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Reply #30 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:59am

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cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

everyone has an opinion.... its normal.. I think these constant attacks on gays is not normal....

just my opinion. Roll Eyes

This is bigger than Israel Folau': RA chair opens fire

ABSOLUTELY!

How is this an attack on gays? Saying that in his view they would go to hell should give them a good laugh - then move on - but no, the precious ones must make a big to-do about it.

What about the constant attacks by gays on others who don't agree with their lifestyle - this being a perfect example? Cool

Don't really think this makes any sense since gay's like everyone else don't all have the same lifestyle.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #31 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:02pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Maybe people will stop flying Quantas and send a message to the head fart sniffing lying piece of garbage.

Of course joyce was behind it all. Where else would it come from?
It is so good to see this blow up in their face.

Already done. Will not support this airline. Same as no longer supporting the AFL and any number of businesses who have deliberately over stepped their role in society.

Sick of being lectured to by self appointed righteous virtue signalling numpties.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #32 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:02pm

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:37am:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

Has anyone managed to make sense of the double speak from Qantas CEO Alan Joyce? He denied pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired, then followed it up by basically admitting that he threatened to pull Qantas sponsorship if they did not 'fix' the problem the same way he demanded Cricket Australia fix the ball tampering saga.

no havent read it to be honest....yes if you threaten anyone you are provoking I would think...

perhaps he needs to take a step back and not use his position as a weapon...

sponsors have a right to distance themselves from controversy but thats where it should end...

I think Alan Joyce is doing far more harm to Qantas' reputation than Folau. There seems to be a culture of this sort of double speak in Qantas and I have personally seen them use it to rip people off.

His double speak about pulling the string to get Folau fired is in the OP.

he is very proud of Qanta and its name and so he should be....double speak....really he is trying to explain what its like to be a sponsor of such elitist sport... and sportsmen and women.....

if you paid millions to an organisation that used your NAME wouldnt you want your name protected if a member used it to claim all paedos are innocent.????

come on fd...

Sponsorship is in order to have your company name out there for public viewing - advertising pure and simple. This storm in a teacup should have been let go - now it has become a rallying point for those sick of PC rubbish being pushed on them endlessly.

If dopey Joyce wants to throw his weight around - by all means withdraw your paid advertising on Wallaby jumpers - let someone else in .... but your advertising doesn't give you any right to dictate.

I know what I do with ultimatums.... Cool

I apologise for Izzy not including paedos in his abbreviated list.... Cool

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #33 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:03pm

Rider wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:02pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Maybe people will stop flying Quantas and send a message to the head fart sniffing lying piece of garbage.

Of course joyce was behind it all. Where else would it come from?
It is so good to see this blow up in their face.

Already done. Will not support this airline. Same as no longer supporting the AFL and any number of businesses who have deliberately over stepped their role in society.

Sick of being lectured to by self appointed righteous virtue signalling numpties.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #34 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:03pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

everyone has an opinion.... its normal.. I think these constant attacks on gays is not normal....

just my opinion. Roll Eyes

This is bigger than Israel Folau': RA chair opens fire

ABSOLUTELY!

How is this an attack on gays? Saying that in his view they would go to hell should give them a good laugh - then move on - but no, the precious ones must make a big to-do about it.

What about the constant attacks by gays on others who don't agree with their lifestyle - this being a perfect example? Cool

Don't really think this makes any sense since gay's like everyone else don't all have the same lifestyle.

Spot

They have a generalised and over-arching lifestyle choice of gayism as opposed to heterosexuality... simple really.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #35 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:03pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:02pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:37am:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

Has anyone managed to make sense of the double speak from Qantas CEO Alan Joyce? He denied pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired, then followed it up by basically admitting that he threatened to pull Qantas sponsorship if they did not 'fix' the problem the same way he demanded Cricket Australia fix the ball tampering saga.

no havent read it to be honest....yes if you threaten anyone you are provoking I would think...

perhaps he needs to take a step back and not use his position as a weapon...

sponsors have a right to distance themselves from controversy but thats where it should end...

I think Alan Joyce is doing far more harm to Qantas' reputation than Folau. There seems to be a culture of this sort of double speak in Qantas and I have personally seen them use it to rip people off.

His double speak about pulling the string to get Folau fired is in the OP.

he is very proud of Qanta and its name and so he should be....double speak....really he is trying to explain what its like to be a sponsor of such elitist sport... and sportsmen and women.....

if you paid millions to an organisation that used your NAME wouldnt you want your name protected if a member used it to claim all paedos are innocent.????

come on fd...

Sponsorship is in order to have your company name out there for public viewing - advertising pure and simple. This storm in a teacup should have been let go - now it has become a rallying point for those sick of PC rubbish being pushed on them endlessly.

If dopey Joyce wants to throw his weight around - by all means withdraw your paid advertising on Wallaby jumpers - let someone else in .... but your advertising doesn't give you any right to dictate.

