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Reply #165 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 9:52am

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:52pm:

as if not getting a job after leaving Uni is just as bad as a bullet in the back of the head for attending primary school.

A bullet to the back of the head cetainly would be worse than being an unemployed uni graduate. Whoever said it wasn't FD?

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 5:52pm:

so stop making up lies by pretending that is what I am basing this on.

Sorry FD, remind me again, which lie is it based on then? - the one about over 8s getting shot for going to school, or the one about under 8s getting shot for reading non-Quranic material? Or is possibly the one where you completely ignore or spinelessly apologise for all the human rights abuses and genocides committed by the Saudis and pretend Saudi Arabia is a paradise for women in comparison?

Nevermind FD, ignore that and just keep lecturing me about 'hysteria', no one wil notice.

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Reply #167 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 11:01am

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

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A bullet to the back of the head cetainly would be worse than being an unemployed uni graduate. Whoever said it wasn't FD?

You did when you said the Saudis treat women just as bad as the Taliban.

Funny. That could only be true if the taliban really did shoot little girls in the back of the head for attending school. And we know by your inability to come up with a shred of evidence that they did - and even worse your shamelessly dishonest attempts to blatantly mislead with wholly irrelevant evidence - that it isn't true.

The irony here is that we only know of one factual, documented instance of either regime killing school girls - which was the Saudis when they pushed them back into their burning dormitory for being immodestly dressed.

The problem FD, is that as you always do time and time again, you overreached with what could have been a legitimate criticism, and found yourself neck deep in out and out blatant lies. If you had said the taliban treat girls like crap, made them fear for their lives, and committed the unforgivable sin of banning them going to school - it would have been 100% correct and 100% acceptable. But no, you couldn't do that. Clearly because you committed yourself to the challenge of rubbishing the idea that the Saudis and the taliban were as bad as each other when it came to treatment of women. God knows why. Since you obviously know that the Saudis also treat their women like crap, you had to go one better. Of course you could have said something legitimate like 'well at least the Saudis don't ban girls from going to school - the taliban do' - would have been a great argument. Alas though, you resort to porkies. And when you go for porkies, you sure do go big. So it wasn't just that the taliban were known to shoot little girls in the head for attending school (which they weren't) - no, it was "widespread" and an "actively enforced policy" no less.

Arguably your pathetic attempts to pass off insurgent bombs that happened a decade later, or the case of Malala in Pakistan as somehow good proof of your claim was worse than the porky itself. Naturally you respond in your usual fashion - hysterically lashing out at taliban apologists and the usual "typical muslim" ad-homs.

Isn't it funny how every single one of the discussions you are involved in seem to end up this exact same way?

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Reply #168 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:07pm

Why did you join the muslims Gandalf, when you know what they're like? how they treat women, how they go around killing people, how they despise people of other religions or those who choose no faith. What were you thinking? Is it within you to consider becoming an agnostic or follow the Christian faith in it's more pure form, or just simply abide by the Ten Commandments?

Now if you were to say like Brian Ross says, that both muslims and Christians commit atrocities, then perhaps, like me, you would find that the most appropriate thing to do would be to drop religion altogether because that would place you as being "innocent" rather than taking sides in the murdering turmoil, in the name of religion, throughout the world. It's not politically correct to believe what Allah believes, and that is to shun disbelievers

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #169 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:10pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

Why did you join the muslims Gandalf, when you know what they're like? how they treat women, how they go around killing people, how they despise people of other religions or those who choose no faith. What were you thinking? Is it within you to consider becoming an agnostic or follow the Christian faith in it's more pure form, or just simply abide by the Ten Commandments?

Now if you were to say like Brian Ross says, that both muslims and Christians commit atrocities, then perhaps, like me, you would find that the most appropriate thing to do would be to drop religion altogether because that would place you as being "innocent" rather than taking sides in the murdering turmoil, in the name of religion, throughout the world. It's not politically correct to believe what Allah believes, and that is to shun disbelievers

Atheists commit atrocities too.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #171 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:31pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:18pm: Ivan milat was catholic - apparently he thinks hes going to heaven Spot Catholics are as bad as muslims. Both are the scourge of the Earth
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #172 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

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A bullet to the back of the head cetainly would be worse than being an unemployed uni graduate. Whoever said it wasn't FD?

You did when you said the Saudis treat women just as bad as the Taliban.

Funny. That could only be true if the taliban really did shoot little girls in the back of the head for attending school. And we know by your inability to come up with a shred of evidence that they did - and even worse your shamelessly dishonest attempts to blatantly mislead with wholly irrelevant evidence - that it isn't true.

The irony here is that we only know of one factual, documented instance of either regime killing school girls - which was the Saudis when they pushed them back into their burning dormitory for being immodestly dressed.

