Australian Politics Forum - Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #30 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-...

Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

What about the tens of thousands who flew in?

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #32 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 2:30pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds.

FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times?

First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned".

Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened?

The federal court did not intervene. The lawmakers were fully aware from the start that they were creating laws that could never be implemented, and everyone just left it at that. No intervention required.

Also, are you seriously still linking this to the very recent spike in asylum claims from Malaysia - even though this law has been around for nearly 30 years, and nothing has changed?

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Re: Australia's many Malaysian protection visas. Scam?
Reply #33 - Apr 19^th, 2019 at 10:02am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds.

FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times?

First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned".

Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened?

The federal court did not intervene. The lawmakers were fully aware from the start that they were creating laws that could never be implemented, and everyone just left it at that. No intervention required.

Also, are you seriously still linking this to the very recent spike in asylum claims from Malaysia - even though this law has been around for nearly 30 years, and nothing has changed?

So they still have the death penalty for aposatasy on the books? Do you think there is a risk that Muslim politicians might still try to enforce it?

Yes I am linking it. Malaysia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Both the death penalty for apostasy and the asylum claims are symptoms of this. If you were unfortunate enough to be a citizen of Malaysia, would you not also try to escape?

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