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Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy....
Reply #15 - Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:32pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:01pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:48pm:

Let the dole bludgers bludge, there are only enough jobs to go around.

And that is just how employers like it so
that they can screw employees knowing that another
job is almost impossible to get.

Bobbi, nearly every one of your posts is hypocritical according to your own philosophy:

“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

It wasn't an extraordinary claim - it's common sense.

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Re: Employers too choosy....
Reply #16 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 12:20am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

"Employers are “screaming out” for workers but are struggling to find them, the Employment Minister has claimed, pointing the finger at applicants.

Minister Michaelia Cash on Monday released the results of a survey from the Department of Employment which reported that nearly half (45 per cent) of employers had trouble recruiting in 2018. That was an increase on previous years.

What scrutiny has been placed on the recruitment methods of these employers?

Some examples of recruitment methods that don't work that employers are known to use:
* Putting a job ad on their Facebook page for a day or two. Why no takers?
* Putting a handwritten notice on their shop window. That sometimes works but often doesn't.
* Employers being far too picky about applicants. Sooner or later they'll understand that dressing "appropriately" is not always possible when unemployment benefits are among the lowest in the OECD while housing costs are among the highest. And the role doesn't specifically need "5 years" of experience. If an applicant has 4 years of experience, don't spurn them, interview them!

What works:
* Recruitment at central locations such as popular websites.
* Jobs fairs.
* Employers not being as picky about applicants.

It's pretty clear that the lazy Thatcherite bogan muppet "Minister" hasn't given any consideration to scrutinising employers more closely. Nor has she spent any time at all meeting with long-term unemployed workers. She's just doing her usual blame-the-victim rubbish while remaining clueless and incompetent.

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Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy....
Reply #17 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 12:22am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:01pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:48pm:

Let the dole bludgers bludge, there are only enough jobs to go around.

And that is just how employers like it so
that they can screw employees knowing that another
job is almost impossible to get.

Bobbi, nearly every one of your posts is hypocritical according to your own philosophy:

“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

It wasn't an extraordinary claim - it's common sense.

That is an extraordinary claim.

Bobbi is victimizing himself with his own philosophy. It's like shooting yourself in the foot deliberately to distract and divert.

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Re: Employers too choosy....
Reply #18 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 5:42am

Bam wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 12:20am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

"Employers are “screaming out” for workers but are struggling to find them, the Employment Minister has claimed, pointing the finger at applicants.

Minister Michaelia Cash on Monday released the results of a survey from the Department of Employment which reported that nearly half (45 per cent) of employers had trouble recruiting in 2018. That was an increase on previous years.

What scrutiny has been placed on the recruitment methods of these employers?

Some examples of recruitment methods that don't work that employers are known to use:
* Putting a job ad on their Facebook page for a day or two. Why no takers?
* Putting a handwritten notice on their shop window. That sometimes works but often doesn't.
* Employers being far too picky about applicants. Sooner or later they'll understand that dressing "appropriately" is not always possible when unemployment benefits are among the lowest in the OECD while housing costs are among the highest. And the role doesn't specifically need "5 years" of experience. If an applicant has 4 years of experience, don't spurn them, interview them!

What works:
* Recruitment at central locations such as popular websites.
* Jobs fairs.
* Employers not being as picky about applicants.

It's pretty clear that the lazy Thatcherite bogan muppet "Minister" hasn't given any consideration to scrutinising employers more closely. Nor has she spent any time at all meeting with long-term unemployed workers. She's just doing her usual blame-the-victim rubbish while remaining clueless and incompetent.

We tried to fill three low skilled store positions earlier this year.
Of the 85 applicants, we chose 8 for interviews for several reasons.
Applications that were obviously nothing more than a churned out response, sometimes even with incorrect details such as who we were.
Applications that had incorrect or no contact details, how do we contact them?
Zero responses when we contacted them, some were even quite rude.

Of the 8 we managed to contact, only 2 turned up on time, 2 were even no shows.
We employed 1, the rest were a waste of our time.
One even old us we were thieves for trying to employ him at a low wage, he wanted more than our trades people.

We filled the jobs with a disabled person, who works well and an older gentleman, who was bored on his pension.

When we employ now, we respond to every single applicant.
Responses are sent to centerlink.

And, not one abbo has ever applied for any jobs we have offered.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84750 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #19 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 5:54am 'Ere, 'ere! Who changed my title? Nice to see that 'you' modified your approach... BTW - what kind of jobs were these?
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #20 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 9:54am The conundrum for the Lefties is that Mrs Cash is telling the TRUTH. She should know what is actually happening on the ground. The Lefties know what is happening at Centrelink.
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Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy....
Reply #21 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 10:20am

Something doesn't add up. Here the ALP Mrs Swanson cries how tough it is and so on.

