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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38864 Gender:	Re: freedom from religion Reply #105 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:37pm Quote: Inventing a code of conduct that forbids expressing his religious beliefs does not mean he was not fired for expressing his religious beliefs, just that you are a spineless apologist for the homofascists. Inventing? Huh.....it was there. Real.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35587 Gender:	Re: freedom from religion Reply #106 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:40pm An excellent read: :Let me speak freely: our freedom of speech 'crisis' is culture warriors' codswallop Everyone stop, and repeat after me: There is no crisis of free speech. Freedom of religion has not been suppressed. Political correctness has not gone mad.
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Reply #107 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:48pm

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:40pm:

An excellent read:

:Let me speak freely: our freedom of speech 'crisis' is culture warriors' codswallop

Everyone stop, and repeat after me: There is no crisis of free speech. Freedom of religion has not been suppressed. Political correctness has not gone mad.

From the Link....(Nothing new as it has been said here already....but...still.....well put.)

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In any case, it simply isn’t true that Folau’s religious freedoms have been fundamentally encroached. Folau can still say what he likes about homosexuals and sinners. It’s just that saying that may come with consequences. That’s not free speech being unjustly restrained. That’s Folau choosing his religious conviction over his contractual obligations. A choice he is free to make. It’s hard to see how Folau is a victim.

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Reply #108 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:48pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:37pm:

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Inventing a code of conduct that forbids expressing his religious beliefs does not mean he was not fired for expressing his religious beliefs, just that you are a spineless apologist for the homofascists.

Inventing? Huh.....it was there. Real.

You are confused again Aussie.

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Reply #109 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:53pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:37pm:

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Inventing a code of conduct that forbids expressing his religious beliefs does not mean he was not fired for expressing his religious beliefs, just that you are a spineless apologist for the homofascists.

Inventing? Huh.....it was there. Real.

You are confused again Aussie.

I guess you have your back against the Wall...yet again...when you pull out the 'you are confused' card.

I reckon RA's Code of Conduct was existing, not invented when Folau, last year, signed up for $M4 over four years.

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Reply #110 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:11pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Have any of them asked you to speak on their behalf?

yes Bobby. He doesn't want to be vilified.

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Who did Folau harass and bully?

Gays, amongst others

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Does their butthurt mean Folau was not expressing his religious views when he expressed his religious views?

Again, with the repetitive questions. Is it because you've run out of anything else to say?

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Inventing a code of conduct

are there any employment contracts that weren't invented? Cheesy

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Reply #111 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:14pm

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:40pm:

An excellent read:

:Let me speak freely: our freedom of speech 'crisis' is culture warriors' codswallop

Everyone stop, and repeat after me: There is no crisis of free speech. Freedom of religion has not been suppressed. Political correctness has not gone mad.

I thought this bit described FD perfectly

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Find an incident. Turn it into a cause celebre. Confect outrage. Amplify and repeat for effect.

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Reply #112 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:37pm:

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Inventing a code of conduct that forbids expressing his religious beliefs does not mean he was not fired for expressing his religious beliefs, just that you are a spineless apologist for the homofascists.

Inventing? Huh.....it was there. Real.

You are confused again Aussie.

I guess you have your back against the Wall...yet again...when you pull out the 'you are confused' card.

I reckon RA's Code of Conduct was existing, not invented when Folau, last year, signed up for $M4 over four years.

Invented and real are not mutually exclusive Aussie. You are getting hung up on something trivial that I did not actually say.

Hence, you are confused. Again.

John Smith wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Who did Folau harass and bully?

Gays, amongst others

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Does their butthurt mean Folau was not expressing his religious views when he expressed his religious views?

Again, with the repetitive questions. Is it because you've run out of anything else to say?

Just clarifying you really are saying something that stupid.

So posting your own views on your own facebook feed is now harassing and bullying people?

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are there any employment contracts that weren't invented?

My point had nothing to do with the fact it is invented.

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Find an incident. Turn it into a cause celebre. Confect outrage. Amplify and repeat for effect.

The homofascists turned it into a cause celbre by getting Folau fired for expressing his religious views. No-one forced them to get all hysterical about it. The fornicators managed to control themselves. As did the thieves, drunks and all the others on his list.

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Reply #113 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:48pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Just clarifying you really are saying something that stupid.

Do you really think making dumb comments like that every time you get called out for asking your question for the 100th times help you? Cheesy

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm:

So posting your own views on your own facebook feed is now harassing and bullying people?

Yes. By the very nature of facebook, it's not restricted to his own facebook feed now is it. That's the whole reason they post it on facebook.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75246 Gender:	Re: freedom from religion Reply #114 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:50pm I wish you'd stop changing your comments after I reply. freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm: My point had nothing to do with the fact it is invented. yet you were the one going on about it being invented
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75246 Gender:	Re: freedom from religion Reply #115 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:51pm freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm: The homofascists turned it into a cause celbre by getting Folau fired for expressing his religious views. so now you're calling folau a homofascist?
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Reply #116 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:50pm:

I wish you'd stop changing your comments after I reply.

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:42pm:

My point had nothing to do with the fact it is invented.

yet you were the one going on about it being invented

Try reading it John. It's really not that complicated:

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Inventing a code of conduct that forbids expressing his religious beliefs does not mean he was not fired for expressing his religious beliefs, just that you are a spineless apologist for the homofascists.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75246 Gender:	Re: freedom from religion Reply #117 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:57pm freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:55pm: Try reading it John. It's really not that complicated: I've read it several times FD. Thanks for your suggestion anyway. My comment doesn't change. You were the one going on about it being invented.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: freedom from religion Reply #118 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 10:00pm By "going on about it" you mean I used the term once? You and Aussie thought you were onto something, didn't you? Or were you merely that desperate to change the topic that idiocy became preferable to honesty?
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Reply #119 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 10:09pm

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 10:00pm:

By "going on about it" you mean I used the term once? You and Aussie thought you were onto something, didn't you? Or were you merely that desperate to change the topic that idiocy became preferable to honesty?

you thought it relevant that it was invented did you not FD? You must have, otherwise why would anyone mention that a work contract is invented and not a naturally occurring event?

That you are still going on about it suggests that it's you changing the topic, not me. I'm just replying to what you write.

Perhaps I should ignore what you write and pretend you said something else' and reply to that? The way you usually do!

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