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Reply #30 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 12:06am
 
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 10:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
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yes you have funny ideas about what children should be exposed too..from memory you were quite happy to have I believe she was 7 at the time your daughter exposed to what Madonna offered of herself to anyone who voted for Hillary.......its all here somewhere...


Mr Smith does not have a daughter.



thats not what he told me when I complained about madonnas behavior and how I felt for her then 16 yr old son...


rubbish. I have two boys. I've never claimed otherwise.
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Reply #31 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 1:45am
 
So - it's all about people's personal lives again, is it?

No wonder discussion breaks down ....
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Reply #32 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 1:49am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 27th, 2019 at 6:59pm:
This  is the 'Future' of Politics - while the Old Wise Men of the Ruins of Athens keep rule of the 'Past', as does those who follow them.



What about the Delphic Oracles?  Young Greta would fit right in there....

"Hear me, O Athenians - that walls of non-fossil fuels will be thy salvation....." 

"(huh?... please explain?"

"Idiots!  Delphic Oracles don't explain!  They just oracalise.... not our fault you can't work it out!!"
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Reply #33 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:37am
 
So this kid uses jet airliners to get around
Perhaps she should set an example and row a canoe across the oceans.

Does she use motor vehicles to get around?
Again....why not a bicycle? Bojack could lend her his.

Electricity? No more artificial light for you young lady.
Maybe some candles instead should you require vision in dark areas.

Just a few basic starters for her. People would.listen if she practised her own "environmentalism".  Grin

Otherwise....sharddup kid....you're full of it.




I haven't even entertained her garbage. Her handler works for none other than soros.. Best to ignore hypocrisy.
The world will destroy us before we destroy it.

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Reply #34 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 9:16am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:37am:
So this kid uses jet airliners to get around
Perhaps she should set an example and row a canoe across the oceans.

Does she use motor vehicles to get around?
Again....why not a bicycle? Bojack could lend her his.

Electricity? No more artificial light for you young lady.
Maybe some candles instead should you require vision in dark areas.

Just a few basic starters for her. People would.listen if she practised her own "environmentalism".  Grin

Otherwise....sharddup kid....you're full of it.




Have you any idea how utterly ridiculous that suggestion is? If someone wanted to lose weight, would you suggest they stop eating altogether? If so you're a moron.

Switching from a carbon based economy to renewables, cutting emissions, does not involve giving up life as we know it and going back to cave man status.
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Reply #35 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:07am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 9:16am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 6:37am:
So this kid uses jet airliners to get around
Perhaps she should set an example and row a canoe across the oceans.

Does she use motor vehicles to get around?
Again....why not a bicycle? Bojack could lend her his.

Electricity? No more artificial light for you young lady.
Maybe some candles instead should you require vision in dark areas.

Just a few basic starters for her. People would.listen if she practised her own "environmentalism".  Grin

Otherwise....sharddup kid....you're full of it.




Have you any idea how utterly ridiculous that suggestion is? If someone wanted to lose weight, would you suggest they stop eating altogether? If so you're a moron.

Switching from a carbon based economy to renewables, cutting emissions, does not involve giving up life as we know it and going back to cave man status.



the point is... HAS SHE OR HER FAMILY GIVEN UP ALL THOSE GOODIES SHE BLASTS PREVIOUS GENERATIONS FOR CREATING..???  the way they travel   by using  a huge carbon creating monster.....I would suggest not..
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Reply #36 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:52am
 
Interesting article in the abc.

Why Greta Thunberg triggers the troglodytes among us

Greta ticks all the boxes. She triggers the troglodytes among us in some wholly predictable ways.

She's a girl.

To say our culture hates girls is, of course, an overstatement. Afterall, we enjoy looking at girls and having them sing and shimmy for us.

We quite like it, say, when they swim fast enough to earn "us" a gold medal.

We especially like them consuming our products and chiming about them on social media. But we largely abhor girl culture.

Things that girls like, things that girls are interested in, are routinely devalued and considered as trivial.

If a book, a band, a film, a foodstuff has a disproportionate teen-girl following — think Twilight, think Taylor Swift, think Billie Eilish — it's rendered culturally unimportant at best and as vacuous crap at worst.

The moment girls scream and cry over something is the moment our culture has decided it's wholly unimportant.

She's not just a girl — she's a girl with Asperger's


She's not just a girl though.

We like certain 16-year-olds. Ideally, ones that look like they're on the cusp of blossoming womanhood.

The spotlight for girls in our culture shines on the ones that are a tad salacious.
This won't go unpunished though. Let's not pretend being sexual doesn't come at a cost; let's not pretend that double standards don't abound — but it's the mandate.

If we're going to pay her any attention, the least she can do is offer us something enticing to look at. To smile for us. To not be too strident. To play nice.

Greta Thunberg isn't a 16-year-old doing sexiness for us. She's not performing femininity, she's not exchanging eroticism for a platform to talk about the environment.

She's a soft-spoken girl with bare skin and pigtails. And because this packaging is so unfamiliar on the world stage — because we have no real track record of paying attention to girls who look like this — it's acceptable to ignore her.

She's not performing adult womanliness in the way we expect, so we downplay her as just a child. And we don't consider children as sources of authority, of expertise.

