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Reply #45 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:01pm
 
It's not just aboriginals on the card. It has been expanded and every one in the areas are forced into it

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Reply #46 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:01pm
 
Bam wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 5:39pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
Bam wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 5:10pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 11:40pm:
the many have destroyed it for the few.

That sums up the rampant bullying of the unemployed by the broader community.

You probably need to go and see the destruction for yourself in the places where this card has been introduced and see what solution you could come up with.

Abolish involuntary unemployment and introduce a Job Guarantee.

Unemployment doesn't just happen. It is by the government's CHOICE. If it wanted, the Federal government could choose to reinstate real full employment with unemployment maintained at or below 1.5%. This was the case in Australia from around 1947 to 1972. The good old days, when allowing unemployment to reach as high as 2.0% caused governments a lot of pain at election time.

There is no industry in Ceduna or the other places where the card was introduced but they all congregate there and its not to find a job, should the government get them to dig holes and then fill them in!

"Abolish involuntary unemployment and introduce a Job Guarantee."
That's the thing though, they choose to be unemployed, what can you do.




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Reply #47 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:05pm
 
Yes Spot the articles indicates that.

But it is in the grog and drug communities where it is targeted. All of NT is being considered.

The idea is to improve the health of the grog and drug ridden Aboriginies and to reduce social violence.
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Reply #48 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:25am
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
Welfare should only be given as a cashless card
To be spent only on food, accommodation, transport to job interviews and clothing.

If you want to go on holidays, or smoke or drink grog and generally waste my hard earned taxes, you will have to get a damn job.

I'm sick to DEATH of paying for lazy bludgers to live a life of luxury while I work to pay for them.

There should be a time limit as well
12 months and your out.....the first time
6 months the second time
3 months the third time
And if you can't hold down a job, put them in the army.

Nope.

And not a shred of understanding of an economy with artificial chronic high unemployment.

11 million workers, 10 million jobs. DO THE MATHS.
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Reply #49 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:29am
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:01pm:
they choose to be unemployed

Bullshit.

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what can you do.

Educate you with percussive reinforcement using a 2-by-4. Maybe then you'll get a clue.

11 million workers. 10 million jobs. Do the maths.
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Reply #50 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:28am
 
Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:29am:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:01pm:
they choose to be unemployed

Bullshit.

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what can you do.

Educate you with percussive reinforcement using a 2-by-4. Maybe then you'll get a clue.

11 million workers. 10 million jobs. Do the maths.


The sad and indisputable fact is that many dole bludgers are in fact dole bludgers, who do not wish to or intend to work.
Like a specific CULT group who seem to be able to access the highest benefits by always getting the disability pension.

Other groups deleberatly avoid interviews, dress to put off potential employers and even deliberately stuff up interviews so tgat they never have o work.
A few kilometers from where I live is a family.
They are four generations of dole bludgers, not one of them has ever done a days work in their lives.
They all live in a housing commission house, pool their dole and have quite a comfortable lifestyle....on my tax.
They even have semi regular overseas holidays to Bali.

Then there are our indiginious brothers, who have no idea what work is, entire communities who have never done a days work....ever.

And these people think they are entitled?

How many dole bludgers actually partake of volunteer work?
Not work for the dole, but unpaid work to simply give back to the people.
I work full time and still find time to volunteer,  and from time to time we have dole bludgers looking to fill their hours of work for the dole come in.
They never last long, the work is hard and requires effort both physically and mentally.
They always watch their hours very carefully, seldom doing even a hour over their required time.

And in 10 years, I have never seen even one abbo or muzzo.

But these bludgers demand more and more, for What?

There is a finite amount of Money, my taxes are far too much already, but these lazy bludgers want more, which will come from my taxes.

Pensioners deserve more, they have, in most cases, worked all their lives and deserve some reward.
But dole bludgers deserve a kick in the arse and told to find work.

Or are they too good to work?

Give them the dole for 12 months, then cut them off.
Works in other countries.
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Reply #51 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:08am
 
A specific cult group? You mean the disabled? WTH?

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Reply #52 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:26am
 
Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:29am:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:01pm:
they choose to be unemployed

Bullshit.

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what can you do.

Educate you with percussive reinforcement using a 2-by-4. Maybe then you'll get a clue.

11 million workers. 10 million jobs. Do the maths.


That's an unfair challenge.
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Reply #53 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:33am
 
Have you got a cashless WELFARE card Gweggy ?
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Reply #54 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:21am
 
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Q2. Who does the Cashless Debit Card program apply to?

A2. The program applies to all people who receive a working age payment within the three current sites, Ceduna and the surrounding region, the East Kimberley and the Goldfields regions. Age Pension and Veterans’ Pension recipients are not placed onto the program, but may volunteer to participate. People who earn money from other sources, such as paid work, are also able to volunteer.

In the Bundaberg and Hervey Bay region, people aged 35 years and under who receive Newstart Allowance, Youth Allowance (Job seeker), Parenting Payment (Single) or Parenting Payment (Partnered) will receive the Cashless Debit Card.


https://www.dss.gov.au/families-and-children-programs-services-welfare-quarantin...

Not just aboriginals

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Reply #55 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:24am
 
Yes the Greenies want the Aboriginies to drink and drug themselves senseless so the Greenies can stir them up as they try to start their Black Power Movement.
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Reply #56 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:41am
 
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Age Pension and Veterans’ Pension recipients are not placed onto the program, but may volunteer to participate.


Oh, yes... I can just imagine the reaction from pensioners if the government tried putting them in "the program".

I can't think of a quicker form of political suicide.

Mind you, now that the Federal election is out of the way for another 3 years, nothing would surprise me with ScoMo and his bunch of incompetent clowns.
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Reply #57 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:47am
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:41am:
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Age Pension and Veterans’ Pension recipients are not placed onto the program, but may volunteer to participate.


Oh, yes... I can just imagine the reaction from pensioners if the government tried putting them in "the program".

I can't think of a quicker form of political suicide.

Mind you, now that the Federal election is out of the way for another 3 years, nothing would surprise me with ScoMo and his bunch of incompetent clowns.


yeah i doubt the parents like it either (anyone under 35)

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Reply #58 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:17am
 
some people cant help themselves when it comes to cash    I have a son like that  no he isnt on welfare but he is always skint..and very little to show for what money he does have...some people are like that they cant handle money...give them enough for the week and its gone in two days...a card is the only way.... and if you discriminate you are called on it  so it has to involve all who receive welfare...its reality get over it..
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Reply #59 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:39pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:17am:
some people cant help themselves when it comes to cash    I have a son like that  no he isnt on welfare but he is always skint..and very little to show for what money he does have...some people are like that they cant handle money...give them enough for the week and its gone in two days...a card is the only way.... and if you discriminate you are called on it  so it has to involve all who receive welfare...its reality get over it..

Spoken like a true right-wing oppressive Lib: better to punish one thousand innocent people than let a single guilty person go free. (Especially if the Libs can use this "punishment" to enrich themselves and their mates).
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