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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #150 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Who ever claimed the opposite? What is required is for Christians to admit the errors of their ways and admit that their religion has as bloody a history as Islam does. Simples really and something you seem to keep avoiding for some reason

Not avoiding it at all. I'm saying Christian atrocities are no excuse for muslims to keep committing atrocities

Just because Christians commit atrocities, doesn't mean muslims should commit atrocities

And as I keep pointing out, no one has claimed it does, except you. Funny that - you erecting continually a strawman argument. You going to admit that Christianity has a long, bloody, brutal history leading right up to today? Roll Eyes

What do you mean am I going to admit it? I've never denied it. But what's that got to do with muslims killing people, are you saying that muslims should kill people because Christians kill people?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #151 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:59pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

You? You're one of those Brethren types Homo wants to send BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Nothing personal, you understand, we just find you people inherently repugnant.

I mean this in the nicest possible way.

I feel the same way about you people. We're even.

Australians?

Yes, I suppose you do. You want to send us BACK TO WHERE WE CAME FROM, no?

Here I am, Homo. I'm back!

You are a Paki, Abu Karnal, everyone knows that.

You're more Pakistani than silly old Karnal Abu, dear boy. We grew here, you flew here.

Sovereignty, innit.

Abu = Paki.

You Abu, you Paki.

A sentence requires a verb in our language, dear boy, but I've picked up a bit of your Pidgeon English myself over the years.

You unassimilated country-shopper, stealie our jobs and tittie birds. Me cunning Aussie, stay to defend culture from brown-lips sht-eater.

Yum yum.

You are a Paki, Abu Karnal. We all know. Don't pretend otherwise. Your every utterance confirms it.

Me Danish, you Paki. I fit in and am pro-Australia, you are a Paki Muslim and anti-Australia. Everybody knows.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #152 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 1:17am

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

Yes. However, I don't bang on about it continuously unlike Islamophobes like you do, Hammer. Roll Eyes

However you do bang on about Christianity like a Christianophobe.

No. I bang on about Christianity like someone who dislikes the hypocrisy of the Christians when they condemn the Muslims. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I bang on about Islam and I'm an atheist. Don't jump to conclusions Bwian.

You don't attack the Christians at all, Hammer. You have defended them. You are a Christophile it seems. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who are the Christians killing in the name of Christianity, Bwian, who should therefore be attacked by Hammer or me or anyone else??
What is the Christian equivalent of Islamic jihadi ethnic cleansing of Christians in our time?

You? You're one of those Brethren types Homo wants to send BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Nothing personal, you understand, we just find you people inherently repugnant.

I mean this in the nicest possible way.

I feel the same way about you people. We're even.

Australians?

Yes, I suppose you do. You want to send us BACK TO WHERE WE CAME FROM, no?

Here I am, Homo. I'm back!

You are a Paki, Abu Karnal, everyone knows that.

You're more Pakistani than silly old Karnal Abu, dear boy. We grew here, you flew here.

Sovereignty, innit.

Abu = Paki.

You Abu, you Paki.

A sentence requires a verb in our language, dear boy, but I've picked up a bit of your Pidgeon English myself over the years.

You unassimilated country-shopper, stealie our jobs and tittie birds. Me cunning Aussie, stay to defend culture from brown-lips sht-eater.

Yum yum.

You are a Paki, Abu Karnal. We all know. Don't pretend otherwise. Your every utterance confirms it.

Me Danish, you Paki. I fit in and am pro-Australia, you are a Paki Muslim and anti-Australia. Everybody knows.

You don't even speaka da proper English, boy. You hate Australia. You even tried telling me we're Danes the other day.

Let's face it, you chased some bird over here until she left you. You're too lazy to go back to the old country, so you hang out here all day reading your Punch magazines and spying on the neighbours.

Pro-Australian my arse. I've never met a Paki in Australia, but every South Asian I've met minds his manners.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #153 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 11:15am

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 1:17am:

You don't even speaka da proper English, boy. You hate Australia. You even tried telling me we're Danes the other day.

