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Reply #375 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 8:42pm

Frank wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 1:35pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 7:23pm:

Food - the belly, the god of atheists. That's all Multiculturalist have, their beliies. A greater variety of food. Oral, digestive bliss - childish retardation. In any case, you do not need to import vast number of thirldy worldy non-cooks to have thai or yum cha or curry. You can buy the cook book. Online.

You're obviously a devotee of Margaret Fulton's recipes then, aren't you, Soren? You know, where you substitute ordinary, everyday, available Australian ingredients for all those nasty spices and herbs those foreigners use, right? Roll Eyes

Without Multiculturalism we would never have gotten to taste real ethnic cuisines, the way they are cooked in their home countries and guess what? You can do that now, in any Australian city. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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The whole monocultural tut-tutting is complete nonsense, no matter how often it is repeated - and it is repeated all the time the topic comes up because the proponents of multicultural lies have nothing else. Western civilisation is the most dynamic, innovative and influential civilisation going. It has shaped the world like no other, over the last 400 years. Multiculturalism is a neology, invented about 40-50 years ago precisely to facilitate the knee-capping the most innovative and beneficial civilisation by the resenters whose cultures - most have no civilisation - have proved to be inferior, which is why they fled to the West.

Fleeing to the west does not deny the West it's dynamism, Soren. It is what makes it dynamic. It is what makes it adaptable. Their cultures are what makes the West wonderful. You seem to believe it is 100% one or 100% the other, Soren. In reality, its 50% one, 20% the other and another 5% from several others. You seem to believe that the West has become what it has, without any imports from other cultures. How silly you are. You really need to study some modern cultural history. Roll Eyes

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The Abos and red indians and the African 'national' liberationists like Mugabe et al didn't get your idiotic memo about 'monoculture is boring'. They are livid about their monoculture being swept aside. Are you going to mock them? Of course not. You are an ignorant demagogue, banging on about things you not even half-comprehend.

Those that believe that, don't last long in a truly Multicultural society, Soren. You won't last long in our dynamic, cosmopolitan, Multicultural society. You are a Dinosaur. Your attitudes are dying out. Roll Eyes

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'Multiculturalism' is always only ever applied to the West, as a way to tear it down, diminish it, resent it, snarl at it.

Never been to India? Never been to China? Never been to Malaysia? Never been to any other countries, apart from what, Denmark, Italy and Australia. Poor, poor, Soren that you have missed so much because of your cultural blindness. Roll Eyes

Repeating the Big Lie is the modus operandi of all multiculti cadres.

China - a communist dictatorship where any other culture that is against the communist ideology is suppressed. The Muslims are not getting along with the program, I hear. Has that news penetrated to the unmoored outer reaches of WA you inhabit?

India - the Hindu-Muslim harmony there is palpable and another success story, isn't it, silly duffer?

Malaysia, Indonesia- pogroms and discrimination against the Chinese, Christians, Islamic religious tensions - not my idea of multiculturalism even if it's yours, duffer.

I do not see what the cultural bond between Muslims, Vietnamese Buddhists, Korean Christians and Chinese of many persuasions is, let alone what would bind them to Western civilisational and cultural values. Yes, there are lots of Chinese students at the Conservatoriums of Australia, but I don't see Muslims or Africans. Multiculti propaganda is alwayss only about the Western host population to adapt to all sorts of incoming creeds, it is never about how those great many varieties of incompatible beliefs and customs will adapt to each other or (how wacist to even think it) to the resident Western, white populations. I have not heard, ever, any urging of Muslims, Africans, Chinese, Aborigines or Indians to leave behind any of their more bizarro cultural practices (ie THEIR monoculture) and get Westernised, civilised and assimilate.

Multiculturalism was meant to break down over-nationalistic, chauvinistic barriers between EUROPEAN nations during and after WWII, just as the refugee convention was about European refugees. European countries are culturally close. Extending multiculturalism and thee refugee convention to culturally distant and even incompatible peoples was never the intention and since it's been happening it has been the source of friction and uneasy and rebellion, so far only political.

In the 1970s, eh? When we were receiving Vietnamese boat people, when we'd just abandoned the White Australia Policy.

Multiculturalism's for everyone. And you're as welcome as any of the Chinks. Chows, Curries and Jigaboos.

Chin up, dear boy, don't let it make you feel inferior.

Remember, you flew here.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #376 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:03pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 5:48pm:

It will never become one???? never is a long time boofhead.

As long as people such as yourself are not allowed to get in control, I really cannot see it happening, Hammer. :roll:

It's not people like me who are the problem. It's people like you. Playing experimental policies with our country. What a risk.

