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Reply #15 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 10:05pm

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Really? Show me the government legislation which discriminates against Chinese and Indians as Malaysian legislation does. Its getting boring publically owning you all the time, start reading about stuff at least you muppet.

It's not that hard to find Rhino.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Malaysia#New_Economic_Policy

Government policies of positive discrimination often favour the Malay majority and the Bumiputera status, particularly in areas such as housing, finance and education. Economic policies designed to favour Bumiputera, including affirmative action in public education, were implemented in the 1970s in order to defuse inter-ethnic tensions following the May 13 Incident in 1969.[5] However, these policies have not been fully effective in eradicating poverty among rural Bumiputeras and have further caused a backlash especially from Chinese and Indian minorities. The policies are enshrined in the Malaysian constitution and questioning them is technically illegal.

Hows that for Islamic politics. They make it illegal to question racist laws. No wonder Gandalf comes to their defence at every opportunity.

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #16 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:29pm

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds.

FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times?

First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned".

Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

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Reply #17 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:34pm

Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps.

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Reply #18 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps.

Quite so......

Muslim re-education camp:-

Allah will sort 'em out.. no worries...

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Reply #19 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:37pm

freediver wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Really? Show me the government legislation which discriminates against Chinese and Indians as Malaysian legislation does. Its getting boring publically owning you all the time, start reading about stuff at least you muppet.

It's not that hard to find Rhino.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Malaysia#New_Economic_Policy

Government policies of positive discrimination often favour the Malay majority and the Bumiputera status, particularly in areas such as housing, finance and education. Economic policies designed to favour Bumiputera, including affirmative action in public education, were implemented in the 1970s in order to defuse inter-ethnic tensions following the May 13 Incident in 1969.[5] However, these policies have not been fully effective in eradicating poverty among rural Bumiputeras and have further caused a backlash especially from Chinese and Indian minorities. The policies are enshrined in the Malaysian constitution and questioning them is technically illegal.

Hows that for Islamic politics. They make it illegal to question racist laws. No wonder Gandalf comes to their defence at every opportunity.

He's asking about Australia FD, not Malaysia.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #20 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:38pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps.

Quite so......

Muslim re-education camp:-

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7122/1469/1600/iran_hanging.jpg

Allah will sort 'em out.. no worries...

Oh well, Iran, Malaysia... close enough eh.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #21 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:41pm

Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia.

Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass.

Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya.

Chez Gordon has considerable empty space.

Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

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Reply #22 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-...

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #23 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:41pm:

Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia.

Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass.

Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya.

Chez Gordon has considerable empty space.

You could start by housing some. Lead by example.

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #24 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-...

Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #25 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:21pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-...

Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

not sure I understand hammer - thousands of asylum seekers entering by boat is nothing compared to thousands of asylum seekers entering by plane - how exactly?

Or did you mean that unlike the 'plane people', most of the boat people were assessed as genuine refugees?

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #26 - Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:57pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds.

FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times?

First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned".

Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened?

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #27 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 1:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:41pm:

Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia.

Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass.

Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya.

Chez Gordon has considerable empty space.

You could start by housing some. Lead by example.

Should I evict British refugees to create space?

Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

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Reply #28 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 3:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-...

The story on the "people smuggling racket" was and is a complete fraud, I have shown this before. Heres the pertinent bit that you missed in the story. Quote:

Men from Vietnam wait in a Malaysian hotel on the

false hope they'll make their way to Australia.

« Last Edit: Apr 17^th, 2019 at 3:09pm by rhino »

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Reply #29 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 3:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

there are no such statistics which show the race of Malaysians entering Australia . It is Malaysia which discriminates against ethnic Chinese and Indians, not Australia. Anything else you dont know? Why on earth dont you check your facts before posting and avoid making yourself look astoundingly ignorant.

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