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Reply #120 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 8:03am
 
thats a good link rhino...

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The mother of murdered Canberra boy Bradyn Dillon says she and her son "fell through the cracks", as ACT Government lawyers issue her a personal apology for the system that failed to protect the child.




an apology will make her feel heaps better I am sure....

at least they have admitted   WHO is really responsible for this boys death......

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Former wife details abuse
Graeme Dillon's former wife, who married him when Bradyn was a young child and after Dillon has split with the boy's mother, today told the court she witnessed Dillon's violence against his son.

She said he was chastised for minor or manufactured accusations.

"The abuse he was subjected to is not discipline," she said.

"He was not allowed to cry. He got told to suck it up."

She also detailed terrifying violence by Dillon against herself, including when he threw a knife at her which lodged in her leg, before telling her to put a bandaid on it.

She said he also repeatedly strangled her until she was unconscious.

Dillon's former wife also told the court about how Dillon would tell Bradyn that his mother was on drugs.

She said he told Bradyn, "she's not the same mummy as before".

The court heard Dillon had taken out a domestic violence order in Canberra to keep his son from his mother, but that when she tried to counter that she was stumped by the system.




HOW MANY FREAKING "RED FLAGS" DO THEY NEED...
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Reply #121 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 8:24am
 
cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 7:58am:
rhino wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 1:17am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 12:55am:
rhino wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 12:04am:
freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2019 at 11:02pm:
If they put an AVO on a stepfather to keep him away from the kids, it basically forces him and the mother to separate.
The applicant needs to be an adult, children cannot be applicants for VROs. The childrens names are generally mentioned with the applicants, i.e. in this case the mother.



The courts should listen to children..... they actually know what is best for them....  **coughs**.. which is both parents acting like adults for a change....
child protection agencies are meant to care for the welfare of at risk children, this makes it difficult if the woman is indicating there is no risk to their child by removing a VRO which may protect that child.




what makes it so hard for you to understand this rhino...

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She obtained a protection order for her and Bradyn in Victoria but dropped it after Dillon promised to return Bradyn if she did so.

He never did.



he promised to return the boy to her if she dropped it..


what would you have done??????????????????????????

no one else listened to her.......


so tell us rhino   what would you have done if you were between a rock and a hard place like she was..


she was weak I get that  but did she deserve this treatment?....


What about this???

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The court heard Dillon had taken out a domestic violence order in Canberra to keep his son from his mother, but that when she tried to counter that she was stumped by the system


She warned the authorities about Dillon and she was ignored....Authorities apologized because they were wrong, not for any other reason!!!

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Reply #122 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am
 
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.
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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #123 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:03am
 
cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 7:58am:
rhino wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 1:17am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 12:55am:
rhino wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 12:04am:
freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2019 at 11:02pm:
If they put an AVO on a stepfather to keep him away from the kids, it basically forces him and the mother to separate.
The applicant needs to be an adult, children cannot be applicants for VROs. The childrens names are generally mentioned with the applicants, i.e. in this case the mother.



The courts should listen to children..... they actually know what is best for them....  **coughs**.. which is both parents acting like adults for a change....
child protection agencies are meant to care for the welfare of at risk children, this makes it difficult if the woman is indicating there is no risk to their child by removing a VRO which may protect that child.




what makes it so hard for you to understand this rhino...

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She obtained a protection order for her and Bradyn in Victoria but dropped it after Dillon promised to return Bradyn if she did so.

He never did.



he promised to return the boy to her if she dropped it..


what would you have done??????????????????????????

no one else listened to her.......


so tell us rhino   what would you have done if you were between a rock and a hard place like she was..


she was weak I get that  but did she deserve this treatment?....


Rhino is labouring under the misapprehension that the authorities will only act if there is an AVO. That without it, there was nothing to be done.

He's quite wrong, of course. But try telling him that.
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Reply #124 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:09am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am:
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.



fd... HE HAD THE CHILD....he told her he would let her have him...

yes she believed him....tell me fd   what would you have done in her place....

if she had left it there and he still killed the boy... then what would you have said?... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

she couldnt WIN..
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Reply #125 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:11am
 
fd is worse.. he claims SHE ALLOWED HIM TO BLACKMAIL HER..



do people "allow" blackmail now?.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

news to me..
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Reply #126 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:19am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am:
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.


Perhaps she should have retained the VRO and never seen her son at all....Dillon had custody of their son and killed him while he was in his care....Removing the VRO made no difference to whom the authorities gave custody of the child or has that fact escaped you???

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Reply #127 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:25am
 
cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:09am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am:
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.



fd... HE HAD THE CHILD....he told her he would let her have him...

yes she believed him....tell me fd   what would you have done in her place....

if she had left it there and he still killed the boy... then what would you have said?... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

she couldnt WIN..


I wouldn't have removed the VRO. That was her only chance. The courts frown on people who run off with children.
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Reply #128 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:28am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:25am:
cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:09am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am:
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.



fd... HE HAD THE CHILD....he told her he would let her have him...

yes she believed him....tell me fd   what would you have done in her place....

if she had left it there and he still killed the boy... then what would you have said?... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

she couldnt WIN..


I wouldn't have removed the VRO. That was her only chance. The courts frown on people who run off with children.



Oh it was not her only chance. Don't be absurd. Agencies and departments act all the time, as \do the police, without the presence of an AVO.
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Reply #129 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:33am
 
My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.
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Reply #130 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:36am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:33am:
My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.


Are you seriously arguing that the police will only attend if there is an existent AVO?

That intervention can only take place if there is an AVO?

Are you really that ignorant or are you just unwilling to admit you're wrong?
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Reply #131 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:37am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:25am:
cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:09am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:02am:
She allowed herself to be blackmailed into removing a VRO against a man she knew to be violent.



fd... HE HAD THE CHILD....he told her he would let her have him...

yes she believed him....tell me fd   what would you have done in her place....

if she had left it there and he still killed the boy... then what would you have said?... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

she couldnt WIN..


I wouldn't have removed the VRO. That was her only chance. The courts frown on people who run off with children.


Dillon had custody of the boy....Removing the VRO made no difference to whom the authorities gave custody....By retaining the VRO she was restricted in her access to her son with no help from authorities who ignored her warnings that Dillon was violent (hence the VRO was granted) and her son was in danger (which was ignored)....Who was right the mother or the authorities who left the boy in the care of his violent father???

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Reply #132 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:39am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:33am:
My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.


She was being ignored and her son died because of it....How do you get off blaming the mother for being screwed by the system???

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Reply #133 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:46am
 
mothra wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:36am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:33am:
My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.


Are you seriously arguing that the police will only attend if there is an existent AVO?

That intervention can only take place if there is an AVO?

Are you really that ignorant or are you just unwilling to admit you're wrong?


No. I'm saying that she told the police that the children were not at risk of violence from him. The police don't have a crystal ball.

Cods, and the rest of you apparently, seem to think that because she was blackmailed into this the police should have figured it all out on their own.
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Reply #134 - Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:47am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:39am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 9:33am:
My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.


She was being ignored and her son died because of it....How do you get off blaming the mother for being screwed by the system???

Huh Huh Huh




Through pig-ignorance, it would seem.
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