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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #270 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #271 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 12:06pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:

Muslims are murdering people for the slightest difference in 'temporal matters'.

Agreed, and its wrong. Most aren't though.

That's the rub. The murderers are Islamically impeccable. Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

You are trying to tell us that Islam is nothing to worry about because most of its adherents are utter cowards and backsliders who avoid adhering to Islam's doctrines. Come the caliphate, they will all switch, just like *that*, to fervent adherence. Islam is a DEMONSTRATIVE religion. It has no heart. Go through the motions, grow a silly beard, cover your hair and face, do the recitals and you are OK. What you ACTUALLY believe, what is in your heart - nobody cares.

APPEAR - that's all there is to it, DEMONSTRATE Submission. Islam - might as well put a bone through your noses. It's that silly and atavistic and backward. Show us a single Islamic doctrine that is new and is an improvement on Christianity or Judaism. Just one. You can't because there isn't one. Islam is a hissy fit and a con, perpetrated by a priapic warlord, to rally his conquering troops. As a religion, it's empty.ii

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #272 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:32pm

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Let me know how you go in your attempt to have the starting age changed to eight.

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #273 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times. In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.

Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight. You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #274 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:52pm

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Not in the US ...

US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #275 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Not in the US ...

US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."

You stupid turd - most is NOT all. Arbitrary is correct. Idiotic Turd is correct. Lying bastard idiotic dishonest despicable dam Turd is correct.

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Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Reply #276 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 9:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:

So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.

Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?

18 is arbitrary.

Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?

Speed is not personhood, Turd.

Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Not in the US ...

US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."

It's like shooting fish in a barrel, with Frank.

Really stupid fish Grin

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Reply #277 - May 3^rd, 2019 at 10:20pm

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times. In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.

Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight. You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.

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Not in the US,

You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.

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Reply #278 - May 4^th, 2019 at 9:01am

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

That's the rub. The murderers are Islamically impeccable. Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

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Reply #279 - May 4^th, 2019 at 11:50am

Dnarever wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 10:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times. In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.

Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight. You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.

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Not in the US,

You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.

It is state legislation that sets the age limit for alcohol purchase at 21.

You are always in a rush to parade your grinning stupidity..

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Reply #280 - May 4^th, 2019 at 11:54am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

That's the rub. The murderers are Islamically impeccable. Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's example most keenly and conscienciously.

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.

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Reply #281 - May 4^th, 2019 at 1:19pm

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

That's the rub. The murderers are Islamically impeccable. Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's example most keenly and conscienciously.

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.

How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren? The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates. The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another. The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist. Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it? Roll Eyes

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Reply #282 - May 4^th, 2019 at 2:35pm

Meanwhile as the leftards and *moderates* slither around with all their excuses, muslims are:

The greatest global terrorist threat in 2019.

The worlds' refugee problem in 2019.

Murder their children in the tens of thousands with starvation and refugee trauma from their incessant muslim on muslim violence.

There is only one answer to all this:

muslims must take responsibility for and purge the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates the above.

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Reply #283 - May 4^th, 2019 at 2:40pm

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 10:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times. In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.

Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight. You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.

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Not in the US,

You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.

It is state legislation that sets the age limit for alcohol purchase at 21.

You are always in a rush to parade your grinning stupidity..

Here sure is.

Like I said, it's like shooting (really stupid) fish in a barrel.

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Reply #284 - May 4^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4^th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

That's the rub. The murderers are Islamically impeccable. Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's example most keenly and conscienciously.

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.

How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren? The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates. The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another. The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist. Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it? Roll Eyes

You miss the point completely, as you always do.

IF. Do you see that little word? Right at the beginning of third sentence.

The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans. That's why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.

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