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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #90 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

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Secret Wars Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3928 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #91 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm: Is it legal to take a pound of flesh as penalty for non payment of a debt? According to resident geniuses if you have a contract or it’s in the code of conduct then yes.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #92 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #93 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

It's perfectly legal for an employer to sack an employee for breaching their Code of Conduct.

Happens all the time.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #94 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:36pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia.

I shouldn't laugh. I apoligise.

Let's do this the proper way.

Here's Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."

And here's the Rugby Australia Code of Conduct (under 'C'):

https://australia.rugby/about/codes-and-policies/all-codes-and-policies

So, which part number, on what page, violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Does anyone know where Baronvonrong got this idea from?

Is the fleecer posting that claim on social media or something?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38865 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #95 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:22pm Not sure what you mean by that. He did post some crap on his social media page. This on Instagram (whatever that it.) Link.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #96 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Not sure what you mean by that. He did post some crap on his social media page.

This on Instagram (whatever that it.)

Link.

Baron claimed that:

"The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia."

I'm just wondering where he got that nonsense from?

Did he come up with it himself, or is it something that's being shared on social media, or reported in the news?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #97 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

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Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-12-18/read-article-18.html

It's good to see Izzy can afford a real legal team instead of a taxi driver from the gold coast who pretends to be a lawyer. Little Pecca also claimed he was a lawyer with his previous sock Uncle Meat it turned out he was just a union clerk. Why do these leftards pretend to be lawyers?

Article 18 protects not only the ‘traditional’ religious beliefs of the major religions, but also non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess any religion or belief. The right recognised in Article 18 is simultaneously an individual right, and a collective right.

It has both an ‘internal’ dimension (the freedom to adopt, hold or change a belief), and an ‘external’ dimension (the freedom to manifest that belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching).

While the internal dimension is absolute, the external dimension can be subject to certain limitations. Namely freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #98 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-12-18/read-article-18.html

It's good to see Izzy can afford a real legal team instead of a taxi driver from the gold coast who pretends to be a lawyer. Little Pecca also claimed he was a lawyer with his previous sock Uncle Meat it turned out he was just a union clerk. Why do these leftards pretend to be lawyers?

Article 18 protects not only the ‘traditional’ religious beliefs of the major religions, but also non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess any religion or belief. The right recognised in Article 18 is simultaneously an individual right, and a collective right.

It has both an ‘internal’ dimension (the freedom to adopt, hold or change a belief), and an ‘external’ dimension (the freedom to manifest that belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching).

While the internal dimension is absolute, the external dimension can be subject to certain limitations. Namely freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

Nobody is trying to deny the fleecer his human rights.

And, Rugby AU's Code of Conduct certainly doesn't violate Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I'm really not sure what Baronvonrong is going on about.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38865 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #99 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm Nice: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.phpattachments/folau-png.89771/ (Bloody size thing schits me! )
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139783 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #100 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm: Nice: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?attachments/folau-png.89771/ (Bloody size thing schits me! ) That link doesn't work properly. It just goes to some forum - there's no picture (.png).
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38865 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #101 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:57pm Now click on the link IN YOUR POST.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #102 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

Nice:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?attachments/folau-png.89771/

(Bloody size thing schits me! Angry

)

That link doesn't work properly.

It just goes to some forum - there's no picture (.png).

Now it says:

"You must be logged in to do that."

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #103 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #104 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

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