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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #150 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:18pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

What do you think the authorities would think of a man taking a woman's children from her and demanding she removing a VRO or she'll never see them again?

Happens every day.

This is why i've been trying to patiently explain to you and Rhino that AVOs are not in themselves indicative of anything meaningful in the eyes of the government agencies that deal with child protection. They are far too prone to the effects of individual circumstances. In more than a few cases, they are not even advised.

Seriously, the contortions you're performing with absolutely zero knowledge of the subject just so you can blame the mother for the father killing the child are truly alarming.

You should question yourself.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #151 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:18pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

What do you think the authorities would think of a man taking a woman's children from her and demanding she removing a VRO or she'll never see them again?

No more than a woman telling a man that if he didn't agree to the settlement he would never see his kids again

then they'd probably tell em it happens all the time. Roll Eyes

It does.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #152 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:32pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

What do you think the authorities would think of a man taking a woman's children from her and demanding she removing a VRO or she'll never see them again?

No more than a woman telling a man that if he didn't agree to the settlement he would never see his kids again

then they'd probably tell em it happens all the time. Roll Eyes

So you think the authorities would have no problem at all with it?

Do the authorities somehow favour fathers who have VROs out on them?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #153 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 5:39pm I am of the opinion fd is just keeping the click count going! mothra.... we know hes thick.. but I did give him credit for not being thicker than one or two other ozpol members . how wrong can you be..
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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #154 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 5:45pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

So you think the authorities would have no problem at all with it?

pretty much. When was the last time you heard of a dad or mum being prosecuted for it?

You don't really think that with all the bad breakups that occur daily, no one else has ever thought of this apart from you, do you?

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

Do the authorities somehow favour fathers who have VROs out on them?

are you high?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #155 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:06pm A father with a VRO on his children has pretty much zero chance of winning custody. A father's chances are slim to begin with. Do you think she may have mislead authorities by removing the VRO?
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Reply #156 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:11pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:

A father with a VRO on his children has pretty much zero chance of winning custody. A father's chances are slim to begin with.

Do you think she may have mislead authorities by removing the VRO?

he already had custody fd...

and no one listened to her.... NO ONE..

the courts decide who has custody....

you dont just walk in and tell them what you want...

someone has to LISTEN TO YOU..

you would have kept the vro in place and forgone ever seeing your son again.... Roll Eyes

we get that........

even though you knew your son hated and was in fear of his father..

you have made your point.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #157 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:13pm Quote: and no one listened to her.... NO ONE.. To the "2 or 3" calls she made each week?
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Reply #158 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:23pm

Maybe you should watch this:
The Rainbow Bird and the Monster Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Bird_and_Monster_Man

I saw this around 3am on ABC or SBS (I don't remember one advert being played) and was riveted.
Story of a Man abused as a boy and how 'he' tried to get as much help as he could, but was often 'turned away'.
Eventually he killed his Abuser but was sentenced to Gaol.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #159 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 7:24pm Cods, serious question. Do you have dementia?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95255 Gender:	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #160 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 7:49pm freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm: That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. Oh?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83732 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #161 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 10:38pm Again - any 'mother' not having custody of children must be a way-out extreme case of something.....
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #162 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:10am rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 7:24pm: Cods, serious question. Do you have dementia? I am reporting you...
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #163 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:14am freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 6:13pm: Quote: and no one listened to her.... NO ONE.. To the "2 or 3" calls she made each week? so now its the phone calls that killed him.... what a long bow you draw!
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Re: Australian SHAME.
Reply #164 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:17am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 10:38pm:

Again - any 'mother' not having custody of children must be a way-out extreme case of something.....

no one has claimed she was a perfect mother...

imo that child should not have been with either parent,.,,

he deserved to be safe and secure which is what we pay our authorities to make sure happens... Cry

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