If this was true you would think the dole bludgers would be eager to get a better paying job.

But they don't make any effort at all and just go thru the required and then walk away.

Over the Hill old timers face age discrimination when asking for a job.

Newstart $277.85 a week benefit is too low to make ends meet to get back into workforce
Meryl Swanson MP JULY 31 2019 - 7:00AM

Meryl Swanson MP says the 'Newstart' allowance is too low. "So low that people can't afford the clothes, transport and basics they need to get back into the workforce."

I can't imagine what it's like to live on $277.85 a week.

Rent, petrol, groceries, school supplies, phone and internet bills, electricity, water - these things all add up and in my two-adult, two-children household, they add up to well over $39 a day - the amount of money that someone on Newstart receives.

Newstart is the name of Australia's unemployment benefit. Australians over 22 years may be eligible if they can prove they're unemployed, looking for work, not on strike and own under a certain amount in assets.

Half of the people on Newstart are 45 or older, one-quarter has an illness or disability and more than 100,000 people are single parents.

Out of the 20 electorates with the most people on Newstart, more than half are in regional areas of Australia.

Newstart is too low. So low that people can't afford the clothes, transport and basics they need to get back into the workforce.

A study of over 500 Newstart recipients recently revealed that more than half skip more than five meals a week and almost all didn't turn their heater on in winter.

In the same survey, one respondent even said when times were tough, they showered once a week to save money.

If the dollar amount of welfare is forcing Australians into poverty, that amount is too low. Since we returned to Parliament in July, the rate of the Newstart Allowance has popped up a lot.

Not only in the media, but also in the senate where a motion was passed calling on the Government to increase the $277 a week amount.

Unfortunately, this won't happen unless the Liberal-National Government pass it in the House of Representatives.

The prime minister and the treasurer have made it very clear they won't let that happen. Why? Because they say "the best kind of welfare is a job".

[color=#0000ff]In parts of the electorate of Paterson - which covers Kurri Kurri, Maitland and Port Stephens - the unemployment rate is almost double the national average.

So while most Newstart recipients in our community would like a job, they can't get one even when they try. It's reasonable to ask how Australia compares to other nations to track how we're doing with welfare payments.

But it isn't good news. On average, we're spending less than half of what similar countries spend on employment services behind nations like the UK, Canada, Korea, the US, Portugal and Japan.

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This week it was revealed that "Nationals MPs have defied the prime minister by secretly conducting their own costings on boosting the Newstart allowance".

Not only does the Labor party believe Newstart is too low, so too does the Government's own party members.

https://www.cessnockadvertiser.com.au/story/6298646/newstart-benefit-too-low-to-...

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #22 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 4:26pm Does Australia have a 'job snob' problem? Summary: No.
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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #23 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 8:34pm Recent articles state the answer is no. But the truth never topped the Coalition anyway.
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Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy....
Reply #24 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 8:36pm

crocodile wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

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Around 60 per cent of recruiters looking to fill lower-skilled positions said they were struggling with jobseekers poor applications and presentation skills.

The report also found some applicants were approaching the interview too casually and had poor communication skills, were less enthusiastic and dressed inappropriately.

Sounds like low skills.

Yes exactly what they were looking for ?

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Reply #25 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 8:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

crocodile wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

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Around 60 per cent of recruiters looking to fill lower-skilled positions said they were struggling with jobseekers poor applications and presentation skills.

The report also found some applicants were approaching the interview too casually and had poor communication skills, were less enthusiastic and dressed inappropriately.

Sounds like low skills.

Yes exactly what they were looking for ?

They're probably still thinking that Jobactive is actually useful. It isn't.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58621 Here Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #26 - Aug 6^th, 2019 at 9:22pm juliar wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 9:54am: The conundrum for the Lefties is that Mrs Cash is telling the TRUTH. She should know what is actually happening on the ground. The Lefties know what is happening at Centrelink. If she had any idea of what she was talking about she would not be yabbering so much garbage.
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Reply #27 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 10:55am

Now DNA can't deny this.

Something doesn't add up. The ALP Mrs Swanson cries how tough it is and so on.

If this was true you would think the dole bludgers would be eager to get a better paying job.

But they don't make any effort at all and just go thru the required and then walk away.

Over the Hill old timers face age discrimination when asking for a job.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137780 Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #28 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 11:06am juliar wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 9:54am: The conundrum for the Lefties is that Mrs Cash is telling the TRUTH. She should know what is actually happening on the ground. She should, but she doesn't.
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #29 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 11:15am Gweggy you shouldn't be so choosy. But as you are over the hill you can't be too choosy. Wouldn't it be better to take a job that pays more than Newstart ? Then why don't the dole bludgers ?
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