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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #135 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:07pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

Israel Folau is a victim of his own stupidity and deserves no public support.

Sponsors would have dropped RA for years over this issue if RA did not fire Israel Folau.

There is no excuse for religious extremists.

Folau an extremist? Grin

Not as extreme as you are a wanker.

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Reply #136 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:12pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:36am:

Only in the eyes of a homofascist.

Do you think if you make up some dumb word and repeat it often enough it becomes more relevant? Anyone who is a fan of rugby knows Falau plays for Australia. Are they all homofascists?

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:36am:

Threats are not actual harm.

so as a business man you'd wait until your customers all left before taking action? Seriously, you couldn't make up a more stupid comment if you'd tried.

Ask yourself about your use of the made up weasel word "Islamophobe".

Want to explain the difference?

Or are you just being a hypocrite?

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #137 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:12pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:43am:

Israel Folau is a victim of his own stupidity and deserves no public support.

Sponsors would have dropped RA for years over this issue if RA did not fire Israel Folau.

There is no excuse for religious extremists.

Folau an extremist? Grin

Not as extreme as you are a wanker.

He is certainly a naive fundamentalist. Because the Bible says so it must be. If the Quran says so......it must not be.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #138 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:18pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:11am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

FFS, cods it about freedom of speach not poofters!

no it's not. It's about breaching the terms of contract he signed

No it's about RA searching their policy and finding they were not able to discriminate against him on religious grounds/views so they went to another section to find a clause that they could use to override the religious anti-discrimination clause to sack him.

Took a good while too .... why wasn't that acted on straight away?

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #139 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:23pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:11am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

FFS, cods it about freedom of speach not poofters!

no it's not. It's about breaching the terms of contract he signed

No it's about RA searching their policy and finding they were not able to discriminate against him on religious grounds/views so they went to another section to find a clause that they could use to override the religious anti-discrimination clause to sack him.

Took a good while too .... why wasn't that acted on straight away?

What makes you say it wasn't?

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29250 Gender:	Re: Rugby Australia blames the government Reply #140 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:31pm It wasn't. It took months.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38518 Gender:	Re: Rugby Australia blames the government Reply #141 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:37pm Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:31pm: It wasn't. It took months. For what?
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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #142 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:40pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 1:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

If he did it at work or claimed to be representing my business, sure.

If he is publicly recognised as an employee of yours, he's representing you. It matters not if he claims to with every post he makes on social media.

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Folau did not harm Rugby Australia, the homofascists tried to, but I don't see any harm yet.

and yet their sponsors, who provide them with millions of dollars annually, were threatening to walk. I'd say that classifies as 'harming RA', don't you?

Your employer does not own you body and soul 24/7.

This belief that they do has to be stamped out.

Unless it's criminal matters they shouldn't have case.

save the hysterics for someone else. No one said your employer owned your body and soul.

Folau made an agreement then he reneged on it. It's really that simple.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #143 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:48pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:36am:

Only in the eyes of a homofascist.

Do you think if you make up some dumb word and repeat it often enough it becomes more relevant? Anyone who is a fan of rugby knows Falau plays for Australia. Are they all homofascists?

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:36am:

Threats are not actual harm.

so as a business man you'd wait until your customers all left before taking action? Seriously, you couldn't make up a more stupid comment if you'd tried.

Ask yourself about your use of the made up weasel word "Islamophobe".

Want to explain the difference?

Or are you just being a hypocrite?

There is nothing made up about Islamophobe. It's in the dictionary. Look it up one day Cheesy

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #144 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 1:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

If he did it at work or claimed to be representing my business, sure.

If he is publicly recognised as an employee of yours, he's representing you. It matters not if he claims to with every post he makes on social media.

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Folau did not harm Rugby Australia, the homofascists tried to, but I don't see any harm yet.

and yet their sponsors, who provide them with millions of dollars annually, were threatening to walk. I'd say that classifies as 'harming RA', don't you?

Your employer does not own you body and soul 24/7.

This belief that they do has to be stamped out.

Unless it's criminal matters they shouldn't have case.

save the hysterics for someone else. No one said your employer owned your body and soul.

Folau made an agreement then he reneged on it. It's really that simple.

The code of conduct is core company policy.

We may have seen excerpts of that policy that was used ....

but we haven't seen Folaus actual contract.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #145 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:11am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

FFS, cods it about freedom of speach not poofters!

no it's not. It's about breaching the terms of contract he signed

No it's about RA searching their policy and finding they were not able to discriminate against him on religious grounds/views so they went to another section to find a clause that they could use to override the religious anti-discrimination clause to sack him.

Took a good while too .... why wasn't that acted on straight away?

They didn't have to search anything, they put this clause into his contract specifically because it had happened before with Folau. They knew exactly where it was.

And there was nothing wrong with how they reacted.

After being made aware of Folaus post they tried to contact him for several days to get his side of the story, but he refused to answer his phone. When they did eventually contact him they called a meeting to give him a chance to defend himself. Not satisfied with the result of that meeting, they sacked him.

I'd be more concerned if they did react straight away

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74217 Gender:	Re: Rugby Australia blames the government Reply #146 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:52pm Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:31pm: It wasn't. It took months. rubbish ... it took less than a week.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38518 Gender:	Re: Rugby Australia blames the government Reply #147 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:53pm Gonads: Quote: but we haven't seen Folaus actual contract. So....why are you saying he did not breach a document you have not seen? In any event, he breached the Code......after having been given a warning the first time he did so.
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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #148 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:56pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 1:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

If he did it at work or claimed to be representing my business, sure.

If he is publicly recognised as an employee of yours, he's representing you. It matters not if he claims to with every post he makes on social media.

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Folau did not harm Rugby Australia, the homofascists tried to, but I don't see any harm yet.

and yet their sponsors, who provide them with millions of dollars annually, were threatening to walk. I'd say that classifies as 'harming RA', don't you?

Your employer does not own you body and soul 24/7.

This belief that they do has to be stamped out.

Unless it's criminal matters they shouldn't have case.

save the hysterics for someone else. No one said your employer owned your body and soul.

Folau made an agreement then he reneged on it. It's really that simple.

The code of conduct is core company policy.

We may have seen excerpts of that policy that was used ....

but we haven't seen Folaus actual contract.

I don't need to see the date, amounts or signatures. If that clause was in his contract, he fuqed up. I see no reason to doubt it was in there. Even Folau isn't making that claim.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #149 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 2:56pm: