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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #180 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Falou's rights haven't been trampled on, he is still free to say what he likes. But he is not free from the consequences.

Exactly.

Well said.

Then the only solution is to ban religion.
Should the Govt. ban religion?
Should it be illegal to quote the Bible?

Then let's repeal defamation laws. If Raven can accuse you of being a child molester without any actual proof he shouldn't be held accountable for that.

(Disclaimer Raven doesn't believe Bobby is child molester.)

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #181 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Falou's rights haven't been trampled on, he is still free to say what he likes. But he is not free from the consequences.

Exactly.

Well said.

Then the only solution is to ban religion.
Should the Govt. ban religion?
Should it be illegal to quote the Bible?

Solution to what, Bobby?

His rights haven't been trampled on.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

Yeah right - after he's lost his job. Cheesy

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #182 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:31pm

The full list of those that Folau warned were hell-bound included: drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters. But he offered a get-out clause – they could escape their fate if they repented. Well, perhaps most of them could – all but one of those alleged sins is matter of choice, so repentance may be an option.

But homosexuality is not a choice. Demanding repentance for what cannot change is both cruel and pointless – as silly as telling Folau to repent for having Polynesian heritage. This is where the offence lies: people, including young Christians trying to come to terms with their sexuality, are to be condemned to damnation. And because they are who they are, there can be no escape. It is a recipe for rejection, trauma and despair.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #183 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 2:16am

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 10:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:06pm:

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Should Folau's right to freedom of religion trump others right to freedom from religion?

Of course. What imbecile would suggest otherwise?

So you think a person who is religious should have more rights then a person who is not?

No. I assumed when you said freedom from religion you meant something idiotic like freedom from other people's opinions.

Well we all know what assumption is the mother of.

Falou has the right to his religious beliefs. By the same token other people have the right to not be subjected to those beliefs.

You seem to be agreeing and disagreeing at the same time. So which is it? Did you mean something idiotic like freedom from the terrible burden of other people expressing a different opinion to you?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #184 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 5:31am

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:31pm:

The full list of those that Folau warned were hell-bound included: drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters. But he offered a get-out clause – they could escape their fate if they repented. Well, perhaps most of them could – all but one of those alleged sins is matter of choice, so repentance may be an option.

But homosexuality is not a choice. Demanding repentance for what cannot change is both cruel and pointless – as silly as telling Folau to repent for having Polynesian heritage. This is where the offence lies: people, including young Christians trying to come to terms with their sexuality, are to be condemned to damnation. And because they are who they are, there can be no escape. It is a recipe for rejection, trauma and despair.

Working on that theme.
Perhaps other mentally ill groups should not be ostrasized and treated for what they are either.
Perhaps their mental illness is part of their nature and we should embrace it as we have the twisted 3%.

Bestiality
Sociopaths
Murderers
Thieves

Perhaps these people don't need help, they just need acceptance.

The twisted 3% are simply mentally ill.
Treat them as you do sociopaths and murderers and make our society healthy again.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #185 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:13am

Folau quoted the Bible and lost his job.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 2:38 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 17:30 King James Version (KJV)

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #186 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:25am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:13am:

Folau quoted the Bible and lost his job.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 2:38 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 17:30 King James Version (KJV)

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Oh dear....looks like he has a case after all.

I hear that the new fund has been "paused". What a crack up.....or is that, crack down?
Some people in high places are dead set on silencing the MAJORITY.
So good to see someone standing up against the faggots of this world. Disgusting psychologically disturbed fart sniffers need to be taken down off their high horse.
Be gay, who cares? But ffs the world doesn't need to know of your psychological disorder and the world has the right to speak out against you....after all, without hetros....you don't exist! 🖕

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #187 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:31am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Oh dear....looks like he has a case after all.

I hear that the new fund has been "paused". What a crack up.....or is that, crack down?
Some people in high places are dead set on silencing the MAJORITY.
So good to see someone standing up against the faggots of this world. Disgusting psychologically disturbed fart sniffers need to be taken down off their high horse.
Be gay, who cares? But ffs the world doesn't need to know of your psychological disorder and the world has the right to speak out against you....after all, without hetros....you don't exist!

I hope that eventually his contract will be ruled illegal
by perhaps the High Court.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #188 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:40am

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

What is unlawful termination?

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

temporary absence from work because of illness or injury (within the meaning of the Fair Work Regulations 2009)
trade union membership or participation in trade union activities outside working hours (or during working hours with the employer’s consent)
non-membership of a trade union
seeking office as, or acting or having acted in the capacity of, an employee representative
the filing of a complaint, or the participation in proceedings, against the employer involving alleged violation of laws or regulations or recourse to competent administrative authorities
race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, age, physical or mental disability, marital status, family or carer’s responsibilities, pregnancy, religion, political opinion, national extraction or social origin
absence from work during maternity leave or other parental leave
temporary absence from work for the purpose of engaging in a voluntary emergency management activity, where the absence is reasonable having regard to all the circumstances.

more here:
https://theconversation.com/why-the-israel-folau-case-could-set-an-important-pre...

