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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139758 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #105 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:57pm: Now click on the link IN YOUR POST. Only members can see whatever it is you're posting.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #106 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #107 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #108 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #109 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

One of those attacking the code this week was Sydney’s Anglican archbishop, Glenn Davies, who eloquently defended Folau’s “right as a citizen to speak of what he believes without threat to his employment”.

You know the same archbishop who compelled 34 Anglican headmasters and headmistresses last year to sign an open letter demanding the law allow them to sack gay teachers and expel gay students.

They want one rule for them and one for the rest of us. Folau is free as a footballer to vilify homosexuals without losing his job but were he coaching rugby at a Sydney Anglican school and tweeting approval of gays it might well see him shown the door.

In other words if you are demanding rights for yourself which you won’t extend to others, that’s not freedom. It’s privilege.

And we are all in this debarcle because Folau changed his mind. For a million bucks a year, he agreed to go easy on denouncing, among other vices, the evils of homosexuality. But why say yes in the first place if it's profound violation of his rights and his faith? And why does he expect more millions from Rugby Australia because he’s copped the ordinary consequences of going back on his word?

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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #110 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-12-18/read-article-18.html

It's good to see Izzy can afford a real legal team instead of a taxi driver from the gold coast who pretends to be a lawyer. Little Pecca also claimed he was a lawyer with his previous sock Uncle Meat it turned out he was just a union clerk. Why do these leftards pretend to be lawyers?

Article 18 protects not only the ‘traditional’ religious beliefs of the major religions, but also non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess any religion or belief. The right recognised in Article 18 is simultaneously an individual right, and a collective right.

It has both an ‘internal’ dimension (the freedom to adopt, hold or change a belief), and an ‘external’ dimension (the freedom to manifest that belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching).

While the internal dimension is absolute, the external dimension can be subject to certain limitations. Namely freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

Nobody is trying to deny the fleecer his human rights.

And, Rugby AU's Code of Conduct certainly doesn't violate Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I'm really not sure what Baronvonrong is going on about.

does that also include comparing skimperly clad women to a dish of cat meat?... Roll Eyes

why do they not understand?.. Roll Eyes

no one is stopping Folau preaching or saying what hes been saying...

if it is acceptable for Folau to post his beliefs on who should go to HELL....in the public marketplace..

then it will be ok for every Tom Dick and Harry to do the same thing?.....

all I know is IF a muslim dared to say all homosexuals will go to HELL...I can see a lynch mob.. Undecided

and there would be no go fund me for them to hire a QC

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #111 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Israel Folau quoted directly from the Bible and
lost his job for it.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #112 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Israel Folau quoted directly from the Bible ...

First of all, no he didn't.

And secondly, show us the text in Rugby AU's Code of Conduct that takes away an employee's right to quote from the Bible.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #113 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:16pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm:

One of those attacking the code this week was Sydney’s Anglican archbishop, Glenn Davies, who eloquently defended Folau’s “right as a citizen to speak of what he believes without threat to his employment”.

You know the same archbishop who compelled 34 Anglican headmasters and headmistresses last year to sign an open letter demanding the law allow them to sack gay teachers and expel gay students.

They want one rule for them and one for the rest of us. Folau is free as a footballer to vilify homosexuals without losing his job but were he coaching rugby at a Sydney Anglican school and tweeting approval of gays it might well see him shown the door.

In other words if you are demanding rights for yourself which you won’t extend to others, that’s not freedom. It’s privilege.

And we are all in this debarcle because Folau changed his mind. For a million bucks a year, he agreed to go easy on denouncing, among other vices, the evils of homosexuality. But why say yes in the first place if it's profound violation of his rights and his faith? And why does he expect more millions from Rugby Australia because he’s copped the ordinary consequences of going back on his word?

good one raven whatever happened to Christianity it is nothing like I was brought up to believe in...

something about do unto others....

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you. This saying has come to be called the Golden Rule.

it seems not to exist anymore... Sad

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #114 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:19pm bobs where does it talk about drunks fornicators homosexuals... not sure about the word liars... as far as I know none of these words existed in days of yore....Folau is taking snippets and making a mountain out of them...
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #115 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

cods wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

bobs where does it talk about
drunks
fornicators
homosexuals...

not sure about the word liars...

as far as I know none of these words existed in days of yore....Folau is taking snippets and making a mountain out of them...

And 'Hell awaits you'.

I don't remember ever reading that in the Bible.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38865 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #116 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #117 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:26pm I dont even know what church he belongs too Israel I mean....is it one of the news fangled groups...who make up their own version of the bible..
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #118 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:27pm Are you siding with the luvvies, Cods?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35587 Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #119 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm: Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says: https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz... Is it Leviticus 19:28? https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm
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