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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #105 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:29pm:

In the meantime, Christian atrocities are no excuse for muslims to commit atrocities

Who ever suggested they were? Stop erecting strawman arguments, please. Roll Eyes

You did ... every time we mention any muslim atrocities, you bring up Christian atrocities. You've got a short memory

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #106 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:26pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:04pm:

funny, I still can't see any mention of under 8s and their punishment for reading non-Quranic material. Golly gosh, I can't even find a single reference to under 8s.

Wherever did you get the idea they were shot in the back of the head for reading non-Quranic material FD?

I have asked you several times what exactly your pedantry is based on. All you responded with was denying that I quoted what I quoted.

FD I respond by pointing out there is no basis to your claims, and that the only reference you have is a completely irrelevant quote about what the taliban were up to after the period in question.

Hows this for pedantry:

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The Taliban presented every girl over 8 in the regions they controlled with the death penalty for learning to read, and girls under 8 with the death penalty for learning to read anything other than the Quran. It was not an isolated incident, it was an actively enforced policy.

Do you agree there is literally no mention of girls under 8 anywhere in the two articles you cited - let alone what they were shot for?

What possible grasping could you do to claim this is somehow substantiated? Surely you would have to admit its a little difficult when neither article even say anything about under 8s no?

Oh, G. Do you really think, after all these years, FD's just going to fess up and promise not to tell any more lies?

You should know better than that, dear.

What does the holy Quran say about those Mushriken who continue to lie and evade after you have shown them mercy?

Thoughts?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #107 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #108 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #109 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Your average christian aren't bad people. Those bretheran type f arkers are evil. I've knocked these people on here before. I'm not as biased as you are .

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #110 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #112 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:26pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:04pm:

funny, I still can't see any mention of under 8s and their punishment for reading non-Quranic material. Golly gosh, I can't even find a single reference to under 8s.

Wherever did you get the idea they were shot in the back of the head for reading non-Quranic material FD?

I have asked you several times what exactly your pedantry is based on. All you responded with was denying that I quoted what I quoted.

FD I respond by pointing out there is no basis to your claims, and that the only reference you have is a completely irrelevant quote about what the taliban were up to after the period in question.

Hows this for pedantry:

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The Taliban presented every girl over 8 in the regions they controlled with the death penalty for learning to read, and girls under 8 with the death penalty for learning to read anything other than the Quran. It was not an isolated incident, it was an actively enforced policy.

Do you agree there is literally no mention of girls under 8 anywhere in the two articles you cited - let alone what they were shot for?

What possible grasping could you do to claim this is somehow substantiated? Surely you would have to admit its a little difficult when neither article even say anything about under 8s no?

Not sure where the original article is that I got that from, but it went into detail about the rules and the punishments. I just googled this:

https://thediplomat.com/2016/11/the-schools-of-the-taliban/

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During Taliban rule in 1990s, secular education was banned and replaced by religious education. Girls were not allowed to go to school. Today, much of the same can be witnessed in schools that are under Taliban control.

The teachers, students, and residents who were interviewed in these areas in Kunduz confirmed that the Taliban have replaced English, culture, history, and physical education classes with Islamic subjects. Boys are also not allowed to wear Western clothes.

In some areas, the Taliban have barred girls from going to school. In other districts, girls only have access to education up to a certain age. In Dasht-e-Archi district of Kunduz, for example, girls above the age of eight are not allowed to study.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #113 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 9:49pm Well hell F.D. we all know that the muzzies don't kill the girls under 8, they take them home for some good old fashioned thighing an a fair bit of rubbing weenies against little titties etc., perverted sexual self gratification is just part and parcel of following moh as the best example for mankind.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #114 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 10:26pm

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

For the last ~2019 years, Soren, Christians have killed fellow Christians, non-Christians and people of other faiths, all in the name of Christianity. Get back to us when you've studied that bloody history and explain to us why a religion devoted, supposedly to non-violence has had such a violent bloody history, Soren. Genocide, massacre, all committed by Christians, often with the Church(es) blessing. Tsk, tsk, millions killed all because of Christianity. Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #115 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00am

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

You? You're one of those Brethren types Homo wants to send BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Nothing personal, you understand, we just find you people inherently repugnant.

I mean this in the nicest possible way.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #116 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:07am

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Not sure where the original article is that I got that from, but it went into detail about the rules and the punishments. I just googled this:

Which also says nothing about under 8s. How on earth are we supposed to interpret this as anything other than the most desperate clutching at straws FD?

Are you saying that you got the claim that under 8s were executed in a "actively enforced policy" for reading non-Quranic material from an article you now cannot find, and inexplicably didn't even feel the need to cite it when you actually made the claim - instead choosing to cite 2 completely irrelevant wiki articles that don't even mention under 8s?

Isn't it funny that something so horrific that was so "widespread" and "actively enforced" cannot be found in any source, except apparently in some obscure one that you can't even remember or find now?

Golly you'd think that at the very least jihad watch or religion of peace would have picked up on it wouldn't you?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #118 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #119 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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