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Reply #120 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:41pm

Taliban treatment of women

In October 1996, a woman had the tip of her thumb cut off for wearing nail varnish.

In May 1997, five female CARE International employees with authorisation from the Ministry of the Interior to conduct research for an emergency feeding programme were forced from their vehicle by members of the religious police. The guards used a public address system to insult and harass the women before striking them with a metal and leather whip over 1.5 meters (almost 5 feet) in length.

When a Taliban raid discovered a woman running an informal school in her apartment, they beat the children and threw the woman down a flight of stairs (breaking her leg) and then imprisoned her. They threatened to stone her family publicly if she refused to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Taliban and their laws.

An Afghan girl named Bibi Aisha was promised to a new family through a tribal method of solving disputes known as baad. When she fled the violence girls often suffer under baad, her new family found her, and a Taliban commander ordered her punished as an example, "lest other girls in the village try to do the same thing".[31] Her ears and nose were cut off and she was left for dead in the mountains, but survived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #121 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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And the nasty ones are killing, slashing and raping Aussies, but you couldn't give a shyt could you? And where did those nasty ones emerge from? From the Sunni, Sh'ite, Wahabbis, Alawites, Sufis moderate muslim mainstream of course

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #122 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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Brian you are not only a cretin you are an apologist and dissembler for faith based violence and murder.

As an extra giggle search for my posts educating you on sufis and their relationship to more mainstream Muslims, also my posts on the tribe of Alawites, where I also schooled you on the difference between Persian and Arab. And the classic the day I taught that there is more than one interpretation by Muslims of what jihad consists of.

When you have finished reading those posts educate yourself on yazadis. Grin

. It may come up in a test. Roll Eyes

Actually, add to cretin, pompous clown. Stick with mud memes and your military fantasies.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #123 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:07pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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And the nasty ones are killing, slashing and raping Aussies, but you couldn't give a shyt could you? And where did those nasty ones emerge from? From the Sunni, Sh'ite, Wahabbis, Alawites, Sufis moderate muslim mainstream of course

And does that make the non-nasty ones who make the majority of the Sunni, Sh'ite, Wahabbis, Alawites, Sufis moderate muslim mainstream, guilty of anything other than sharing a religious name with the nasty ones? Really? If so, perhaps we should examine all the nasty Christians versus the non-nasty Christians (and yes, there have been in the last ~2019 years quite a shedload of nasty Christians out there)? Perhaps we need to examine the murderers, the rapists, the paedophiles, the kidnappers, etc.? Or are you just going to try and justify the persecution of an religious group just 'cause they are Muslim, hey? Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #124 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:12pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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Brian you are not only a cretin you are an apologist and dissembler for faith based violence and murder.

As an extra giggle search for my posts educating you on sufis and their relationship to more mainstream Muslims, also my posts on the tribe of Alawites, where I also schooled you on the difference between Persian and Arab. And the classic the day I taught that there is more than one interpretation by Muslims of what jihad consists of.

When you have finished reading those posts educate yourself on yazadis. Grin

. It may come up in a test. Roll Eyes

Actually, add to cretin, pompous clown. Stick with mud memes and your military fantasies.

You really are quite delusional. You haven't provided any links and as for your supposed "education", well that is laughable. You do deserve to play in the mud with Soren. Enjoy yourself...

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #125 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:44pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:41pm:

Taliban treatment of women

In October 1996, a woman had the tip of her thumb cut off for wearing nail varnish.

In May 1997, five female CARE International employees with authorisation from the Ministry of the Interior to conduct research for an emergency feeding programme were forced from their vehicle by members of the religious police. The guards used a public address system to insult and harass the women before striking them with a metal and leather whip over 1.5 meters (almost 5 feet) in length.

When a Taliban raid discovered a woman running an informal school in her apartment, they beat the children and threw the woman down a flight of stairs (breaking her leg) and then imprisoned her. They threatened to stone her family publicly if she refused to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Taliban and their laws.

An Afghan girl named Bibi Aisha was promised to a new family through a tribal method of solving disputes known as baad. When she fled the violence girls often suffer under baad, her new family found her, and a Taliban commander ordered her punished as an example, "lest other girls in the village try to do the same thing".[31] Her ears and nose were cut off and she was left for dead in the mountains, but survived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women

No porkies here

See that FD? This is how you do it. Bias presents the facts, nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't feel the need to embelish these facts with his own inventions.

And as we can see here, the facts are more than adequate to condemn the taliban.

What made you think that the taliban were not bad enough that it was necessary to invent lies about them?

Well done bias - a fact based critique of muslims. Curiously rare around here.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #126 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:54pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Yes there is evidence secret, so why not stick to it? Do you find it strange that rather than sticking to the mountain of evidence to condemn the taliban with FD decides to make stuff up about them?

Do you agree it would be pretty hilarious to describe FD's inventions about the taliban, along with his attempted deflections by pointing to completely irrelevant citations, as "honest discourse"?

Or do you adhere to the school of thought that says 'porkies don't matter - when its about muslims'?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #127 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:37pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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And the nasty ones are killing, slashing and raping Aussies,

Are they? Where?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #128 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:50pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:41pm:

Taliban treatment of women

In October 1996, a woman had the tip of her thumb cut off for wearing nail varnish.

