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Self help books are nonsense
Sep 9th, 2019 at 7:58pm
 
This book might be worth a read:

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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91322.Sham


Sham: How the Self-Help Movement Made America Helpless

by Steve Salerno


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Self-help: To millions of Americans it seems like a godsend. To many others it seems like a joke. But as investigative reporter Steve Salerno reveals in this groundbreaking book, it’s neither—in fact it’s much worse than a joke. Going deep inside the Self-Help and Actualization Movement (fittingly, the words form the acronym SHAM), Salerno offers the first serious exposé of this multibillion-dollar industry and the real damage it is doing—not just to its paying customers, but to all of American society.

Based on the author’s extensive reporting—and the inside look at the industry he got while working at a leading “lifestyle” publisher—SHAM shows how thinly credentialed “experts” now dispense advice on everything from mental health to relationships to diet to personal finance to business strategy. Americans spend upward of $8 billion every year on self-help programs and products. And those staggering financial costs are actually the least of our worries.

SHAM demonstrates how the self-help movement’s core philosophies have infected virtually every aspect of American life—the home, the workplace, the schools, and more. And Salerno exposes the downside of being uplifted, showing how the “empowering” message that dominates self-help today proves just as damaging as the blame-shifting rhetoric of self-help’s “Recovery” movement.

SHAM also reveals:

• How self-help gurus conduct extensive market research to reach the same customers over and over—without ever helping them

• The inside story on the most notorious gurus—from Dr. Phil to Dr. Laura, from Tony Robbins to John Gray

• How your company might be wasting money on motivational speakers, “executive coaches,” and other quick fixes that often hurt quality, productivity, and morale

• How the Recovery movement has eradicated notions of personal responsibility by labeling just about anything—from drug abuse to “sex addiction” to shoplifting—a dysfunction or disease

• How Americans blindly accept that twelve-step programs offer the only hope of treating addiction, when in fact these programs can do more harm than good

• How the self-help movement inspired the disastrous emphasis on self-esteem in our schools

• How self-help rhetoric has pushed people away from proven medical treatments by persuading them that they can cure themselves through sheer application of will

As Salerno shows, to describe self-help as a waste of time and money vastly understates its collateral damage.
And with SHAM, the self-help industry has finally been called to account for the damage it has done.


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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91322.Sham#other_reviews
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Reply #1 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:03pm
 
It helped a lot of writers get rich.
Like a lot of Artists making Poker Machine games and violent games for kids.
See Roblox for kids - it teaches violence and destruction for the 'kids'.


Evil is Rich
Love is over-populated.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:07pm
 

"Self help books are nonsense"


Every fibre of my being wants to agree with this statement.

However, a self help book once helped me with something, and it made a huge difference in my life.

I'm too embarrassed to say who wrote it though.

Self help books, like the Bible, need to be cherry picked.

Every book you read is a benefit.

You just need to learn how to be critical.
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Reply #3 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:09pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:03pm:
It helped a lot of writers get rich.
Like a lot of Artists making Poker Machine games and violent games for kids.
See Roblox for kids - it teaches violence and destruction for the 'kids'.


Evil is Rich
Love is over-populated.


Rich?

It's a $12 billion industry!
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Reply #4 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
"Self help books are nonsense"


Every fibre of my being wants to agree with this statement.

However, a self help book once helped me with something, and it made a huge difference in my life.

I'm too embarrassed to say who wrote it though.

Self help books, like the Bible, need to be cherry picked.

Every book you read is a benefit.

You just need to learn how to be critical.



I once read -

I'm OK you're OK and

How to win friends and influence people.


They might have helped me a bit.  Embarrassed
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Reply #5 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:14pm
 

Quote:
"Self help books are nonsense"


sprinty loves them
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:15pm
 
Mein Kamphf
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #7 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:16pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:14pm:
Quote:
"Self help books are nonsense"


sprinty loves them



Could Monk be cured by reading a self help book?
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Reply #8 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:17pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:15pm:
Mein Kamphf


No -  Das Kapital would be better - ask Greggy.
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Reply #9 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
"Self help books are nonsense"


Every fibre of my being wants to agree with this statement.

However, a self help book once helped me with something, and it made a huge difference in my life.

I'm too embarrassed to say who wrote it though.

Self help books, like the Bible, need to be cherry picked.

Every book you read is a benefit.

You just need to learn how to be critical.



I once read -

I'm OK you're OK and

How to win friends and influence people.


They might have helped me a bit.  Embarrassed


I know a guy who works at a music school in the UK.

https://www.waterbear.org.uk/

These three books are on the book list:

- Sane New World, Ruby Wax

- The Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle

- The Happiness Trap, Russ Harris

He gave me all three books as a gift when I was in Brighton last year, and I must admit that they're quite good.

But again, you must cherry pick and criticise.



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Reply #10 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
I know a guy who works at a music school in the UK.

https://www.waterbear.org.uk/

These three books are on the book list:

- Sane New World, Ruby Wax

- The Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle

- The Happiness Trap, Russ Harris

He gave me all three books as a gift when I was in Brighton last year, and I must admit that they're quite good.

But again, you must cherry pick and criticise.




I haven't read those books.
I'm finding that I prefer Youtube videos and if something is going to be long - 1 hour or more then
only a science video can keep me interested.

That's why I haven't posted in the book section here before.
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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
I know a guy who works at a music school in the UK.

https://www.waterbear.org.uk/

These three books are on the book list:

- Sane New World, Ruby Wax

- The Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle

- The Happiness Trap, Russ Harris

He gave me all three books as a gift when I was in Brighton last year, and I must admit that they're quite good.

But again, you must cherry pick and criticise.




I haven't read those books.



They're worth a look.

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Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:14pm:
Quote:
"Self help books are nonsense"


sprinty loves them



Could Monk be cured by reading a self help book?


monk can, but you unfortunately are beyond help
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Reply #13 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:36pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:14pm:
Quote:
"Self help books are nonsense"


sprinty loves them



Could Monk be cured by reading a self help book?


monk can, but you unfortunately are beyond help



According to the book in the OP
none of the self help books are worth a penny.
That means that you can't be helped either with
your truckloads of problems.
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Reply #14 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 9:06pm
 
Bobbi seeks self-help by reading the nonsense on the back of public toilet doors.

If there were no public toilets, Bobbi would not exist.
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Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.
 
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