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Aug 2nd, 2019 at 1:20pm
 
No! No more soup for you.

Just accept it and stop whining as wage growth stalls and employment is likely to fall as Trump tariffs bite China.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-02/eba-growth-slowing-wage-growth-as-pay-ris...

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Wage weakness deepens as EBAs slide, locking in low pay rises for years
by business reporter Stephen Letts

Don't bank on a wage rise this year. Expect rate cuts instead
Australia's slow wage growth is becoming more deeply entrenched, with the latest batch of enterprise bargaining agreements falling across the board.

Key points:
EBAs delivered annual rises of just 2.7pc in the first quarter, down from the recent peak of 3.2pc last year
EBAs tend to hold for three years and are often seen as a forward indicator of wage growth
Public sector EBAs were generally lower than private sector gains, affected by wage caps and tighter budgetary measures
The average annual wage increase (AAWI) granted in new EBAs in the first quarter this year was 2.7 per cent.

This is a sharp decline from the 3.2 per cent AAWI increase in the third quarter of 2018 — the strongest negotiated wage growth reported over the past two years.

Why is wage growth so low?
Why is Australia experiencing its slowest wages growth since World War Two? There are countless theories, but many come back to a shift in power between workers and employers.
Analysis of data released by the Attorney-General's Department on newly approved deals shows wage rises weakened in both the public and private sectors.

Private sector EBA pay rises slipped from 3 to 2.9 per cent over the March quarter, with the public sector experiencing a larger 0.3 percentage point drop from 2.7 to 2.4 per cent.

It's far from the 3.5 per cent outcome the Reserve Bank has said it is aiming for in its agitation to drive wages and inflation higher.

Weakness going forward
ANZ economist Catherine Birch said EBAs tend to be forward-looking and give an idea where wages are heading.

"With EBA's standard practice being three-year agreements, new ones locking in lower outcomes point to slowing wage growth," Ms Birch said.

Ms Birch noted the average annual wage rise in new enterprise bargaining agreements taken over the past two quarters had slowed to 2.7 per cent.

"This suggests that the gradual improvement we have seen in wages since 2017 may falter, particularly given the recent rise in underutilisation, supporting the need for another rate cut in 2019," she said.

"The reversal in the direction of wage growth across the EBA and GDP measures suggests that the gradual improvement we have seen in the wage price index could fade."

A graph showing EBA wage outcomes over time
INFOGRAPHIC: The average raise in new enterprise bargaining agreements has slowed to 2.7pc over the past two quarters (Source: ANZ Research, Attorney General's Department)
Public/private divide
Jim Stanford, director of the Australia Institute's Centre for Future Work, said the report confirms that the wage slowdown in Australia is getting worse, not better.

"The gap between negotiated wage increases in the public and private sectors continues to grow, as the wage caps imposed by governments in many jurisdictions — including the Commonwealth, with its 2 per cent cap — continue to bite," Dr Stanford said.

At the state government level, budgets are increasingly under pressure — particularly in New South Wales and Victoria — as stamp duty revenues dwindle, eroded by the property market grinding lower.

Hanging by a thread
Jobs are about the only thing keeping recession at bay, but with unemployment rising, so are the risks.
Results across the sectors were mixed.

Agricultural workers and those in the media had the worst outcomes, with AAWIs of just 2.2 per cent.

While construction workers had the strongest outcome with an annual wage increase of 3.7 per cent for EBAs signed over the March quarter.

On the flip side, they also experienced the sharpest deterioration, down from the 6 per cent result in the December quarter.

Ms Birch said the construction sector was "a bit of a puzzle".

"While construction EBAs had been quite strong until now, the wage price index [for construction] has been the slowest across the sectors over the past year," she said.

"The contraction on the residential side is part of the story, but infrastructure should be coming through and there still appears to be skill shortages."

EBAs by industry

Dr Stanford said the report also points to the unions' weakening grasp on driving wage growth.

"This report confirms that the power of unions to win higher wage increases continues to erode, in the face of employer and government opposition to unions and collective bargaining, and a very hostile legal and regulatory environment," he said.

Struck out
Record low wage growth isn't exactly prompting workers to strike. In fact, workplace disputes are at record lows.
Dr Stanford said almost half of all workers covered by newly approved enterprise agreements in the March quarter had "non-quantifiable" wage increases.

"What that means is their wage gains are not specified in the deal, but rather are tied to things like future increases in the minimum wage, or changes in award wages," he said.

"That's an unusually high proportion [45.5 per cent] of workers whose EAs don't directly specify a wage increase
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 3:26pm:
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You have evidently confused messer with messiah.
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Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.
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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:59am
 
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


well it is a fairly serious problem for the majority of Australians.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:59am:
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


well it is a fairly serious problem for the majority of Australians.


Coalition got what it wanted - lower wages.
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Low, stagnant, or falling wages is good news for the wealthy. It means inflation is not eroding their wealth.
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Reply #7 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:21pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


And whilst they sit on their arses and complain nothing will change for them
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Low, stagnant, or falling wages is good news for the wealthy. It means inflation is not eroding their wealth.


Poor productivity erodes it instead, with even poorer outcomes.
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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:26pm
 
stunspore wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:59am:
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


well it is a fairly serious problem for the majority of Australians.


Coalition got what it wanted - lower wages.

You're a goose if you believe anybody supports poor wages growth.
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:59am:
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


well it is a fairly serious problem for the majority of Australians.

It's serious for everybody.
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:46pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.

The futility isn't in the whinging. It is in the rubbish peddled by the likes of Letts who is well overdue to revise his textbooks. All this EBA stuff, bargaining power and stagnant wages have their roots in two decades of declining productivity. This is what should be addressed first. No amount of bleating or being Oliver with the porridge bowl will cause wages to grow while productivity declines.
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Reply #12 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:50pm
 
crocodile wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:26pm:
stunspore wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:59am:
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2019 at 4:54pm:
Gosh not ANOTHER one of these futile wage thingies.


well it is a fairly serious problem for the majority of Australians.


Coalition got what it wanted - lower wages.

You're a goose if you believe anybody supports poor wages growth.

Employers do. Poor wages growth doesn't just happen. It's caused by employers deciding not to pay them.
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crocodile wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:25pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Low, stagnant, or falling wages is good news for the wealthy. It means inflation is not eroding their wealth.

Poor productivity erodes it instead, with even poorer outcomes.

Productivity is an issue, but it isn't the only issue causing stagnant wages.

Some other causes:
* Chronic high unemployment.
* Chronic high underemployment.
* High levels of casualisation and other forms of insecure work.
* Lack of consumer confidence.
* A moribund economy.
* Excess red tape imposed on workers.
* Lax enforcement of the regulations regarding the use of foreign workers.
* Free trade agreements.
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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 4:10pm
 
Bam wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:58pm:
crocodile wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 1:25pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Low, stagnant, or falling wages is good news for the wealthy. It means inflation is not eroding their wealth.

Poor productivity erodes it instead, with even poorer outcomes.

Productivity is an issue, but it isn't the only issue causing stagnant wages.

Some other causes:
* Chronic high unemployment.
* Chronic high underemployment.
* High levels of casualisation and other forms of insecure work.
* Lack of consumer confidence.
* A moribund economy.
* Excess red tape imposed on workers.
* Lax enforcement of the regulations regarding the use of foreign workers.
* Free trade agreements.

All of those things too. The point is that without productivity growth, wages won't grow regardless of the items in your list. Your list is only useful if productivity was actually growing.

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