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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #285 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 2:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:04pm:
Gandalf will say that is not good enough Frank. With the letterbox outfit on you cannot tell whether the Taliban are shooting that girl in the face or the back of the head. Or her age. Abracadaver, the Taliban are really no worse than the Saudis.


Tell me FD, what point did you actually think you were making when you made this post?

I'm not sure if you are seriously implying that this is good evidence for, or even has any relevance of a taliban policy of shooting school kids for going to school.

Could your contributions here really have descended to such depths of stupidity?

If it hasn't, then why were you saying anything about this picture at all - that wasn't the only appropriate thing to say - namely that it is a picture of a woman being executed for killing her husband - and therefore entirely irrelevant, not to mention misleading (dishonestly so), to the topic?
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #287 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 3:24pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:45am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:50am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 7:58pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
We need proof FD was telling a porky Abu


We've got it. You're saying he told the truth.

Now why would you say that?


You tell porkies too? I didn't expect you of all righteous people to tell a porky about me

Now where's your proof that FD told a porky? help Gandalf out here


Oh, now you want to read the proof, eh?

Can I suggest you go back and read the thread? Come back if you have any questions, dear.

I'm sure FD will be more than happy to answer them.


You're as thick as a brick Abu. Come up with some proof that FD lied

Gandalf's accusation against FD is not substantiated by just saying FD lied - you need proof, and your imagination is not proof


I didn't "just say" FD lied, I clearly and methodically laid out the facts and demonstrated how FD so brazenly and blatantly just made the whole thing up. Its all there in this thread and the one I referenced in the OP.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #288 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 3:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:04pm:
Gandalf will say that is not good enough Frank. With the letterbox outfit on you cannot tell whether the Taliban are shooting that girl in the face or the back of the head. Or her age. Abracadaver, the Taliban are really no worse than the Saudis.


Or you could just click on the link and find out for yourself.

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Public execution of a woman, known as Zarmeena, by the Taliban at the Ghazi Sports Stadium, Kabul, November 16, 1999. The mother of seven children had been found guilty of killing her husband while he slept, after allegedly being beaten by him.[28][29]


They left out her age, dear. Typical.


I'm not sure what is more shocking - Frank's blatant porky, or FD thinking there's nothing wrong with it and whose only response is to attack someone else.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #289 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 5:05pm
 
Still no mention or denunciation of the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates muzzies to kill little girls in the name of allah.

Only gnashing of teeth and wailing rivers of crocodile tears, because some one got the age of the victim wrong.

Self righteous hypocrisy at its worst.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #290 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:41pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What didn't happen at all?


girls getting shot for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?


Thats one of the more stupid comments in this discussion FD - and thats really saying something.

Wikipedia: vague statement about how girls "risked execution" if they attended school - without giving a single example of any such execution actually happening.

FD: therefore the taliban definitely had a 'widespread' and 'widely enforced policy' of lining up little girls and shooting them in the back of the head for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #291 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:49pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:04pm:
Gandalf will say that is not good enough Frank. With the letterbox outfit on you cannot tell whether the Taliban are shooting that girl in the face or the back of the head. Or her age. Abracadaver, the Taliban are really no worse than the Saudis.


Or you could just click on the link and find out for yourself.

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Public execution of a woman, known as Zarmeena, by the Taliban at the Ghazi Sports Stadium, Kabul, November 16, 1999. The mother of seven children had been found guilty of killing her husband while he slept, after allegedly being beaten by him.[28][29]


They left out her age, dear. Typical.


I'm not sure what is more shocking - Frank's blatant porky, or FD thinking there's nothing wrong with it and whose only response is to attack someone else.


Shocking? The old boy's response was to accuse poor old Abu of being a "paki son of Bwian/Gandalf/Turd/[your lying propagandist shill's insert name here]".

FD's response was to call a mother of 7 a girl in a letterbox outfit.

Not shocking at all, G. Predicted.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #292 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What didn't happen at all?


girls getting shot for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?


Thats one of the more stupid comments in this discussion FD - and thats really saying something.

Wikipedia: vague statement about how girls "risked execution" if they attended school - without giving a single example of any such execution actually happening.

FD: therefore the taliban definitely had a 'widespread' and 'widely enforced policy' of lining up little girls and shooting them in the back of the head for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?