The problem FD, is that as you always do time and time again, you overreached with what could have been a legitimate criticism, and found yourself neck deep in out and out blatant lies. If you had said the taliban treat girls like crap, made them fear for their lives, and committed the unforgivable sin of banning them going to school - it would have been 100% correct and 100% acceptable. But no, you couldn't do that. Clearly because you committed yourself to the challenge of rubbishing the idea that the Saudis and the taliban were as bad as each other when it came to treatment of women. God knows why. Since you obviously know that the Saudis also treat their women like crap, you had to go one better. Of course you could have said something legitimate like 'well at least the Saudis don't ban girls from going to school - the taliban do' - would have been a great argument. Alas though, you resort to porkies. And when you go for porkies, you sure do go big. So it wasn't just that the taliban were known to shoot little girls in the head for attending school (which they weren't) - no, it was "widespread" and an "actively enforced policy" no less.

Arguably your pathetic attempts to pass off insurgent bombs that happened a decade later, or the case of Malala in Pakistan as somehow good proof of your claim was worse than the porky itself. Naturally you respond in your usual fashion - hysterically lashing out at taliban apologists and the usual "typical muslim" ad-homs.

Isn't it funny how every single one of the discussions you are involved in seem to end up this exact same way?

Are you upset because they shot Malala in the face rather than the back of the head? Is that what makes them no worse than the Saudis?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #174 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 1:00pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

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A bullet to the back of the head cetainly would be worse than being an unemployed uni graduate. Whoever said it wasn't FD?

You did when you said the Saudis treat women just as bad as the Taliban.

Funny. That could only be true if the taliban really did shoot little girls in the back of the head for attending school. And we know by your inability to come up with a shred of evidence that they did - and even worse your shamelessly dishonest attempts to blatantly mislead with wholly irrelevant evidence - that it isn't true.

The irony here is that we only know of one factual, documented instance of either regime killing school girls - which was the Saudis when they pushed them back into their burning dormitory for being immodestly dressed.

The problem FD, is that as you always do time and time again, you overreached with what could have been a legitimate criticism, and found yourself neck deep in out and out blatant lies. If you had said the taliban treat girls like crap, made them fear for their lives, and committed the unforgivable sin of banning them going to school - it would have been 100% correct and 100% acceptable. But no, you couldn't do that. Clearly because you committed yourself to the challenge of rubbishing the idea that the Saudis and the taliban were as bad as each other when it came to treatment of women. God knows why. Since you obviously know that the Saudis also treat their women like crap, you had to go one better. Of course you could have said something legitimate like 'well at least the Saudis don't ban girls from going to school - the taliban do' - would have been a great argument. Alas though, you resort to porkies. And when you go for porkies, you sure do go big. So it wasn't just that the taliban were known to shoot little girls in the head for attending school (which they weren't) - no, it was "widespread" and an "actively enforced policy" no less.

Arguably your pathetic attempts to pass off insurgent bombs that happened a decade later, or the case of Malala in Pakistan as somehow good proof of your claim was worse than the porky itself. Naturally you respond in your usual fashion - hysterically lashing out at taliban apologists and the usual "typical muslim" ad-homs.

Isn't it funny how every single one of the discussions you are involved in seem to end up this exact same way?

Are you upset because they shot Malala in the face rather than the back of the head? Is that what makes them no worse than the Saudis?

Given up even pretending to argue your case have you FD?

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Reply #175 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 1:53pm

I cannot figure out what point you are trying to make Gandalf. It was a length post, but did not actually say anything. Are you denying that the Taliban killed students and teachers in an effort to put a stop to girls' education? Or just being pedantic about anatomy? Last time we went here you quickly changed the subject.

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Reply #176 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 3:44pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

I cannot figure out what point you are trying to make Gandalf. It was a length post, but did not actually say anything.

Long story short, you lied.

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

Are you denying that the Taliban killed students and teachers in an effort to put a stop to girls' education?

I deny that you have presented any shred of evidence that the taliban regime in Afghanistan during their rule (1996-2001) killed a single girl over 8 for attending school, or killed a single girl under 8 for reading non-Quranic material - as you claimed.

You did in fact invent the whole story. That is also known as a big fat porky, or lie.

And every time you feel compelled to give some pretense of justifying your BS claim, you resort to anecdotes like Malala that are completely irrelevant to the original claim about the Taliban rule 1996-2001.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #178 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 3:48pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

I cannot figure out what point you are trying to make Gandalf. It was a length post, but did not actually say anything. Are you denying that the Taliban killed students and teachers in an effort to put a stop to girls' education? Or just being pedantic about anatomy? Last time we went here you quickly changed the subject.

Thanks for clearing that one up, FD. They may have shot them anywhere in the anterior part of the cranium. The Taliban made this clear in the white paper.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95724 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #179 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 3:51pm freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 3:47pm: Do you think wikipedia was misleading people when they said that students and teachers risked death under the Taliban? Do you think the people at Wikipedia are apologists for not describing the policy in full?
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