.

Isn't it bojack ???

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A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

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AND......

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

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YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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Reply #5 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:33pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

And here is a data point for unfairly slandering an entire culture

bojack,

It is as though your eyes simply pass over these statements by moslems.

Not comprehending what those words mean ?

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Quote:

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

- ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD

"......in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
[old LINKS, but the articles are kosher]

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bojack,

If you cannot recognise the evil, in the teachings and doctrines of ISLAM, i suggest you are probably a little 'unhinged'.

You need to be careful.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1553633666/14#14
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Time and time again, we can see LEFTISTS [and many 'common' criminals], just ignore and overturn well founded precepts,
and they break laws, not considering what serious consequences, their actions will trigger.

And if they are apprehended, and brought to account,
they will try to trivialise, what they did, sometimes saying "But it was only a laugh!".

But very rarely, do we see any REPENTANCE.

"I'm truly sorry. Yes, it was wrong, and a very stupid thing to do. I'm sorry."

Rather, its usually denial, or the 'trivialising' of their wrongdoing.

Psychopaths, many of them, imo.

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A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49371 At my desk.	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #6 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:19pm You could try calling them a literal mindless collective of treacherous Jews, then casually dismissing their plight with something like tough titties, off with their heads.
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Reply #7 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 7:32pm

Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

You could try calling them a literal mindless collective of treacherous Jews, then casually dismissing their plight with something like

tough titties, off with their heads.

Surely no one on this forum would be so 'dismissive' of the murdering and slaughter, of people, who do not believe what they believe !

/sarc off

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #8 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 3:34pm Q/. How do people justify killing. A/. Read and obey the qur'an. Reading and obeying the qur'an has produced worldwide islamic terrorism, today right now 2019.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139151 Gender:	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #9 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 3:38pm moses wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 3:34pm: Q/. How do people justify killing. A/. Read and obey the qur'an. Reading and obeying the qur'an has produced worldwide islamic terrorism, today right now 2019. Apologist.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42299	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #10 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:19pm Perhaps Yadda and Moses should ask Panther this question? He believes he justifies it by having a gun...
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21884 A cat with a view	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #11 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:19pm: Perhaps Yadda and Moses should ask Panther this question? He believes he justifies it by having a gun... That is an accusation. link ???
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #12 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:02pm How do people justify legally interning the entire Australia muslim population into detention - every man, woman and child? - ask Yadda
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Reply #13 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:18pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

How do people justify legally interning the entire Australia muslim population into detention - every man, woman and child?

- ask Yadda Wink

Yadda answers.....

in a thread titled.....
Deport the terrorists – and their families too

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1542007568/2#2
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I see lawful administrative detention of such people, as an option.

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QUARANTINE WORKS!!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34

and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

Examine the arguments that i have made, before you condemn me.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Reply #14 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:31pm . What's the name of that disgustingly fat and ugly jewess who said on US tv that the death of half a million arab children was 'worth it' ? Yep, I remember. Madeleine Albright half a million little kids slaughtered worth it, she says
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