I know what I do with ultimatums.... Cool

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #36 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm

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Many have asked -- although there have been few responses -- how this became a gay issue?

Where are those championing adultery, for instance?

Where are those taking up arms in defence of idolators, liars, murderers and all the others who were itemised by Folau as nominated in the Bible ?

No one taking offence on their behalf?

why?

Folau didn't single out gays, he was simply citing and paraphrasing something from the Bible

but all we seem to hear about is 'gays'

as usual

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #37 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:59am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:35am:

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do you think someone who calls himself a Christian has the right to claim who he believes will go to HELL.....

Of course they have that right cods.

Do you think they don't?

And as has been pointed out to non-Christian Cods repeatedly, Folau's comment included,

'unless they repent and turn their face to God'

Cods wants to pretend she hasn't been advised of that, for some reason

Folau was citing his holy book, the Bible, from whence his comments came

Folau was NOT personally condemning anyone, as he has repeatedly said

Folau was citing the authority of his God as cited in his holy book, the Bible

Jews cite THEIR holy books when they claim gentiles were created to be slaves for the jews

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT?

Muslims cite THEIR holy books --- and WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT?

So clearly, this is an anti-Christian beat-up being pushed by the 96% owned and controlled mass media and powerful and influential others

AND AUSTRALIA HAS SPOKEN

yes

AUSTRALIA HAS SPOKEN FROM ITS POCKET

Good on you, Aussies Smiley

you said it yourself pz its Christian bashing... Roll Eyes

I dont give a stuff what he believes in and what he says.....

but if I asked him and got him to sign a contract that said he wouldnt plaster his beliefs on the internet.....

and he went ahead anyway... I would be more than angry...

I dont care what he believes the bible says...I am not religious in any way or form....

I dont believe any god would send anyone to HELL either... lets say my god... if I have one..

mate folau was paid millions to do that he signed a contract...

forget about the content of his comments....ask about the contract he signed...... all those who donated want his contract reinstated so he can go back to playing for Australia and get more millions and keep posting on instagram......

is that what you want for every aussie who signs a contract????.......they change their minds so lets get it torn up.... Roll Eyes

I trust you get your monies worth pz..I am sure Folau's QC will love every penny.

What cods said ^^^^^^^.

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #38 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:02pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:37am:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

Has anyone managed to make sense of the double speak from Qantas CEO Alan Joyce? He denied pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired, then followed it up by basically admitting that he threatened to pull Qantas sponsorship if they did not 'fix' the problem the same way he demanded Cricket Australia fix the ball tampering saga.

no havent read it to be honest....yes if you threaten anyone you are provoking I would think...

perhaps he needs to take a step back and not use his position as a weapon...

sponsors have a right to distance themselves from controversy but thats where it should end...

I think Alan Joyce is doing far more harm to Qantas' reputation than Folau. There seems to be a culture of this sort of double speak in Qantas and I have personally seen them use it to rip people off.

His double speak about pulling the string to get Folau fired is in the OP.

he is very proud of Qanta and its name and so he should be....double speak....really he is trying to explain what its like to be a sponsor of such elitist sport... and sportsmen and women.....

if you paid millions to an organisation that used your NAME wouldnt you want your name protected if a member used it to claim all paedos are innocent.????

come on fd...

Sponsorship is in order to have your company name out there for public viewing - advertising pure and simple. This storm in a teacup should have been let go - now it has become a rallying point for those sick of PC rubbish being pushed on them endlessly.

If dopey Joyce wants to throw his weight around - by all means withdraw your paid advertising on Wallaby jumpers - let someone else in .... but your advertising doesn't give you any right to dictate.

I know what I do with ultimatums.... Cool

I apologise for Izzy not including paedos in his abbreviated list.... Cool

some of us would appreciate him puting GRUMPY OLD MEN on his list...

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #39 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:59am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 10:35am:

Quote:

do you think someone who calls himself a Christian has the right to claim who he believes will go to HELL.....

Of course they have that right cods.

Do you think they don't?

And as has been pointed out to non-Christian Cods repeatedly, Folau's comment included,

'unless they repent and turn their face to God'

Cods wants to pretend she hasn't been advised of that, for some reason

Folau was citing his holy book, the Bible, from whence his comments came

Folau was NOT personally condemning anyone, as he has repeatedly said

Folau was citing the authority of his God as cited in his holy book, the Bible

Jews cite THEIR holy books when they claim gentiles were created to be slaves for the jews

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT?

Muslims cite THEIR holy books --- and WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT?