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #189 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:45am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:13am:

Folau quoted the Bible and lost his job.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 2:38 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 17:30 King James Version (KJV)

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Oh dear....looks like he has a case after all.

I hear that the new fund has been "paused". What a crack up.....or is that, crack down?
Some people in high places are dead set on silencing the MAJORITY.
So good to see someone standing up against the faggots of this world. Disgusting psychologically disturbed fart sniffers need to be taken down off their high horse.
Be gay, who cares? But ffs the world doesn't need to know of your psychological disorder and the world has the right to speak out against you....after all, without hetros....you don't exist! 🖕

why did he leave so many out???.......GREED for instance.. Roll Eyes

I would think for sure those words were never spoken by any god of love.. there are a few versions of the bible...he seems to follow a less tolerant one that I did...

I dont know a thing about the church he belongs too....

but it seems to have a different take on what is meant by Christianity to me...

which is fine we wouldnt have so many churches if we all agreed....

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #190 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:52am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Oh dear....looks like he has a case after all.

I hear that the new fund has been "paused". What a crack up.....or is that, crack down?
Some people in high places are dead set on silencing the MAJORITY.
So good to see someone standing up against the faggots of this world. Disgusting psychologically disturbed fart sniffers need to be taken down off their high horse.
Be gay, who cares? But ffs the world doesn't need to know of your psychological disorder and the world has the right to speak out against you....after all, without hetros....you don't exist!

I hope that eventually his contract will be ruled illegal
by perhaps the High Court.

bobby his contract would have been read by his legal/manager.... he signed it hes 30 years old he signed it because he is greedy he wants the money....

as we know cyberspace can be an ugly place...

look at what is being written here about homosexuals...its appalling!

people you have never met....

who have never started a WAR
never flown planes into high buildings....
do not go around in gangs mugging old people with baseball bats.....
dont drive trucks into crowds..

yet are vilified by so called Christians... Angry

shame on you all.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #191 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:56am

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:52am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Oh dear....looks like he has a case after all.

I hear that the new fund has been "paused". What a crack up.....or is that, crack down?
Some people in high places are dead set on silencing the MAJORITY.
So good to see someone standing up against the faggots of this world. Disgusting psychologically disturbed fart sniffers need to be taken down off their high horse.
Be gay, who cares? But ffs the world doesn't need to know of your psychological disorder and the world has the right to speak out against you....after all, without hetros....you don't exist!

I hope that eventually his contract will be ruled illegal
by perhaps the High Court.

bobby his contract would have been read by his legal/manager.... he signed it hes 30 years old he signed it because he is greedy he wants the money....

as we know cyberspace can be an ugly place...

look at what is being written here about homosexuals...its appalling!

people you have never met....

who have never started a WAR
never flown planes into high buildings....
do not go around in gangs mugging old people with baseball bats.....
dont drive trucks into crowds..

yet are vilified by so called Christians... Angry

shame on you all.

But it was an unlawful termination
because it was based on religion & political opinion.

That's the law.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #192 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:06am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Falou's rights haven't been trampled on, he is still free to say what he likes. But he is not free from the consequences.

Exactly.

Well said.

Then the only solution is to ban religion.
Should the Govt. ban religion?
Should it be illegal to quote the Bible?

Solution to what, Bobby?

His rights haven't been trampled on.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

Yeah right - after he's lost his job. Cheesy

Yes.

After he lost his job, just like before he lost his job.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

So I ask again: solution to what?

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #193 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Falou's rights haven't been trampled on, he is still free to say what he likes. But he is not free from the consequences.

Exactly.

Well said.

Then the only solution is to ban religion.
Should the Govt. ban religion?
Should it be illegal to quote the Bible?

Solution to what, Bobby?

His rights haven't been trampled on.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

Yeah right - after he's lost his job. Cheesy

Yes.

After he lost his job, just like before he lost his job.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

So I ask again: solution to what?

It was an unlawful termination
because it was based on religion & political opinion.

That's the law.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #194 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:15am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Falou's rights haven't been trampled on, he is still free to say what he likes. But he is not free from the consequences.

Exactly.

Well said.

Then the only solution is to ban religion.
Should the Govt. ban religion?
Should it be illegal to quote the Bible?

Solution to what, Bobby?

His rights haven't been trampled on.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

Yeah right - after he's lost his job. Cheesy

Yes.

After he lost his job, just like before he lost his job.

He is still free to say whatever he likes.

So I ask again: solution to what?

It was an unlawful termination

No, it wasn't.

No matter how big you make the font.

The Bible is against eating sea creatures without fins or scales – essentially, no eating of bottom feeders.

This may have something to do with hygiene practices, or allergies even, but nonetheless, it’s a black and white rule: eat prawns, and you go straight to hell.

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