I think it is, FD. Wikipedia has clearly censored the bit about the actively-enforced Taliban policy of shooting 8 year old girls in the back of the head for being in a classroom.

Wikipedia must be pro-Taliban too eh?
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #293 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 7:35pm
 
islam and little girls:

The Islamic Hate That Killed a Little Girl Still Haunts Toulouse -- “Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."

Seven years ago, Mohammed Merah pointed a gun at the head of 7-year-old Miriam Monsonego.

The blonde little girl was the daughter of the school principal and moments ago had been playing in a French schoolyard. The Monsonego family were Jewish immigrants from Morocco. The Ozar HaTorah school invaded by the Muslim terrorist was home to the children of Jewish refugees from North Africa and the Middle East who had fled to France after their countries had fallen to Muslim rule.

Before Miriam, Mohammed had murdered a Rabbi and his two little boys, six and three years old. The other children ran. He cornered Miriam, grabbed the little girl by her hair, and pulled the trigger.

The prophet of Islam, “told us about the final and decisive battle: ‘Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.'"


Then we have:

In many Islamic countries, however, 8 year old girls are donning fancy white dresses and going to get married to adult men. 

An 8 year old little girl named Rawan died from injuries sustained within her young, immature body when her 40 year old husband had intercourse with her.  The child bled to death in this perverted parody of a marriage after she was sold to her “husband” by her impoverished family.

It would be horrific enough if this was a one-time tragedy, but this is a regular custom for young Muslim girls, especially in impoverished countries.  In 2010, a 13 year old girl (a 7th grader in America) died the same way – she hemorrhaged for 5 days  until she bled to death after wedding night sex with her husband.  Also in 2010, another 12 year old girl  died in labor after struggling to give birth for 3 days.

Due to its many endorsements within Islamic scripture, child marriages are permitted by the majority of Muslim scholars and leaders, and in many Islamic countries it is common practice. Girls far below the age of puberty are forcibly married to older persons (sometimes in their 50s and later) for various personal gains by the girls’ guardian or with the intention to preserve family honor by helping her avoid pre-marital sex.

Pedophilic Islamic marriages are most prevalent in Pakistan and Afghanistan, followed by other countries in the Middle East and Bangladesh.[5][6] This practice may also be prevalent to a lesser extent amongst other Muslim communities, and is on the rise among the growing Muslim populations in many non-Muslim countries, such as the United Kingdom[7] and the United States.[8]

In countries like Yemen, Bangladesh, Iran, and Northern Nigeria, attempts at reforming laws and banning child marriages have been opposed and stopped on the grounds that such a ban would be un-Islamic,[9][10][11][12][13] and in the case of Malaysia, the growing Muslim population has effectively turned back the clock on social progress by passing new laws which allow for the practice of pedophilic marriages specifically between followers of Islam.[14]


No wonder the loony left love them.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #294 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:25pm
 
The Abu-karnal-gandalf-Bwian axis is forever kvetching about procedural minutiae - was she 8 or 12, was she 6 pr 9, was she violated, shot in the head, from the back or the front, can people make laws or has Allah prescribed all laws already for eternity, etc, etc.  They argue, in short, aabout all the contingencies of islam and endlessly string out meaningless arguments about detail IN ORDER to avoid the substance of Islam IsIalm.

The rest of us are point out, repeatedly, that the IDEOLOGY  (substance) of Islam is anti-Western in all its aspects, and devotees of Islam cannot be devotees of what the West stands for.

We see this every day but the axis denies it on the grounds of irrelevant technical details and furphies ('vast majority, tiny minority' etc.


Islam is NOT for the betterment of Western civilisation - the fruit of a long unfolding - but for its replacements with Islam - a totally anti-Western and therefore anti-freedom and inhumane submissive, oppressive ideology.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #295 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 9:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
The Abu-karnal-gandalf-Bwian axis is forever kvetching about procedural minutiae - was she 8 or 12, was she 6 pr 9, was she violated, shot in the head, from the back or the front, can people make laws or has Allah prescribed all laws already for eternity, etc, etc.  They argue, in short, aabout all the contingencies of islam and endlessly string out meaningless arguments about detail IN ORDER to avoid the substance of Islam IsIalm.

The rest of us are point out, repeatedly, that the IDEOLOGY  (substance) of Islam is anti-Western in all its aspects, and devotees of Islam cannot be devotees of what the West stands for.

