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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #150 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.




"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #151 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:22pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him. 

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby?  How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!





Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.




No, it is not.

Where does the Bible say "Hell awaits you"?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #152 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.




"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.


Do you know the difference between 'quote' and 'interpretation', Bobby?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #153 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.




"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.


Do you know the difference between 'quote' and 'interpretation', Bobby?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?



I haven't seen the contract but clearly Folau was sacked for
breaking that contract by
making quotes from the Bible.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #154 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:38pm
 
permanent location for homofascism:

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June 26 2019

Homofascism: the belief that, in the interests of inclusiveness, people should lose their job for having an unpopular religious belief.
Support among the Australian public for Rugby Australia firing Israel Folau appears to be ultimately based on the view that his comments were 'not inclusive'. Rugby Australia cited a violation of it's inclusiveness policy in justifying excluding him from the game. The hypocrisy of supporting real harm (losing a job) in exchange for harm that cannot be demonstrated (statements about the afterlife) seems lost to such people. Alternatively, many people offer a technical, contractual justification. Ignoring that the contractual justification rests on an inclusiveness policy, this also fails the reciprocity test. If the situation were reversed and the majority of the population were reactionary, conservative and religious, would those who now support Folau losing his job on technical grounds also support someone losing their job for raising the ire of the majority by saying that gays don't go to hell? Probably not.

As well as the ethical hypocrisy, Israel Folau's firing raises many problems with freedom of speech and workplace discrimination. We could all face the situation of our employer demanding that we are, or must become, a full-time ambassador for the company we work for. They could then make all sorts of absurd demands, for example that we refrain from sharing our religious, political, sexual or other views with our friends, outside of work hours. In Israel's case this is compounded by the abuse of monopoly power. Folau cannot simply get another rugby union job without leaving the country. Rugby Australia has a monopoly on employment in Australia and is abusing that power to impose its preferred social and political points of view.

Israel Folau set up a gofundme account to raise funds for a legal challenge. This raised further controversy, mostly based on accusations of greed (because Israel could have sold off half his assets to pay the legal fees). The account was suspended by the gofundme website. Ironically, they cited their discrimination policy as justification. All donations were refunded. While gofundme will not support freedom of speech (or for that matter, a genuinely inclusive inclusiveness policy), they will raise funds for a kid who physically assaulted a senator (to be fair, the senator also had unpopular opinions, so at least they are consistent in that regard). The Australian Christian Lobby donated $100,000 and set up an alternative donation page, which raised over $1 million on the first day. This was a dramatic increase in the rate of donations via the gofundme website, and indicates that increased efforts to discriminate in the workplace on the basis of religion are generating significant pushback from members of the public who are religious or who value freedom of religion, freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.

Discuss (and where to donate)

Alan Joyce, CEO of Qantas, has been accused of pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired. He recently denied the claims (after the public backlash), at the same time as publicly supporting Folau's firing on behalf of Qantas. Here is a previous article about a scam that Qantas appears to still be running in collaboration with its partner airlines. The scam works like this: Qantas staff reassure a passenger that certain baggage fees will not be charged. Partner airlines hold the customer to ransom at check-in and demand the fee on behalf of Qantas. They instruct the passenger to approach Qantas for a refund. Both airlines then deny responsibility for the mistake and no refund is issued. Thanks Alan for joining the morality police, but can you please stop defrauding your customers?
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #155 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him. 

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby?  How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!





Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

Now - do you agree that Folau lost his job for quoting directly from the Bible?

Also - as a lawyer is it possible that his contract was illegal?


Jayzuz you have a fuqqing hide Bobby.  You ignore the prick's greed and keep crapping on with this schit.

Okay.....I'll answer.  Fuqqed if I will ever be called a Bobby.

He did not quote from the Bible.  He posted a meme created by another who made a cocktail of misquotes from the Bible, and one phrase, the Hell reference for which there is no direct reference.  The Bible does not mention Hell.

There is no 'contract' Bobby.  There is a Code of Conduct he accepted, and there is nothing illegal in that Code.

Ask yourself this Bobby.....if Folau did not have the profile RA gave him, and he was 'Aussie,' a nobody.....would we be having this discussion?  Nah.  This whole thing is BECAUSE he was an iconic marque poster boy RA player and he sought to exploit that.

RA did not give a rat's arse when he profited by supporting poofs or eating prawns.  There was no breach then.  In fact, what he did then was inclusive, supportive and RA would have applauded.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #156 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.




"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.


Do you know the difference between 'quote' and 'interpretation', Bobby?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?



I haven't seen the contract but clearly Folau was sacked for
breaking that contract by
making quotes from the Bible.


I've posted the Code of Conduct several times.

Why haven't you read it?

It doesn't mention the words 'Bible' or 'religion', Bobby.

Moreover, he didn't quote the Bible.

Why are you continuing with this straw-man?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #157 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Is that all you can come up with.......a motherhood piece of drivel?


I was pointing out that you are wrong, little one.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #158 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Is that all you can come up with.......a motherhood piece of drivel?


I was pointing out that you are wrong, little one.