So clearly, this is an anti-Christian beat-up being pushed by the 96% owned and controlled mass media and powerful and influential others

AND AUSTRALIA HAS SPOKEN

yes

AUSTRALIA HAS SPOKEN FROM ITS POCKET

Good on you, Aussies Smiley

you said it yourself pz its Christian bashing... Roll Eyes

I dont give a stuff what he believes in and what he says.....

but if I asked him and got him to sign a contract that said he wouldnt plaster his beliefs on the internet.....

and he went ahead anyway... I would be more than angry...

I dont care what he believes the bible says...I am not religious in any way or form....

I dont believe any god would send anyone to HELL either... lets say my god... if I have one..

mate folau was paid millions to do that he signed a contract...

forget about the content of his comments....ask about the contract he signed...... all those who donated want his contract reinstated so he can go back to playing for Australia and get more millions and keep posting on instagram......

is that what you want for every aussie who signs a contract????.......they change their minds so lets get it torn up.... Roll Eyes

I trust you get your monies worth pz..I am sure Folau's QC will love every penny.

What cods said ^^^^^^^.

trust you, greg

can't stop stirring to save yourself

but one day you'll be sweating in order to save yourself

and that gets closer with every minute

Now go read my response to Cods -- all very civil and considered

and stop picking your nose, you'll get sepsis

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #41 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:13pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

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Many have asked -- although there have been few responses -- how this became a gay issue?

Where are those championing adultery, for instance?

Where are those taking up arms in defence of idolators, liars, murderers and all the others who were itemised by Folau as nominated in the Bible ?

No one taking offence on their behalf?

why?

Folau didn't single out gays, he was simply citing and paraphrasing something from the Bible

but all we seem to hear about is 'gays'

as usual

its mainly on this forum and probably others pz.....we have a few who are afraid of homosexuals for reasons known only to themselves...

to me they are a pretty harmless group....

they dont want to change the English language to suit them.. or win womens gold medals in sport... Roll Eyes

why Israel singled out that group you would need to ask him...

the rest could be anyone of us.... Roll Eyes

ask yourself who did he leave off and WHY...

paedos trannies...are these not sinners?...if you are calling all LIARS to repent...omg...where would you start? Roll Eyes

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #42 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:10pm:

As for the Thread Title...I see no blaming of the Government. I see that RA satys it was contacted by Government. How is that a 'blaming?'

As for Joyce. It is possible for both statements to stand consistently. That is...."QANTAS expressed concern. We did not ask that Folau be sacked."

So tell me --- and no hedging

did qantas express concern for liars, adulterers, idolators and all those contained within Folau's actually FEW comments ?

I wanna know

does Qantas take umbrage on behalf of thieves, those who commit adultery, who lie, who bear false witness or any of the other transgressors in Folau's comments which were drawn from the Bible?

Is Qantas a supporter of liars and adulterers, etc.?

the paying public NEEDS to know

How come Joyce didn't mention the other transgressors ?

Get onto it. Find out. Get back to us pronto

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #43 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:15pm

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

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Many have asked -- although there have been few responses -- how this became a gay issue?

Where are those championing adultery, for instance?

Where are those taking up arms in defence of idolators, liars, murderers and all the others who were itemised by Folau as nominated in the Bible ?

No one taking offence on their behalf?

why?

Folau didn't single out gays, he was simply citing and paraphrasing something from the Bible

but all we seem to hear about is 'gays'

as usual

its mainly on this forum and probably others pz.....we have a few who are afraid of homosexuals for reasons known only to themselves...

to me they are a pretty harmless group....

they dont want to change the English language to suit them.. or win womens gold medals in sport... Roll Eyes

why Israel singled out that group you would need to ask him...

the rest could be anyone of us.... Roll Eyes

ask yourself who did he leave off and WHY...

paedos trannies...are these not sinners?...if you are calling all LIARS to repent...omg...where would you start? Roll Eyes

He didn't - he threw them in with all the other endangered by god species..... though he didn't have the space for a totally inclusive group....

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Re: Rugby Australia blames the government
Reply #44 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

.
Many have asked -- although there have been few responses -- how this became a gay issue?

Where are those championing adultery, for instance?

Where are those taking up arms in defence of idolators, liars, murderers and all the others who were itemised by Folau as nominated in the Bible ?

No one taking offence on their behalf?

why?

Folau didn't single out gays, he was simply citing and paraphrasing something from the Bible

but all we seem to hear about is 'gays'

as usual

its mainly on this forum and probably others pz.....we have a few who are afraid of homosexuals for reasons known only to themselves...

to me they are a pretty harmless group....

they dont want to change the English language to suit them.. or win womens gold medals in sport... Roll Eyes

why Israel singled out that group you would need to ask him...

the rest could be anyone of us.... Roll Eyes

ask yourself who did he leave off and WHY...

paedos trannies...are these not sinners?...if you are calling all LIARS to repent...omg...where would you start? Roll Eyes

He didn't - he threw them in with all the other endangered by god species..... though he didn't have the space for a totally inclusive group....

he could have squeezed in GRUMPY OLD MEN<>

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