We see this every day but the axis denies it on the grounds of irrelevant technical details and furphies ('vast majority, tiny minority' etc.


Islam is NOT for the betterment of Western civilisation - the fruit of a long unfolding - but for its replacements with Islam - a totally anti-Western and therefore anti-freedom and inhumane submissive, oppressive ideology.


Quite so. The difference between the death penalty for murder and the shooting of 8 year old girls learning how to read and write is just a furphy. What's the difference between executing adults and young children anyway?

It makes no difference to the Muselman. After all, you've provided photographic evidence of them shooting one in the head (we think).

It's hard to tell in that letterbox outfit.

Always absolutely never ever, old chap. Anti-Western, anti-freedom, anti-truth, etc. The Paki/Brian/Turd axis will always try to spoil your fun, as shurely as your Muselman kills off his 8 year old girls/murderers.

It's never made any difference to him, no?
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Reply #296 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 9:11pm
 
Still no mention or denunciation of the evil in the Bible which causes and motivates Christians to kill little girls in the name of Yahweh.

Only gnashing of teeth and wailing rivers of crocodile tears, because some one denied the atrocities committed by the Christians.

Self righteous hypocrisy at its worst.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #297 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 9:17pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
The Abu-karnal-gandalf-Bwian axis is forever kvetching about procedural minutiae - was she 8 or 12, was she 6 pr 9, was she violated, shot in the head, from the back or the front, can people make laws or has Allah prescribed all laws already for eternity, etc, etc.  They argue, in short, aabout all the contingencies of islam and endlessly string out meaningless arguments about detail IN ORDER to avoid the substance of Islam IsIalm.


You really need to calm down, Soren.  You seem to be repeating yourself there.  You also seem to be levelling against me charges which I have never committed.  Care to provide a link to where I have argued about "procedual minutiae" such as the age of anybody?  Of course, your failure to do so, or apologise I will accept as another flag of surrender...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The rest of us are point out, repeatedly, that the IDEOLOGY  (substance) of Islam is anti-Western in all its aspects, and devotees of Islam cannot be devotees of what the West stands for.


Yet I have met Muslims who are committed to what the West stands for, Soren.  I think, I really think, you need to get out and meet Muslims, rather than just relying on your Islamophobia websites to inform you about what Muslims really are thinking.  Roll Eyes

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We see this every day but the axis denies it on the grounds of irrelevant technical details and furphies ('vast majority, tiny minority' etc.

Islam is NOT for the betterment of Western civilisation - the fruit of a long unfolding - but for its replacements with Islam - a totally anti-Western and therefore anti-freedom and inhumane submissive, oppressive ideology.


Muslims are not anti-West, Soren.  Your letting your fantasies run away with you again.  I recommend that you up your medication.  It will make reality, well more real.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #298 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 9:11am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:58am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What didn't happen at all?


girls getting shot for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?


Thats one of the more stupid comments in this discussion FD - and thats really saying something.

Wikipedia: vague statement about how girls "risked execution" if they attended school - without giving a single example of any such execution actually happening.

FD: therefore the taliban definitely had a 'widespread' and 'widely enforced policy' of lining up little girls and shooting them in the back of the head for attending school


Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?


not really. Though what I think I can say for certain is that the person who made that claim didn't have a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy" of executing little girls in mind. The point was a general one about the taliban's hostility to girl's schooling, as well as there propensity to violence - and the obvious risk this posed to girls who. No one is disputing that, and no one is apologising for that.

What abolutely *IS* misleading though is to somehow use that general point as proof that they had a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the head for going to school or reading.

What you would expect if such a policy existed was for your "evidence" to actually say so. Accounts of it happening, anecdote of even a single execution... alas nothing. Literally the only account of anything happening to anyone in either of your articles was the statement that teachers (not even students) were known to be gaoled and/or tortured for teaching girls.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #299 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 9:19am
 
FD I think Abu might be on to something.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and edit that wiki article to put plainly and clearly what you are so sure is the truth: that the taliban regime had a widespread and actively enforced policy of shooting little girls in the back of the head for going to school?

Then next time you're accuse of lying about it, you can simply quote your own line and gleefully declare "see - its in wikipedia!"

After all, I'm sure the spineless apologist wording of the article in its current state must bother you: ie using the weasel words "girls risked execution" for going to school, when what it really should say is 'girls were routinely lined up and shot in the back of the head in a widespread and actively enforced policy'
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