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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #210 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:03am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:52am:

My objection is to the extent to which an employer can govern what’s posted on a persons social page which has nothing at all to do with the employer or employment and further to that the legality of a contract that puts such control in an employers hands.

I agree that would suck. Thats not what happened here though.

I meant and should have said the interpretation of that...

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #211 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:27am

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

Greggy,
Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

Off topic spam, Bobby.

The fleecer wasn't sacked for his religious or political opinion.

He lost his job for posting this:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

Looks like religion and political opinion to me.

you know bobby..

a hypothetical... if you were gay would you look on that as a HATE speech?....what if you were an atheist???? why is it not ok for those who have been labeled to call it HATE........

why is it ok to be singled out by one persons interpretation of the Bible...one of the most conflicting misunderstood books since time began...

Dear Cods,
it doesn't matter what you or I think - it's the law.

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #212 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:32am religion is a separate category. Its not religious opinion, its religion.
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #213 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:34am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:27am:

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

Greggy,
Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

Off topic spam, Bobby.

The fleecer wasn't sacked for his religious or political opinion.

He lost his job for posting this:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

Looks like religion and political opinion to me.

you know bobby..

a hypothetical... if you were gay would you look on that as a HATE speech?....what if you were an atheist???? why is it not ok for those who have been labeled to call it HATE........

why is it ok to be singled out by one persons interpretation of the Bible...one of the most conflicting misunderstood books since time began...

Dear Cods,
it doesn't matter what you or I think - it's the law.

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

That hasn't happened, in this case.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #214 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:27am:

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

Greggy,
Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

Off topic spam, Bobby.

The fleecer wasn't sacked for his religious or political opinion.

He lost his job for posting this:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

Looks like religion and political opinion to me.

you know bobby..

a hypothetical... if you were gay would you look on that as a HATE speech?....what if you were an atheist???? why is it not ok for those who have been labeled to call it HATE........

why is it ok to be singled out by one persons interpretation of the Bible...one of the most conflicting misunderstood books since time began...

Dear Cods,
it doesn't matter what you or I think - it's the law.

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

That hasn't happened, in this case.

The termination was unlawful - Izzy will win the case.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #215 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:27am:

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

Greggy,
Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

Off topic spam, Bobby.

The fleecer wasn't sacked for his religious or political opinion.

He lost his job for posting this:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

Looks like religion and political opinion to me.

you know bobby..

a hypothetical... if you were gay would you look on that as a HATE speech?....what if you were an atheist???? why is it not ok for those who have been labeled to call it HATE........

why is it ok to be singled out by one persons interpretation of the Bible...one of the most conflicting misunderstood books since time began...

Dear Cods,
it doesn't matter what you or I think - it's the law.

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

That hasn't happened, in this case.

The termination was unlawful - Izzy will win the case.

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #216 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

Read the law:

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #217 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:45am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

Read the law:

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

Which as I said are different categories, its not religious opinion its religion.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #218 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:46am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

Read the law:

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

I have. Many times.

The difference between you and I though, is that I understand it - you do not.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #219 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:47am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:52am:

My objection is to the extent to which an employer can govern what’s posted on a persons social page which has nothing at all to do with the employer or employment and further to that the legality of a contract that puts such control in an employers hands.

I agree that would suck. Thats not what happened here though.

Here it is - the original.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2018C00512/Html/Volume_2#_Toc533167701

772 Employment not to be terminated on certain grounds

         (1) An employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following reasons, or for reasons including one or more of the following reasons:

                  (a) temporary absence from work because of illness or injury of a kind prescribed by the regulations;

                  (b) trade union membership or participation in trade union activities outside working hours or, with the employer’s consent, during working hours;

                  (c) non‑membership of a trade union;

                  (d) seeking office as, or acting or having acted in the capacity of, a representative of employees;

                  (e) the filing of a complaint, or the participation in proceedings, against an employer involving alleged violation of laws or regulations or recourse to competent administrative authorities;

                  (f) race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, age, physical or mental disability, marital status, family or carer’s responsibilities, pregnancy, religion, political opinion, national extraction or social origin;

                  (g) absence from work during maternity leave or other parental leave;

                  (h) temporary absence from work for the purpose of engaging in a voluntary emergency management activity, where the absence is reasonable having regard to all the circumstances.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #220 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:48am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

Read the law:

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

I have. Many times.

The difference between you and I though, is that I understand it - you do not.

Greggy - it's the LAW.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #221 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:57am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Nothing unlawful about it at all.

Read the law:

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination

Section 772 of the Act says that an employer must not terminate an employee’s employment
for one or more of the following unlawful reasons:

religion or political opinion.

I have. Many times.

The difference between you and I though, is that I understand it - you do not.

Greggy - it's the LAW.

Indeed.

Not applicable in this case, though.

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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #222 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:00am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 9:52am:

My objection is to the extent to which an employer can govern what’s posted on a persons social page which has nothing at all to do with the employer or employment and further to that the legality of a contract that puts such control in an employers hands.

I agree that would suck. Thats not what happened here though.

Here it is - the original.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2018C00512/Html/Volume_2#_Toc533167701

772 Employment not to be terminated on certain grounds

         (1) An employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following reasons, or for reasons including one or more of the following reasons:

                  (a) temporary absence from work because of illness or injury of a kind prescribed by the regulations;

                  (b) trade union membership or participation in trade union activities outside working hours or, with the employer’s consent, during working hours;

                  (c) non‑membership of a trade union;

                  (d) seeking office as, or acting or having acted in the capacity of, a representative of employees;

                  (e) the filing of a complaint, or the participation in proceedings, against an employer involving alleged violation of laws or regulations or recourse to competent administrative authorities;

                  (f) race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, age, physical or mental disability, marital status, family or carer’s responsibilities, pregnancy, religion, political opinion, national extraction or social origin;

                  (g) absence from work during maternity leave or other parental leave;

                  (h) temporary absence from work for the purpose of engaging in a voluntary emergency management activity, where the absence is reasonable having regard to all the circumstances.

Not religious opinion. They haven't sacked him because he's a Christian or a Labor voter.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107138 Melbourne Gender:	Re: New donation page Folau Reply #223 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:05am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:00am: Not religious opinion. They haven't sacked him because he's a Christian or a Labor voter. They sacked him for this:
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Re: New donation page Folau
Reply #224 - Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:06am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Not religious opinion. They haven't sacked him because he's a Christian or a Labor voter.

They sacked him for this:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-05/17/2/campaign_images/buz...

Which is neither his religion or political opinion.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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