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Reply #225 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
Never try to gag Australians. We'll just do the opposite.



no ones trying to gag him. He's free to say whatever he wants. Just as Rugby Australia is free set it's own social media policies and 'gofundme' is free to set up their own terms of use.


I'm talking about the bigger picture.
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Reply #226 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
Isn't this really about Falau versus Pooftahs who believe in Hell?



no, it's about Falau breaching his employment contract



Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful?  Instinctively NO - and we will see it legally clarified at the end of the law case for which he is receiving financial support.

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Reply #227 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
Never try to gag Australians. We'll just do the opposite.



no ones trying to gag him. He's free to say whatever he wants. Just as Rugby Australia is free set it's own social media policies and 'gofundme' is free to set up their own terms of use.




And for religious schools not to hire atheists, drunks, fornicators, homosexuals, etc and demand that employees conform to their ethos.

Yes?




that ridiculous....what right does Israel have to tell who will or will not go to HELL>.

who doesnt happen to meet with his approval... Angry

did you notice no mention of trans sexuals...oooops that would be on dodgy ground..

homosexuals  are after all open GAME  for pulling down...
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Reply #228 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful? 



Of course it is. Businesses have been doing it for years. It's not the first time someone has tried to claim wrongful dismissal because of it. I'm not aware of any case where the employee ever won after being made aware that it was against company policy.

If you represent them, you abide their rules. Otherwise stop taking their money and post away whatever you like on facebook.
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Reply #229 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:47pm
 
What does the dick hope to achieve?  Does he really hope to get back to being in the Team?  He is no chance.  He will be shunned...he has 'lost the dressing room.'

Or is it dollars?

Or is it martyrdom?  In 400 years, will he be regarded as the Second Coming?  Bobby?
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Reply #230 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
Isn't this really about Falau versus Pooftahs who believe in Hell?



no, it's about Falau breaching his employment contract



Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful?  Instinctively NO - and we will see it legally clarified at the end of the law case for which he is receiving financial support.



Raven would argue that a business or organisation has a right to expect it's employees do not bring the business into disrepute. Almost every company has policies it expects it's employees to abide by. A lot of them around social media.

Had Falau expressed his views in a more private fashion we would not have this conversation. This is not the first time he has made comments that concerned Rugby Australia. They asked him not to do it again and when he did they took action.

This is not about freedom of speech or freedom of religion.

He was perfectly free to say whatever he liked — but not be free from consequences.

The fact of the matter is Folau signed a contract with his employer, for which he was paid handsomely, and made a series of commitments to not bring the sport into disrepute, not to distract from his on-field activities, and not to target specific groups in a hateful or offensive way.

He breached the terms of that contract and Rugby Australia responded.
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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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Reply #231 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:00pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
What does the dick hope to achieve?  Does he really hope to get back to being in the Team?  He is no chance.  He will be shunned...he has 'lost the dressing room.'

Or is it dollars?

Or is it martyrdom?  In 400 years, will he be regarded as the Second Coming?  Bobby?


It's the money.

Falau was happy to ignore his religious beliefs when, in an effort to boost his profile and secure lucrative sponsorships, he appeared on the front page of gay magazine the Star Observer under the headline "Big Boys and their Balls"
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Reply #232 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm
 
falau on the cover of a gay magazine ... guess he wasn't worried about sinners while they were paying him  Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #233 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
falau on the cover of a gay magazine ... guess he wasn't worried about sinners while they were paying him  Cheesy Cheesy

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4b4033376744109ac6fa2f4afcf0083e?width=650


Another hypochristian.

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Reply #234 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful? 



Of course it is. Businesses have been doing it for years. It's not the first time someone has tried to claim wrongful dismissal because of it. I'm not aware of any case where the employee ever won after being made aware that it was against company policy.

If you represent them, you abide their rules. Otherwise stop taking their money and post away whatever you like on facebook.

And to think that for all those years I thought you were some lefty proto-socialist and here you are, a complete and abject advocate for corporatism and business supremacy even in the spheres of conscience and public discourse.  So when your boss says no union on my shop floor, no gay propaganda, no trannie propaganda -  you are cool with that.



Of course not.  This case brings out all the schizophrenics and the two-faced and thee yea-but-no-but shill like you.


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Reply #235 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful? 



Of course it is. Businesses have been doing it for years. It's not the first time someone has tried to claim wrongful dismissal because of it. I'm not aware of any case where the employee ever won after being made aware that it was against company policy.

If you represent them, you abide their rules. Otherwise stop taking their money and post away whatever you like on facebook.

And to think that for all those years I thought you were some lefty proto-socialist and here you are, a complete and abject advocate for corporatism and business supremacy even in the spheres of conscience and public discourse.  So when your boss says no union on my shop floor, no gay propaganda, no trannie propaganda -  you are cool with that.



Of course not.  This case brings out all the schizophrenics and the two-faced and thee yea-but-no-but shill like you.




With the exception of the first*...yes I am okay with that.  If I don't like his Rules, I don't work for or get paid by him.

*I suspect it is illegal to ban Unions from the workplace.
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Reply #236 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
falau on the cover of a gay magazine ... guess he wasn't worried about sinners while they were paying him  Cheesy Cheesy

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4b4033376744109ac6fa2f4afcf0083e?width=650




Do you have the article that went with that cover?


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Reply #237 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful? 



Of course it is. Businesses have been doing it for years. It's not the first time someone has tried to claim wrongful dismissal because of it. I'm not aware of any case where the employee ever won after being made aware that it was against company policy.

If you represent them, you abide their rules. Otherwise stop taking their money and post away whatever you like on facebook.

And to think that for all those years I thought you were some lefty proto-socialist and here you are, a complete and abject advocate for corporatism and business supremacy even in the spheres of conscience and public discourse.  So when your boss says no union on my shop floor, no gay propaganda, no trannie propaganda -  you are cool with that.



Of course not.  This case brings out all the schizophrenics and the two-faced and thee yea-but-no-but shill like you.




With the exception of the first*...yes I am okay with that.  If I don't like his Rules, I don't work for or get paid by him.

*I suspect it is illegal to ban Unions from the workplace.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Brave Arse - happy to be anti-union but will never say no to bending over.



KARNAAAAL!!!!!

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Reply #238 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm
 
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Reply #239 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
falau on the cover of a gay magazine ... guess he wasn't worried about sinners while they were paying him  Cheesy Cheesy

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4b4033376744109ac6fa2f4afcf0083e?width=650




Do you have the article that went with that cover?




Here is some insight.

Link.
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