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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #345 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:38am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

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gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

Interesting observation.

Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right.

If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain.

If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices.

Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court.

Thanks Gordon,
All companies are putting far more
fine print into contracts these days.
They want to own your soul.

As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay.

Don't like the contract? Walk away.

Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink?

Employers have people over a barrel.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #346 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:22am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

r the habitual drunk who drinks to excess at every opportunity, drinks on the job, does a bad job, blames someone else, skates by until finally he's sacked and then the house is in arrears and his family have to leave and live a life of uncertainty and poverty, shame etc. while the drunk somehow manages to steal or withhold some welfare money in order to slurp some more on his alcohol-god/

That harms people, that fits my definition.

It does and many of us have suffered the drunks' fallout (or the gambler's fallout or the adulterer's etc. fallout)

many of us have spent the best part of our lives either suffering the fallout or trying to dodge it or trying to help

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #347 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:49am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:08am:

Raven wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

so are you in favor of say a very religious Muslim telling infidels to go to HELL in the open market place?... Roll Eyes

because when it some to FOS....its cannot stipulate only this religion or that religion can speak at will in the open public arena...

it doesnt work like that..

the constitution has nothing to do with this...

this is about a man made law...and deep down we all know there is no such thing as FOS>

Everyone is free to say what they want. However in every democracy on the planet freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.

Yes you can say what you want but be prepared for the consequences of what you say. Yes a Muslim Cleric can preach hate in a market place. As can a Christian Minister. Freedom of speech means the government can not stop you from saying something. It does not mean you can not be held accountable for what you say.

Now if this Muslim Cleric or Christian Minister moonlights for an organisation that thinks that what the Muslim or Christian has said impacts negatively on their business then they reserve the right to discipline their employee, be it a warning or dismissal.

Falau can say what he wants, he is still free to say what he wants. But he needs to be prepared to stand accountable for what he says and not hide behind his religion.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #348 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:51am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:38am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

Interesting observation.

Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right.

If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain.

If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices.

Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court.

Thanks Gordon,
All companies are putting far more
fine print into contracts these days.
They want to own your soul.

As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay.

Don't like the contract? Walk away.

Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink?

Employers have people over a barrel.

Thats the nature of private organisations. You don't like your workplaces culture, you don't have to work for them.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #349 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #350 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:06am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:38am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

Interesting observation.

Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right.

If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain.

If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices.

Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court.

Thanks Gordon,
All companies are putting far more
fine print into contracts these days.
They want to own your soul.

As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay.

Don't like the contract? Walk away.

Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink?

Employers have people over a barrel.

Well, yes.

Welcome to capitalism, Bobby.

Exploitation is the name of the game.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #351 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:33am

Raven wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:49am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:08am:

Raven wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

so are you in favor of say a very religious Muslim telling infidels to go to HELL in the open market place?... Roll Eyes

because when it some to FOS....its cannot stipulate only this religion or that religion can speak at will in the open public arena...

it doesnt work like that..

the constitution has nothing to do with this...

this is about a man made law...and deep down we all know there is no such thing as FOS>

Everyone is free to say what they want. However in every democracy on the planet freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.

Yes you can say what you want but be prepared for the consequences of what you say. Yes a Muslim Cleric can preach hate in a market place. As can a Christian Minister. Freedom of speech means the government can not stop you from saying something. It does not mean you can not be held accountable for what you say.

Now if this Muslim Cleric or Christian Minister moonlights for an organisation that thinks that what the Muslim or Christian has said impacts negatively on their business then they reserve the right to discipline their employee, be it a warning or dismissal.

Falau can say what he wants, he is still free to say what he wants. But he needs to be prepared to stand accountable for what he says and not hide behind his religion.

of course its the consequences that count......he lost his job his well paying job....why doesnt he go out and become a real estate agent.. or a garbo or a postman.... whats stopping him getting another job...

oh thats right could be the money he was paid... Roll Eyes

and yet those paying him huge sums to chase a ball...

have basically no right to ask him not to make statements in the public arena that could hurt their image turn fans against the code that pays him mightily well..... too well as far as i am concerned..

its biting the hand that feeds you...imo....no one is stopping him standing in the pulpit just dont post it thats all they asked...

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #352 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:41am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

Do a news search a week or two after the story broke.
They've been gunning for her from the beginning.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #353 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:38am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

Interesting observation.

Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right.

If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain.

If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices.

Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court.

Thanks Gordon,
All companies are putting far more
fine print into contracts these days.
They want to own your soul.

As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay.

Don't like the contract? Walk away.

Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink?

Employers have people over a barrel.

Well, yes.

Welcome to capitalism, Bobby.

Exploitation is the name of the game.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WateryDefenselessChital-size_restricted.gif

Greggy,
communism is not the answer -
laws to protect free speech are.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #354 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:51am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:38am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

.
gotta say

this is interesting

The Aussies are riled

about bloody time they got riled

and good on them

Good work from people who stand up
for the right of free speech.

There is such a thing as an illegal contract.
It's amazing that our resident lawyer
didn't point that out.
Examples:
To pay a penalty for breaking a contract
by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body.

For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will
and give everything to the dogs home.

The court may decide that to remove
someone's free speech is also illegal.

Interesting observation.

Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right.

If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain.

If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices.

Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court.

Thanks Gordon,
All companies are putting far more
fine print into contracts these days.
They want to own your soul.

As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay.

Don't like the contract? Walk away.

Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink?

Employers have people over a barrel.

Well, yes.

Welcome to capitalism, Bobby.

Exploitation is the name of the game.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WateryDefenselessChital-size_restricted.gif

Greggy,
communism is not the answer -
laws to protect free speech are.

Nobody mentioned communism, Bobby.

And, freedom of speech is the right to express your opinions.

It's not freedom from consequences.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #355 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:51am

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

Do a news search a week or two after the story broke.
They've been gunning for her from the beginning.

had she posted any support for her husband??..

she too is in the public eye...she too earned her keep playing sport....she too has obligations to her team to her country to her sponsors....

its the way of the world for professional sportsmen and women..... it is a fact of life they all SIGN CONTRACTS...

I do not believe in the attacks by any means and those who do it should be ashamed of themselves.... I consider ozpol to be a private forum and nothing like instagram or twitter.... where most of it is down right violent....but we should also accept that each of us has to be accountable to someone...

those who live by the sword!!!!!!..

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #356 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:53am bobby do you think Israel is also a sinner for his obvious GREED. or do you think God will see this as need not greed..?
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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #357 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:17pm

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

Do a news search a week or two after the story broke.
They've been gunning for her from the beginning.

had she posted any support for her husband??..

she too is in the public eye...she too earned her keep playing sport....she too has obligations to her team to her country to her sponsors....

its the way of the world for professional sportsmen and women..... it is a fact of life they all SIGN CONTRACTS...

I do not believe in the attacks by any means and those who do it should be ashamed of themselves.... I consider ozpol to be a private forum and nothing like instagram or twitter.... where most of it is down right violent....but we should also accept that each of us has to be accountable to someone...

those who live by the sword!!!!!!..

They went after her before she said a thing, just for being his wife.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #358 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:25pm

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

She hasn't been attacked.

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Reply #359 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

She hasn't been attacked.

Funny how hyper-vigilant and hypersensitive Gordy is in relation to Folau's wife yet fails to understand the concept or consequence of hate speech.

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