Nothing experimental at all, Hammer. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #377 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:19pm

Frank wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

Repeating the Big Lie is the modus operandi of all multiculti cadres.

China - a communist dictatorship where any other culture that is against the communist ideology is suppressed. The Muslims are not getting along with the program, I hear. Has that news penetrated to the unmoored outer reaches of WA you inhabit?

Well, apart from you not understanding where I live, Soren, what you appear to be mixing up is politics versus culture. In the PRC there are over 200 recognised by the Government, different minorities and nearly a thousand or more different cultures. As long as the cultures or ethnicities don't mix with politics, they are tolerated, nay even encouraged. The Muslims out of Xinjiang Province are doing perfectly fine. Look at this map:

Notice how Xinjiang is only one province and it doesn't even contain the greatest number of Muslims. All the other provinces are getting along fine with being in the PRC, funny that. Seems Xinjiang and the Uyghurs don't like it. Roll Eyes

Your problem - your most basic problem, Soren is that you refuse to acknowledge that you are out of step with the majority of Australia's population. 85% of whom support Multiculturalism. Remember, you flew here, I grew here. I am well acquainted with Multiculturalism and its effects. It works for the overwhelming majority of Australians, most of the time. You delight in pointing out it's failures without acknowledging it's numerous successes.

Now, get with the flow, Soren. Otherwise, piss off back to Denmark. Ooops, guess what? It's Multicultural as well now... :roll:

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #378 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:19pm: the majority of Australia's population. 85% of whom support Multiculturalism 70% of that 85% would be ethnics and recent arrivals
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95964 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #379 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 12:09am Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:19pm: the majority of Australia's population. 85% of whom support Multiculturalism 70% of that 85% would be ethnics and recent arrivals Like the old boy? Shurely shome mishtake.
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #380 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 11:53am

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Sep 9^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9^th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 10:58am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 10:39am:

What didn't happen at all?

girls getting shot for attending school

Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?

Thats one of the more stupid comments in this discussion FD - and thats really saying something.

Wikipedia: vague statement about how girls "risked execution" if they attended school - without giving a single example of any such execution actually happening.

FD: therefore the taliban definitely had a 'widespread' and 'widely enforced policy' of lining up little girls and shooting them in the back of the head for attending school

Do you think Wikipedia is being misleading by saying they risked execution if it never happened at all?

not really. Though what I think I can say for certain is that the person who made that claim didn't have a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy" of executing little girls in mind. The point was a general one about the taliban's hostility to girl's schooling, as well as there propensity to violence - and the obvious risk this posed to girls who. No one is disputing that, and no one is apologising for that.

What abolutely *IS* misleading though is to somehow use that general point as proof that they had a "widespread" and "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the head for going to school or reading.

What you would expect if such a policy existed was for your "evidence" to actually say so. Accounts of it happening, anecdote of even a single execution... alas nothing. Literally the only account of anything happening to anyone in either of your articles was the statement that teachers (not even students) were known to be gaoled and/or tortured for teaching girls.

So the "risk" that the wikipedia article is referring to is a general one about the risk of the Taliban using deadly violence in this context and does not imply that it ever actually happened?

This is beyond pathetic FD. The most desparate grasping of straws now combines with your customary slippery, evasive goal-post shifting.

Notice how we've gone from a very specific policy that was apparently "widespread" and "actively enforced" to the latest 'well the use of phrase 'risked execution' means you can't say such executions never happened!'

Still not a single piece of evidence of any girl actually being executed. Golly you would think all the islamophobes out there would have picked up something - no? Amazing not even jihad watch has anything on this "actively enforced policy". No wonder then that you pounce on Soren's picture of a murderer being executed and accept without question that its definitely a little girl being executed for going to school.

Funny also that you have run a million miles from the under 8s being shot for reading non-Quranic material.

No, you are just reduced to pathetic rhetorical questions to make the most tenuous and desparate of reaches.

FD at his most pitiful.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #381 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 12:01pm

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2019 at 6:04pm:

I was not lying and claimed what you are now trying to twist, knowingly.

You are taking the piss right?

Referring to a clearly labelled picture of a woman being executed for murdering her husband you asked in clear black and white:

"What was the fate of the Talib who shot this particular school girl?"

Would you like to retract the claim that you were not lying Frank?

Honestly, you were far more likable when you just proudly owned your fibs, rather than attempting FD-like contortions to try and hide your lies.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #382 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 2:35pm

Ah yes today 2019:

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of immigrants roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

All the result of whiteys who are indoctrinated with loony left ideology and our unassimilated migrants who are encouraged by the left to do their own thing.

