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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #30 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:13pm Cowra Meat Works needs people. On 2GB right now.
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Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy....
Reply #31 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:59pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 12:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:01pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:48pm:

Let the dole bludgers bludge, there are only enough jobs to go around.

And that is just how employers like it so
that they can screw employees knowing that another
job is almost impossible to get.

Bobbi, nearly every one of your posts is hypocritical according to your own philosophy:

“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

It wasn't an extraordinary claim - it's common sense.

That is an extraordinary claim.

Bobbi is victimizing himself with his own philosophy. It's like shooting yourself in the foot deliberately to distract and divert.

What do you find extraordinary about the claim?

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Reply #32 - Aug 7^th, 2019 at 11:43pm

juliar wrote on Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:13pm:

Cowra Meat Works needs people.

The Howard government wrecked the employment market in Australia the moment they smashed the CES.

If the CES was still around, employers could advertise in the morning, be interviewing that afternoon and starting the new workers the next day.

Now we have the Jobactive failure that wastes billions to do far less than the CES used to do.

Notice how little the current incompetent government is really doing to connect workers to jobs? What little they do is geared towards lining the pockets of their mates.

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Reply #33 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 1:29am

juliar wrote on Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:13pm:

Cowra Meat Works needs people.

On 2GB right now.

Funny thing - the sister's boyfriend had a job at a meat works out West.. he was finished up in two weeks and came back saying, "They only want to keep Islanders and such who will bend the rules to earn a buck or two - they don't like real Aussie workers who expect to play fair and by the rules."

Funny that..... must be the secret behind our real open borders to all losers...

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Reply #34 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 1:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

juliar wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

The conundrum for the Lefties is that Mrs Cash is telling the TRUTH. She should know what is actually happening on the ground.

She should, but she doesn't.

She has no connection with the truth - she and the truth are undergoing a trial separation....

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Reply #35 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 10:35am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 1:29am:

juliar wrote on Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:13pm:

Cowra Meat Works needs people.

On 2GB right now.

Funny thing - the sister's boyfriend had a job at a meat works out West.. he was finished up in two weeks and came back saying, "They only want to keep Islanders and such who will bend the rules to earn a buck or two - they don't like real Aussie workers who expect to play fair and by the rules."

Funny that..... must be the secret behind our real open borders to all losers...

It is time to wean unscrupulous employers off the teat of black market labour. They're the ones driving down the wages of everyone else.

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Reply #36 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 12:47pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2019 at 1:59pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 12:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 11:01pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 9:48pm:

Let the dole bludgers bludge, there are only enough jobs to go around.

And that is just how employers like it so
that they can screw employees knowing that another
job is almost impossible to get.

Bobbi, nearly every one of your posts is hypocritical according to your own philosophy:

“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

It wasn't an extraordinary claim - it's common sense.

That is an extraordinary claim.

Bobbi is victimizing himself with his own philosophy. It's like shooting yourself in the foot deliberately to distract and divert.

What do you find extraordinary about the claim?

The low dole money is there to
scare the hell out of people so
they become obedient workers
who are eager to bend over
and take it from the boss.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #37 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 2:51pm If the dole was so terrible then why do the dole bludgers make no effort to take jobs being offered ? It all sounds like a Greeny Labor beat up.
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Reply #38 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 3:04pm

juliar wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

If the dole was so terrible then why do the dole bludgers make no effort to take jobs being offered ?

It all sounds like a Greeny Labor beat up.

There are a lot of reasons a job is unsuitable that arent mentioned int he article.

eg:

1: Too far to get to and/or outside public transport hours
2: Not enough hours to cover the cost of transport
3: Expected to work weekends without penalty rates
4: Employer expects too much (eg 5 years experience or soemthing)

Those are just some of the reasons - its not like those online job seeker places send you to suitable jobs

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58621 Here Gender:	Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Reply #39 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:05pm juliar wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 2:51pm: If the dole was so terrible then why do the dole bludgers make no effort to take jobs being offered ? It all sounds like a Greeny Labor beat up. Your dole bludgers are a fiction and you would know nothing about the effort put in. Just more right wing lunacy.
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Reply #40 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:51pm

employers expect too much sometimes, I have come to believe the average worker in Australia is a bit less than average on the IQ front, thats just the way it is. Between meth, steroids and energy drinks that they all seem to guzzle constantly, a diet of junk food and a lifetime of avoiding any physical labour has turned the average young Australian into a mentally unstable, selfie snapping, out of shape emotional retard.

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Reply #41 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 10:03pm

rhino wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:51pm:

employers expect too much sometimes, I have come to believe the average worker in Australia is a bit less than average on the IQ front, thats just the way it is. Between meth, steroids and energy drinks that they all seem to guzzle constantly, a diet of junk food and a lifetime of avoiding any physical labour has turned the average young Australian into a mentally unstable, selfie snapping, out of shape emotional retard.

And then there is the other absolutely normal 98.5% of them.

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Reply #42 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 10:06pm

rhino wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:51pm:

employers expect too much sometimes

Like requiring applicants to have completed a Certificate IV in Retail to take an entry-level job at the minimum wage serving customers in a shop.

Employers are asking for more and more qualifications but aren't willing to pay for them. Not through higher rates of pay, not through education levies, nothing.

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Reply #43 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 11:21pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 10:03pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:51pm:

employers expect too much sometimes, I have come to believe the average worker in Australia is a bit less than average on the IQ front, thats just the way it is. Between meth, steroids and energy drinks that they all seem to guzzle constantly, a diet of junk food and a lifetime of avoiding any physical labour has turned the average young Australian into a mentally unstable, selfie snapping, out of shape emotional retard.

And then there is the other absolutely normal 98.5% of them.

They must be hiding somewhere. I have to work with some of these twats, their main concern is Bali holidays and facebook selfies. And if another of these self entitled twats starts another loud face to face conversation with someone on their iphone in my personal space again i swear I will take their iphone and ram it where it hurts. They all need 6 years in the Army and a permanent electronic holiday.

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Reply #44 - Aug 8^th, 2019 at 11:24pm

Bam wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 10:06pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 8^th, 2019 at 9:51pm:

employers expect too much sometimes

Like requiring applicants to have completed a Certificate IV in Retail to take an entry-level job at the minimum wage serving customers in a shop.

Employers are asking for more and more qualifications but aren't willing to pay for them. Not through higher rates of pay, not through education levies, nothing.

Minimum rate of adult pay is over 20 bucks an hour, in the US its 5 bucks or less. Whats the big deal in getting a Certificate .

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