Meh.  Your opinion is not something I will ever bank on Effendi.  I am sure your misleading blog will have a very sudden spike in total lack of interest, as ought be the case.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #159 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:53pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him. 

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby?  How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!





Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

Now - do you agree that Folau lost his job for quoting directly from the Bible?

Also - as a lawyer is it possible that his contract was illegal?


Jayzuz you have a fuqqing hide Bobby.  You ignore the prick's greed and keep crapping on with this schit.

Okay.....I'll answer.  Fuqqed if I will ever be called a Bobby.

He did not quote from the Bible.  He posted a meme created by another who made a cocktail of misquotes from the Bible, and one phrase, the Hell reference for which there is no direct reference.  The Bible does not mention Hell.

There is no 'contract' Bobby.  There is a Code of Conduct he accepted, and there is nothing illegal in that Code.

Ask yourself this Bobby.....if Folau did not have the profile RA gave him, and he was 'Aussie,' a nobody.....would we be having this discussion?  Nah.  This whole thing is BECAUSE he was an iconic marque poster boy RA player and he sought to exploit that.

RA did not give a rat's arse when he profited by supporting poofs or eating prawns.  There was no breach then.  In fact, what he did then was inclusive, supportive and RA would have applauded.



Aussie,
I strongly disagree with you.
The quotes came directly from the Bible.
He quoted the Bible and was sacked.
It's possible that his contract was illegal.

The High Court may decide this.
Let's leave it to the experts as you clearly
don't understand illegal contracts.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #160 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
I am sure your misleading blog will have a very sudden spike in total lack of interest, as ought be the case.



we all saw how effective his last blog was  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #161 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him. 

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby?  How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!





Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

Now - do you agree that Folau lost his job for quoting directly from the Bible?

Also - as a lawyer is it possible that his contract was illegal?


Jayzuz you have a fuqqing hide Bobby.  You ignore the prick's greed and keep crapping on with this schit.

Okay.....I'll answer.  Fuqqed if I will ever be called a Bobby.

He did not quote from the Bible.  He posted a meme created by another who made a cocktail of misquotes from the Bible, and one phrase, the Hell reference for which there is no direct reference.  The Bible does not mention Hell.

There is no 'contract' Bobby.  There is a Code of Conduct he accepted, and there is nothing illegal in that Code.

Ask yourself this Bobby.....if Folau did not have the profile RA gave him, and he was 'Aussie,' a nobody.....would we be having this discussion?  Nah.  This whole thing is BECAUSE he was an iconic marque poster boy RA player and he sought to exploit that.

RA did not give a rat's arse when he profited by supporting poofs or eating prawns.  There was no breach then.  In fact, what he did then was inclusive, supportive and RA would have applauded.



Aussie,
I strongly disagree with you.
The quotes came directly from the Bible.
He quoted the Bible and was sacked.
It's possible that his contract was illegal.

The High Court may decide this.
Let's leave it to the experts as you clearly
don't understand illegal contracts.


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Reply #162 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 8:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby.  You?



His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?


I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!


"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him. 

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby?  How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!





Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

Now - do you agree that Folau lost his job for quoting directly from the Bible?

Also - as a lawyer is it possible that his contract was illegal?


Jayzuz you have a fuqqing hide Bobby.  You ignore the prick's greed and keep crapping on with this schit.

Okay.....I'll answer.  Fuqqed if I will ever be called a Bobby.

He did not quote from the Bible.  He posted a meme created by another who made a cocktail of misquotes from the Bible, and one phrase, the Hell reference for which there is no direct reference.  The Bible does not mention Hell.

There is no 'contract' Bobby.  There is a Code of Conduct he accepted, and there is nothing illegal in that Code.

Ask yourself this Bobby.....if Folau did not have the profile RA gave him, and he was 'Aussie,' a nobody.....would we be having this discussion?  Nah.  This whole thing is BECAUSE he was an iconic marque poster boy RA player and he sought to exploit that.

RA did not give a rat's arse when he profited by supporting poofs or eating prawns.  There was no breach then.  In fact, what he did then was inclusive, supportive and RA would have applauded.



Aussie,
I strongly disagree with you.
The quotes came directly from the Bible.
He quoted the Bible and was sacked.
It's possible that his contract was illegal.

The High Court may decide this.
Let's leave it to the experts as you clearly
don't understand illegal contracts.


If his contract is found to be illegal then every rugby contract in this country is illegal.

It'll virtually destroy the sport.
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Reply #163 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 8:00pm
 
I have to wonder

if all these morons cheering falau on were to one day find themselves in business for themselves, and a staff member put something online that cost the business, or had the potential to cost the business, thousands of dollars in revenue from lost clients, would they still be cheering for the employees freedom of speech?
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #164 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 8:17pm
 
Raven wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 8:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Aussie,
I strongly disagree with you.
The quotes came directly from the Bible.
He quoted the Bible and was sacked.
It's possible that his contract was illegal.

The High Court may decide this.
Let's leave it to the experts as you clearly
don't understand illegal contracts.


If his contract is found to be illegal then every rugby contract in this country is illegal.

It'll virtually destroy the sport.



Most companies have similar contracts.
It may mean writing new contracts for everyone.
This will be a big case.
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