In May 1997, five female CARE International employees with authorisation from the Ministry of the Interior to conduct research for an emergency feeding programme were forced from their vehicle by members of the religious police. The guards used a public address system to insult and harass the women before striking them with a metal and leather whip over 1.5 meters (almost 5 feet) in length.

When a Taliban raid discovered a woman running an informal school in her apartment, they beat the children and threw the woman down a flight of stairs (breaking her leg) and then imprisoned her. They threatened to stone her family publicly if she refused to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Taliban and their laws.

An Afghan girl named Bibi Aisha was promised to a new family through a tribal method of solving disputes known as baad. When she fled the violence girls often suffer under baad, her new family found her, and a Taliban commander ordered her punished as an example, "lest other girls in the village try to do the same thing".[31] Her ears and nose were cut off and she was left for dead in the mountains, but survived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women

No porkies here

See that FD? This is how you do it. Bias presents the facts, nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't feel the need to embelish these facts with his own inventions.

And as we can see here, the facts are more than adequate to condemn the taliban.

What made you think that the taliban were not bad enough that it was necessary to invent lies about them?

Well done bias - a fact based critique of muslims. Curiously rare around here.

You're not trying to reform FD, shurely?

FD likes lies. He refuses to even discuss the use of porkies in his campaign against the Muselman.

FD's a frustrated polemicist. You should understand by now that FD will always use porkies, hyperbole and hysterics in his campaign, and he'll always evade when he's caught out.

FD has already been reformed, remember? He used to be an apologist for the truth. He used to call for tolerance.

You're not going to change him back, G.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #129 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:56pm On the subject of telling porkies, is there one muslim alive who will honestly admit that today 2019, if you follow the example of muhammad you would have to be a thief liar pedophile rapist torturer and mass murderer? Or is the porky which denies this fact O.K.?
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #130 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:35pm

moses wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:56pm:

On the subject of telling porkies, is there one muslim alive who will honestly admit that today 2019, if you follow the example of muhammad you would have to be a thief liar pedophile rapist torturer and mass murderer?

Or is the porky which denies this fact O.K.?

That's right, dear. Moh banned all those things, so it's taqiyya upon taqiyya, no?

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Reply #131 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:38pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

You? You're one of those Brethren types Homo wants to send BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Nothing personal, you understand, we just find you people inherently repugnant.

I mean this in the nicest possible way.

I feel the same way about you people. We're even.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #132 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:55pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

You? You're one of those Brethren types Homo wants to send BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Nothing personal, you understand, we just find you people inherently repugnant.

I mean this in the nicest possible way.

I feel the same way about you people. We're even.

Australians?

Yes, I suppose you do. You want to send us BACK TO WHERE WE CAME FROM, no?

Here I am, Homo. I'm back!

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #133 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 6:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:41pm:

Taliban treatment of women

In October 1996, a woman had the tip of her thumb cut off for wearing nail varnish.

In May 1997, five female CARE International employees with authorisation from the Ministry of the Interior to conduct research for an emergency feeding programme were forced from their vehicle by members of the religious police. The guards used a public address system to insult and harass the women before striking them with a metal and leather whip over 1.5 meters (almost 5 feet) in length.

When a Taliban raid discovered a woman running an informal school in her apartment, they beat the children and threw the woman down a flight of stairs (breaking her leg) and then imprisoned her. They threatened to stone her family publicly if she refused to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Taliban and their laws.

An Afghan girl named Bibi Aisha was promised to a new family through a tribal method of solving disputes known as baad. When she fled the violence girls often suffer under baad, her new family found her, and a Taliban commander ordered her punished as an example, "lest other girls in the village try to do the same thing".[31] Her ears and nose were cut off and she was left for dead in the mountains, but survived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women

No porkies here

See that FD? This is how you do it. Bias presents the facts, nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't feel the need to embelish these facts with his own inventions.

And as we can see here, the facts are more than adequate to condemn the taliban.

What made you think that the taliban were not bad enough that it was necessary to invent lies about them?

Well done bias - a fact based critique of muslims. Curiously rare around here.

The thing about the Taliban treating women no worse than the Saudis, is that just you presenting the facts?

Why are you so eager to talk up the Taliban and talk down the Saudi administration? Is it because the Saudis decline to kill Americans at every opportunity?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #134 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:30pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:44am:

In another few more years of concerted efforts by the apologists and cultists ISIS will be elevated to a faith based alternative housing and aid project. Grin

Setting fire to people and slitting throats will be censored out of existence and if mentioned the first thing the apologist will ask for is ref? smug in the knowledge that like Greggs post it has already been removed, and the second thing they will do is deny the reference.

What’s worse though the apologist will know that evidence of ISIS and Islamic atrocities once existed,but apologism and megaphone sized virtue announcing is much, much important to an apologist than any attempt at honest discourse.

Why does your Islamophobia prevent you from understanding that there are many different types of Muslims? There are the nasty ones - the Islamists. There are the moderate ones - the overwhelming majority of Muslims. There are Sunni, there are Sh'ite, there are Wahabbis, there are Alawites, there are Sufis, etc., etc. To you, they appear from your language that you consider them all one and the same. Why? Roll Eyes

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How do YOU tell them apart before they wage murderous jihad on you?

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