Aussie wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:


I did not claim it was absolute in Folau's case. Just that he was fired for his religious views - contrary to law and any principled approach to freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc.

Do you think people have some kind of right to not hear opinions they dislike?

I don't see much point in 'establishing' the bleeding obvious.

Do you think people have some kind of right to not hear opinions they dislike?

Was the statement Folau made about who goes to hell a religious view?

RA examplifies the utter hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy and essential contradictory nature of identity politics and PC pieties:




Rugby Australia Chief Executive, Raelene Castle and NSW Rugby Union CEO, Andrew Hore have issued the following statement in relation to Israel Folau.

"Rugby Australia and the New South Wales Rugby Union have made repeated attempts to contact Israel both directly and via his representatives since 6.30pm on Wednesday, and at this point he has failed to communicate directly with either organisation.

"Whilst Israel is entitled to his religious beliefs, the way in which he has expressed these beliefs is inconsistent with the values of the sport. We want to make it clear that he does not speak for the game with his recent social media posts.

"Israel has failed to understand that the expectation of him as a Rugby Australia and NSW Waratahs employee is that he cannot share material on social media that condemns, vilifies or discriminates against people on the basis of their sexuality.

"Rugby is a sport that continuously works to unite people. We want everyone to feel safe and welcome in our game and no vilification based on race, gender, religion or sexuality is acceptable and no language that isolates, divides or insults people based on any of those factors can be tolerated.   

"As a code we have made it clear to Israel formally and repeatedly that any social media posts or commentary that is in any way disrespectful to people because of their sexuality will result in disciplinary action.

"In the absence of compelling mitigating factors, it is our intention to terminate his contract."
https://australia.rugby/news/2019/04/11/rugby-australia-and-nsw-rugby-union-stat...



Big Gay trumps religion, race, gender, drunkenness, atheism, friskiness - everything. You have to love Big Gay or else.



The Australian National Imams Council, of which Sheik ­Alsuleiman is president, has at least three executive members who believe the only punishment for homosexuality is the death penalty, according to Islamic law.

Imam Yusuf Peer, the chairman of the Council of Imams Queensland, who is a member of the national peak body, told The Weekend Australian yesterday that it was “not permissible” to be gay and Muslim.

“But we do not have a problem with the people themselves, just the act and ideology,” Imam Peer said. “But this is what the sharia law says and we have to follow that. There is no way around that. When we are talking about gays, we have to be confident (they are gay) and there must be a lot of ­investigating.”

When asked if sharia ­required death, Imam Peer said: “Yes.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/nation/imams-line-up-to-condemn-homosexu...

Any Muslims playing rugby?

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 7:32pm:


I have seriously overestimated you Effendi.  What sort of quantum leap is that?  You have established no such thing. 

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:22pm:


By expressing his religious views.

Having a bit of paper to justify what you do does not mean you aren't actually doing it.

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:


just like having a bit of paper that says you have a right to free speech doesn't actually mean you have such a right