Let's face it, you chased some bird over here until she left you. You're too lazy to go back to the old country, so you hang out here all day reading your Punch magazines and spying on the neighbours.

Pro-Australian my arse. I've never met a Paki in Australia, but every South Asian I've met minds his manners.

I've met a few Pakis over the years. All have been well mannered and polite.

Always remember that Soren flew here, we grew here. He's a new-Australian and deserves our sympathies as he tries to become a real Australian (which according to himself won't happen, ever). Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #154 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 3:37pm

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:32pm:

The bit about them treating women no better than the Taliban was transparent BS.

Sure, based on your BS fairy tales about pre-schoolers getting shot in the back of the head for reading the wrong stuff - in a "widespread" and "activey enforced policy" no less. Do you have any actual facts you can present to demonstrate that the Saudis treat women better than the taliban did?

In 2015, 52 percent of all university graduates in Saudi Arabia were female.

Do you really think I am the only one who considers the Taliban to be particularly bad, even by Muslim standards? And what is it with Muslims like you and Abu feeling compelled to defend the Taliban and attack the Saudis?

How many Saudi women get to work after getting those fabulous uni degrees FD?

The taliban are bad, even by muslim standards. Your mistake is thinking that calling out blatant lies about them somehow makes me think otherwise. It doesn't.

And I find it greatly disturbing that you don't think the Saudis are a huge threat to world peace on account of their huge wealth and the way they use it, and that its apparently ok to apologise for them when they engage in actual genocide and deploy terrorists all over the region (and beyond - in the case of 9/11). The taliban aren't a threat to anyone outside their own country.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #155 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 3:47pm Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:59pm: I fit in and am pro-Australia Thats funny. Pretty much everything you say here is an affront to actual Australian values. You were cheerleading for Fraser Anning - who is near-universally despised here.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #156 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 3:52pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 6:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 12:41pm:

Taliban treatment of women

In October 1996, a woman had the tip of her thumb cut off for wearing nail varnish.

In May 1997, five female CARE International employees with authorisation from the Ministry of the Interior to conduct research for an emergency feeding programme were forced from their vehicle by members of the religious police. The guards used a public address system to insult and harass the women before striking them with a metal and leather whip over 1.5 meters (almost 5 feet) in length.

When a Taliban raid discovered a woman running an informal school in her apartment, they beat the children and threw the woman down a flight of stairs (breaking her leg) and then imprisoned her. They threatened to stone her family publicly if she refused to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Taliban and their laws.

An Afghan girl named Bibi Aisha was promised to a new family through a tribal method of solving disputes known as baad. When she fled the violence girls often suffer under baad, her new family found her, and a Taliban commander ordered her punished as an example, "lest other girls in the village try to do the same thing".[31] Her ears and nose were cut off and she was left for dead in the mountains, but survived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women

No porkies here

See that FD? This is how you do it. Bias presents the facts, nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't feel the need to embelish these facts with his own inventions.

And as we can see here, the facts are more than adequate to condemn the taliban.

What made you think that the taliban were not bad enough that it was necessary to invent lies about them?

Well done bias - a fact based critique of muslims. Curiously rare around here.

The thing about the Taliban treating women no worse than the Saudis, is that just you presenting the facts?

Why are you so eager to talk up the Taliban and talk down the Saudi administration? Is it because the Saudis decline to kill Americans at every opportunity?

Apart from September 11?

Good point, FD. So typical of that dastardly G.

Now which other devout Muselman here spinelesly apologised for Sept 11?

Will you say?

I must say, FD's apologism for the Saudis has knocked me completely off guard.

Sure, the US bend over to them, but still... this is supposed to be the heart of the Islamic world. They should be target number one for any Islam critic worth their salt.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #157 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 4:09pm Werent they saudis on the planes in that 11/9 thing? Spot
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #158 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:29pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

Werent they saudis on the planes in that 11/9 thing?

Spot

Weren't they well-connected Saudis who organised and funded it? Who's family Uncle sent home instead of investigating?

