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Reply #375 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:21pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:17pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:08pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

For Cods.

Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player.

well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns...

I havent seen his wife attacked at all....

She hasn't been attacked.

Funny how hyper-vigilant and hypersensitive Gordy is in relation to Folau's wife yet fails to understand the concept or consequence of hate speech.

Was what Izzy said hate speech?

Has his wife been attacked?

Maria Folau slapped down by ANZ Bank over link to Izzy’s fund-raiser on social media

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/maria-folau-slapped-down-by-anz-bank-over-link-to-izzys-fundraiser-on-social-media/news-story/185f7e0350f90836444fbce9adf657ba

Jesus. You're absolutely pathetic.

If that constitutes an attack, what does condemning people to hell for being sinful constitute?

Other sponsors are lining up against her too.

That's an attack.

No it's not. It's their right to distance themselves from her ideological stance. Or known association with such. Sponsors never endorse players whose conduct is questionable.

You clearly disagree but most people understand how offensive Folau is. Just because you agree with him doesn't make him not highly dangerous.

I'm an athiest so how could I agree that Im going to hell?

Oh you agree. Maybe not in the hell bit but you agree with the demonisation of that community.

At the very least, and i only offer this as a counter to your "I even worked with gays" story line, you refuse to see the damage.

Mostly, like all of your kind, because it's not about you and that they try to make you feel bad sometimes.

In dont believe gays will go to hell either and I harbor no illfeeling towards them. Zero.

Yeah i know. Just like you're not a racist.

You just resent them being uppity and don;t think they should have any particular consideration.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #376 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:22pm

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Yet i see the finer point continues to be lost on you. If what has 'happened' to her constitutes an "attack" ... what does telling people they are going to hell for being sinful constitute?

It's love speech. He loves them so much he wants to save them from themselves. Not my logic it his.

Do you agree?

No. You idiot.

Neither you or I believe it but fundy Christians do.

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Reply #377 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:24pm

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Yet i see the finer point continues to be lost on you. If what has 'happened' to her constitutes an "attack" ... what does telling people they are going to hell for being sinful constitute?

It's love speech. He loves them so much he wants to save them from themselves. Not my logic it his.

Do you agree?

No. You idiot.

Yes you fool.
Unless Izzy saves them they'll burn forever
in hellfire and damnation.

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #378 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:24pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Yet i see the finer point continues to be lost on you. If what has 'happened' to her constitutes an "attack" ... what does telling people they are going to hell for being sinful constitute?

It's love speech. He loves them so much he wants to save them from themselves. Not my logic it his.

Do you agree?

No. You idiot.

Neither you or I believe it but fundy Christians do.

If you think that's their motivation you understand absolutely nothing.

Think of it more as akin to your sense of supremacy. You know how i bristle at that?

Are you with me here?

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Reply #379 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Yet i see the finer point continues to be lost on you. If what has 'happened' to her constitutes an "attack" ... what does telling people they are going to hell for being sinful constitute?

It's love speech. He loves them so much he wants to save them from themselves. Not my logic it his.

Do you agree?

No. You idiot.

Yes you fool.
Unless Izzy saves them they'll burn forever
in hellfire and damnation.

And you have such a proven sense of supremacy you think you have the right to take someone's actual life.

Not to mention you are perpetually forgiving people and offering them salvation .. as though you can.

Who the hell do you people think you are?

Not a charitable bone in your bodies. All judgment. All supremacy.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20480 Gordon Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #380 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:31pm Don't believe me, read up on former Westboro member Megan Phelps. She said they believe so firmly that siners area headed for hell their motivation is to save all sinners.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35220 Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #381 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:32pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:31pm: Don't believe me, read up on former Westboro member Megan Phelps. She said they believe so firmly that siners area headed for hell their motivation is to save all sinners. I've looked extensively into them, thanks. They exemplify my point. Supremacy. At it's very root. Supremacy.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20480 Gordon Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #382 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:34pm What about Peter Singer? I assume that is what Folau believes he is doing. He even tells homosexuals that Jesus loves them, and calls on them to repent so that they can avoid burning in hell for eternity. That doesn’t sound like hate speech..
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20480 Gordon Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #383 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm Is peter Singer an idiot too?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35220 Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #384 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm WTF has Peter Singer got to do with this, Folau fan-boy? edit ... reading his article
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20480 Gordon Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #385 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:38pm mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm: WTF has Peter Singer got to do with this, Folau fan-boy? He made the exact point I did. EXACTLY. Is peter Singer an idiot too? https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rugby-australia-israel-folau-firing...
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Reply #386 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:40pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:38pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm:

WTF has Peter Singer got to do with this, Folau fan-boy?

He made the exact point I did. EXACTLY.

Is peter Singer an idiot too?

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rugby-australia-israel-folau-firing...

I would say he would completely agree with what i am saying, owing to his having the mental agility to recognise the point.

You don't go telling other people how to live unless you think you are better than them.

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Reply #387 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:46pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

What about Peter Singer?

I assume that is what Folau believes he is doing. He even tells homosexuals that Jesus loves them, and calls on them to repent so that they can avoid burning in hell for eternity. That doesn’t sound like hate speech..

yes.
It is not hate speech.
It is Love Speech

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Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau
Reply #388 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:46pm

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:40pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:38pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm:

WTF has Peter Singer got to do with this, Folau fan-boy?

He made the exact point I did. EXACTLY.

Is peter Singer an idiot too?

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rugby-australia-israel-folau-firing...

I would say he would completely agree with what i am saying, owing to his having the mental agility to recognise the point.

You don't go telling other people how to live unless you think you are better than them.

He also said Izzy is motivated by saving people, not hate, which is exactly my point.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20480 Gordon Gender:	Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Reply #389 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:51pm Peter Singer nails it here. But the post no more expresses hatred toward homosexuals than cigarette warnings express hatred toward smokers.
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