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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #75 - Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 8:46pm:

Christians massacred many peoples, many different religions over the last 2000 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGbqSl7MF_c

That's no excuse for muslims to keep committing atrocities

Didn't claim it was. However, it and other massacres such as the 1916 Uprising in Dublin shows, Christians are not blameless and needs to clean up their own act, don't you think? Roll Eyes

How many muslims did Christians massacre in Dublin?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #76 - Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:08pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 4:28pm:

Islam a religion of peace - that's the most outrageous porkie peddled here or anywhere.

Oh, I can think of another, old boy: your self-professed superiority. Your sycophantic Anglophilia is no more than an attempt to mask your deeply engrained sense of shame. You try to cover up your stool-fancying inferiority-complex with your pretentious, mealy-mouthed porkies - much the same way a poodle makes a token effort to cover up his sht. But do you know?

We understand. We wouldn't have it any other way. You, dear chap, are the old boy. You have always been the old boy.

Always absolutely never ever.

Danes made England. Even the Normans were Danes. Dont you try forgetting, silly old paki arse bandit. No ten rupee for you.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #77 - Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:24pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 8:46pm:

Christians massacred many peoples, many different religions over the last 2000 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGbqSl7MF_c

That's no excuse for muslims to keep committing atrocities

Didn't claim it was. However, it and other massacres such as the 1916 Uprising in Dublin shows, Christians are not blameless and needs to clean up their own act, don't you think? Roll Eyes

How many muslims did Christians massacre in Dublin?

No idea. However, see the highlighted text. Other religions were massacred by Christians, including their fellow Christians. Roll Eyes

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #78 - Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:29pm In the meantime, Christian atrocities are no excuse for muslims to commit atrocities
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #79 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 2:30am

Frank wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 4:28pm:

Islam a religion of peace - that's the most outrageous porkie peddled here or anywhere.

Oh, I can think of another, old boy: your self-professed superiority. Your sycophantic Anglophilia is no more than an attempt to mask your deeply engrained sense of shame. You try to cover up your stool-fancying inferiority-complex with your pretentious, mealy-mouthed porkies - much the same way a poodle makes a token effort to cover up his sht. But do you know?

We understand. We wouldn't have it any other way. You, dear chap, are the old boy. You have always been the old boy.

Always absolutely never ever.

Danes made England. Even the Normans were Danes. Dont you try forgetting, silly old paki arse bandit. No ten rupee for you.

Oh, I see. Danish now, are you?

Good show. How's that assimilating going, old chap? Decided to speak English, have you?

You stick with us. We'll have you in a suit and hat and shouting schooners in no time.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49004 At my desk.	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #80 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #81 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 9:42am

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

How could he ?

Is a real Doctor of Divinity, going to contradict Allah, and criticise those who are followers of ISLAM ?

The virtuous people.....

Believers.

STRAIGHT FROM ALLAH'S LIPS.....

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

I don't think so.

Brian_Ross said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379197632/34#34

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #82 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 10:42am

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2019 at 6:44pm:

That, and the bit I quoted where it said the Taliban was killing students and teachers. You went to the trouble of doing a big copy and paste from wikipedia, claiming it was my evidence. How did you manage to leave both of those bits out

No FD, there is no quote.

What you are thinking of is the line about the taliban bombing schools over a decade after during the insurgency. I haven't "left that bit out" - I have pointed out that is irrelevant to your claim - repeatedly.

As I keep saying, we were talking about policies of the taliban 1996-2001 - as in 'oh how can you possibly say we should have negotiated with the taliban in 2001 (instead of invading) - after all, they had an "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the back of the head for reading non-Quranic material'. Thats the lie we're talking about FD. It never happened, you can't substantiate the baseless claim that it happened - and now you are resorting to citing what happened over a decade after the fact.

Remind me again FD, how you can be so shameless as to go from 'students and teachers risked execution' and 'schools were bombed' [over a decade later] to an "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the back of the head for a) going to school and b) reading non-Quranic material (if they were under 8).

Are you going to at least man-up and concede that you lied about the under 8s and reading non-Quranic material? You do acknowledge that there isn't a single reference to girls under 8 and what they were or weren't allowed to read right?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #83 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 10:55am

Gordon wrote on Aug 31^st, 2019 at 5:53pm:

Hey Gandalf, lets say for arguments sake there is some embellishment or poetic license taken in the post you've mentioned. Why bother arguing on behalf of the Taliban at all?

Their beliefs and regime is the most backwards life sucking force of evil on the planet.

You arguing on their behalf is about as ridiculous as someone defending Hitlers testicle count against the Colonel Bogey March song.

This is the exact sort of "porkies don't matter" defence I was warning against.

Lies matter, and I have given a fairly lengthy response already on why that is.

Saddam was bad, yet for some reason we had to make him even worse with porkies - the incubator babies from Gulf War 1 and Howard's human shredder. Then there's the whole WMD thing.

No one can deny these porkies mattered in terms of what happened next.

We started wars justified at least in part on lies. Pure and simple.

The 8 year old and under executions lie is FD's equivalent. Afghanistan was a clusterfvuk and shouldn't have happened. It needn't have happened. Yet FD needs to maintain the idea that there was literally no other choice. To do this he has to paint the taliban as beyond he pale. Apparently the truth (which I thought was bad enough), isn't sufficient. So he makes up porkies.

Do you see a pattern here? Lies to make already bad people appear even worse, justify war and undoubtedly assist with making them happen.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #84 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 11:01am

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 10:42am:

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2019 at 6:44pm:

That, and the bit I quoted where it said the Taliban was killing students and teachers. You went to the trouble of doing a big copy and paste from wikipedia, claiming it was my evidence. How did you manage to leave both of those bits out

No FD, there is no quote.

What you are thinking of is the line about the taliban bombing schools over a decade after during the insurgency. I haven't "left that bit out" - I have pointed out that is irrelevant to your claim - repeatedly.

As I keep saying, we were talking about policies of the taliban 1996-2001 - as in 'oh how can you possibly say we should have negotiated with the taliban in 2001 (instead of invading) - after all, they had an "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the back of the head for reading non-Quranic material'. Thats the lie we're talking about FD. It never happened, you can't substantiate the baseless claim that it happened - and now you are resorting to citing what happened over a decade after the fact.

Remind me again FD, how you can be so shameless as to go from 'students and teachers risked execution' and 'schools were bombed' [over a decade later] to an "actively enforced policy" of shooting little girls in the back of the head for a) going to school and b) reading non-Quranic material (if they were under 8).

Are you going to at least man-up and concede that you lied about the under 8s and reading non-Quranic material? You do acknowledge that there isn't a single reference to girls under 8 and what they were or weren't allowed to read right?

I copied the quote into this thread for you Gandalf. I even highlighted the bit about them killing students and teachers for you, in the vain hope that you would not miss it again and keep dribbling on about me not providing the quote. I have probably done this for you a dozen times already.

Why are you working so hard at providing propaganda for the Taliban? Was Abu correct that Islam requires Muslims to instinctively and uncritically support other Muslims against the infidel?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #85 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 12:33pm freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am: Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries? Good. Now keep going.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41825	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #86 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am: Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries? When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41825	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #87 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:37pm Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2019 at 10:29pm: In the meantime, Christian atrocities are no excuse for muslims to commit atrocities Who ever suggested they were? Stop erecting strawman arguments, please.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #88 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm: freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am: Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries? When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?
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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #89 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 2:45pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 8:28am:

Brian do you have the right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries?

When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Have you ever criticised Islam on here Brian?

That's a question. See how It's done, G?

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