Sure, But FD upholds the use of porkies in getting Afghanistan instead.

Freeeedom.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #159 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:34pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:29pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

Werent they saudis on the planes in that 11/9 thing?

Spot

Weren't they well-connected Saudis who organised and funded it? Who's family Uncle sent home instead of investigating?

Sure, But FD upholds the use of porkies in getting Afghanistan instead.

Freeeedom.

So MUSLIMS did 9/11, not Dubya???

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #160 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 3:37pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:32pm:

The bit about them treating women no better than the Taliban was transparent BS.

Sure, based on your BS fairy tales about pre-schoolers getting shot in the back of the head for reading the wrong stuff - in a "widespread" and "activey enforced policy" no less. Do you have any actual facts you can present to demonstrate that the Saudis treat women better than the taliban did?

In 2015, 52 percent of all university graduates in Saudi Arabia were female.

Do you really think I am the only one who considers the Taliban to be particularly bad, even by Muslim standards? And what is it with Muslims like you and Abu feeling compelled to defend the Taliban and attack the Saudis?

How many Saudi women get to work after getting those fabulous uni degrees FD?

The taliban are bad, even by muslim standards. Your mistake is thinking that calling out blatant lies about them somehow makes me think otherwise. It doesn't.

And I find it greatly disturbing that you don't think the Saudis are a huge threat to world peace on account of their huge wealth and the way they use it, and that its apparently ok to apologise for them when they engage in actual genocide and deploy terrorists all over the region (and beyond - in the case of 9/11). The taliban aren't a threat to anyone outside their own country.

The problem is you try to pretend that the Saudis are just as bad as the Taliban, as if not getting a job after leaving Uni is just as bad as a bullet in the back of the head for attending primary school. And I have been explaining this to you since long before your "outrageous porky" hysteria, so stop making up lies by pretending that is what I am basing this on.

You are defending the Taliban, just like Abu and probably every other Muslim who has posted here. Why?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #161 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 8:57pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Who ever claimed the opposite? What is required is for Christians to admit the errors of their ways and admit that their religion has as bloody a history as Islam does. Simples really and something you seem to keep avoiding for some reason

Not avoiding it at all. I'm saying Christian atrocities are no excuse for muslims to keep committing atrocities

Just because Christians commit atrocities, doesn't mean muslims should commit atrocities

And as I keep pointing out, no one has claimed it does, except you. Funny that - you erecting continually a strawman argument. You going to admit that Christianity has a long, bloody, brutal history leading right up to today? Roll Eyes

What do you mean am I going to admit it? I've never denied it.

Good. So why keep banging on about it in the way you are?

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But what's that got to do with muslims killing people, are you saying that muslims should kill people because Christians kill people?

Read the first sentence of my previous reply. I will not repeat myself. You are trolling. Run along back to your little kiddies' playground little child. Roll Eyes

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #162 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 9:01pm @ abu: Quote: That's right, dear. Moh banned all those things, so it's taqiyya upon taqiyya, no? moh banned what exactly? Give some examples where moh taught that muzzies are not to follow his depravities. Is the qur'an telling porkies as well now?
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Reply #163 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 10:54pm

moses wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

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That's right, dear. Moh banned all those things, so it's taqiyya upon taqiyya, no?

moh banned what exactly?

Give some examples where moh taught that muzzies are not to follow his depravities.

Is the qur'an telling porkies as well now?

Must be, Moses. All that human life is precious stuff is just taqiyya. Any Muslim who follows it is not a true Muslim, we all know that.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #164 - Sep 4^th, 2019 at 10:59pm

Frank wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:29pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

Werent they saudis on the planes in that 11/9 thing?

Spot

Weren't they well-connected Saudis who organised and funded it? Who's family Uncle sent home instead of investigating?

Sure, But FD upholds the use of porkies in getting Afghanistan instead.

Freeeedom.

So MUSLIMS did 9/11, not Dubya???

Well, yes. All Mr Bush did was invade the wrong countries.

An easy mishtake to make.

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