To get back on topic,we have hypocrites preening and prancing as they dance around the fact that islam is a death cult, responsible for unimaginable rape torture and mass murder being carried out in the name of allah on a daily basis around our fair planet.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #383 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 3:38pm

moses wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

Ah yes today 2019:

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of immigrants roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

All the result of whiteys who are indoctrinated with loony left ideology and our unassimilated migrants who are encouraged by the left to do their own thing.

To get back on topic,we have hypocrites preening and prancing as they dance around the fact that islam is a death cult, responsible for unimaginable rape torture and mass murder being carried out in the name of allah on a daily basis around our fair planet.

You do understand that crime rates across the board have been steadily plumetting throughout the west for the last 2 or 3 decades right?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #384 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 3:59pm

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You do understand that crime rates across the board have been steadily plumetting throughout the west for the last 2 or 3 decades right?

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of immigrants roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

Does this happen or not gandi?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #385 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 5:51pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:19pm:

the majority of Australia's population. 85% of whom support Multiculturalism

70% of that 85% would be ethnics and recent arrivals

Really? And your evidence for that is, exactly what, Bias?

Appears you're just being a Xenophobe, old chap. Tsk, tsk. Nothing new, hey? Roll Eyes

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Reply #386 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 5:54pm

Ah yes today 2019:

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of lawless law breakers roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

All the result of whiteys who are indoctrinated with loony Right ideology and our maligned migrants who are encouraged by the Right to ignore the law.

To get back on topic,we have hypocrites preening and prancing as they dance around the fact that Christianity is a death cult, responsible for unimaginable rape torture and mass murder being carried out in the name of Yahweh on a daily basis around our fair planet. Roll Eyes

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Reply #387 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:33pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2019 at 6:04pm:

I was not lying and claimed what you are now trying to twist, knowingly.

You are taking the piss right?

Referring to a clearly labelled picture of a woman being executed for murdering her husband you asked in clear black and white:

"What was the fate of the Talib who shot this particular school girl?"

Would you like to retract the claim that you were not lying Frank?

Honestly, you were far more likable when you just proudly owned your fibs, rather than attempting FD-like contortions to try and hide your lies.

Enough lying, son of Mohammed.

I said a few pages ago:

I was not lying and claimed what you are now trying to twist, knowingly. My post had pictures from the Wikipedia article on women's treatment by the Taliban in Afghanistan. I also posted an article from Time.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1567134066/246#246

Malala Yousufzai WAS shot in the head by the Taliban FOR going to school. We have pictures only of the result, not the act. But I did ask, re 'you idiotic ddissembling about policy, whether the shooter was ever repri,anded by the Taliban by going rougue, as you idiotically try to insinuate. The answer is no. he was carrying out Talioban policy. See also https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/world/asia/taliban-girls-schools.html

The Taliban DO mistreat women, they DO attack schools, the DO kill schoolgirls. And not only in Afghanistan but in Paki's homeland (Peshawar massacre) as well. And the Talibs are not alone. Chechen jihadis have proven themselves to be as bloodthirsty and evil in Veslan and elsewhere.

And you have the hide and the cheek (hide 'n cheek Shocked) to act miffed, as if the gruesome jihadis have been miswepwesented and their good name besmirched.i

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Reply #388 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

Ah yes today 2019:

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of lawless law breakers roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

All the result of whiteys who are indoctrinated with loony Right ideology and our maligned migrants who are encouraged by the Right to ignore the law.

To get back on topic,we have hypocrites preening and prancing as they dance around the fact that Christianity is a death cult, responsible for unimaginable rape torture and mass murder being carried out in the name of Yahweh on a daily basis around our fair planet. Roll Eyes

That's it?? That's your limit of argument and imagination - to change someone else's post?

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Reply #389 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:48pm

Frank wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

Ah yes today 2019:

Old people are warned to lock them selves in their own homes, all people must lock their cars, elderly women will be robbed of their possessions if they walk alone, little girls will be raped if they walk alone at night, gangs of lawless law breakers roam the streets bashing raping and robbing innocent people.

All the result of whiteys who are indoctrinated with loony Right ideology and our maligned migrants who are encouraged by the Right to ignore the law.

To get back on topic,we have hypocrites preening and prancing as they dance around the fact that Christianity is a death cult, responsible for unimaginable rape torture and mass murder being carried out in the name of Yahweh on a daily basis around our fair planet. Roll Eyes

That's it?? That's your limit of argument and imagination - to change someone else's post?

thats all an idealogue can do. Cheesy

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