They're naive, and their words — their wants, their hopes — get discounted.

But she's not just a girl. She's a girl with Asperger's. And Asperger's considered a disability.
And the disability frame means she's not neurodiverse. Her differences aren't what make her different — make her amazing, rather.

She's rejected as fanatical. As a single-minded obsessive. As someone who keeps banging on about the same thing over and over again after everyone else has left the room.

This enables Greta to be brushed-off as not comprehending nuance, of not "getting" social cues. As failing to understand how the world really works.

As being not only naive, but as a bit "broken". Certainly too broken — according to haters on the internet — to be listened to about policy matters.

Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future

But she's not just a girl with Asperger's. She's a Swedish girl with Asperger's.

In lots of ways, we quite like the Swedes. We like their noir novels and their flat-pack furniture. Their ABBA, their Lykke Li. Their cosy cocoa-and-cake culture.

And we often find appeal in much of their public policy. Appeal right up until the point where we have to ponder paying for it.

Then, abruptly, Sweden is slammed as a socialist dystopia.

When a girl from Sweden tells the world all the ways that they are failing the planet, all the toil we're neglecting to do for the earth, she's dismissed as a meddler.
She's a person — and not just a person, but a mere girl — who's looking down at us, who's judging us.

If we can work out ways to disregard her — to use her age and accent and Asperger's against her — then her scowling and judgment doesn't matter.

In considering the source as less than, we can rationalise not paying proper attention. Afterall, the judgment of our inferiors matters little.

But she's not just a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish. For the kicker, she's a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish and who's asking us to do more than just separate our rubbish.

And this is what it's really about. The pigtails and soft voice takes a backseat to the true problem with Greta Thunberg: she reminds us of the litany of our collective failings.

Not just about how we don't care enough, but that we're not doing enough. That we're not outspoken enough. That we're not sacrificing.

That even if we acknowledge that there's a climate calamity, we're not forgoing anything for it.
Just as we hate vegans because they remind us that there's a dark cost — paid by animals every bit as sentient as our fawned-over puppies — to that burger, Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future.

It's equal parts predictable and reprehensible that a girl gets targeted because she's saying and doing what we're too — variously — lazy, complacent and greedy to do ourselves.

But the reasons she bristles, the reasons that a soft-spoken 16-year-old Swede has the capacity to stir such defensiveness and prompt such venom, is testimony to the fact that she's doing an awful lot right.
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Reply #37 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 11:06am
 
cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:07am:
the point is... HAS SHE OR HER FAMILY GIVEN UP ALL THOSE GOODIES SHE BLASTS PREVIOUS GENERATIONS FOR CREATING..???  the way they travel   by using  a huge carbon creating monster.....I would suggest not..



no she's not. She blasting them for their stubborn reliance on fossil fuels, despite what the science says.

One more time for the idiots, giving up our reliance on fossil fuels does not mean we have to give up on all our goodies.
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Reply #38 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 11:06am
 
Raven wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:52am:
Interesting article in the abc.

Why Greta Thunberg triggers the troglodytes among us

Greta ticks all the boxes. She triggers the troglodytes among us in some wholly predictable ways.

She's a girl.

To say our culture hates girls is, of course, an overstatement. Afterall, we enjoy looking at girls and having them sing and shimmy for us.

We quite like it, say, when they swim fast enough to earn "us" a gold medal.

We especially like them consuming our products and chiming about them on social media. But we largely abhor girl culture.

Things that girls like, things that girls are interested in, are routinely devalued and considered as trivial.

If a book, a band, a film, a foodstuff has a disproportionate teen-girl following — think Twilight, think Taylor Swift, think Billie Eilish — it's rendered culturally unimportant at best and as vacuous crap at worst.

The moment girls scream and cry over something is the moment our culture has decided it's wholly unimportant.

She's not just a girl — she's a girl with Asperger's


She's not just a girl though.

We like certain 16-year-olds. Ideally, ones that look like they're on the cusp of blossoming womanhood.

The spotlight for girls in our culture shines on the ones that are a tad salacious.
This won't go unpunished though. Let's not pretend being sexual doesn't come at a cost; let's not pretend that double standards don't abound — but it's the mandate.

If we're going to pay her any attention, the least she can do is offer us something enticing to look at. To smile for us. To not be too strident. To play nice.

Greta Thunberg isn't a 16-year-old doing sexiness for us. She's not performing femininity, she's not exchanging eroticism for a platform to talk about the environment.

She's a soft-spoken girl with bare skin and pigtails. And because this packaging is so unfamiliar on the world stage — because we have no real track record of paying attention to girls who look like this — it's acceptable to ignore her.

She's not performing adult womanliness in the way we expect, so we downplay her as just a child. And we don't consider children as sources of authority, of expertise.

They're naive, and their words — their wants, their hopes — get discounted.

But she's not just a girl. She's a girl with Asperger's. And Asperger's considered a disability.
And the disability frame means she's not neurodiverse. Her differences aren't what make her different — make her amazing, rather.

She's rejected as fanatical. As a single-minded obsessive. As someone who keeps banging on about the same thing over and over again after everyone else has left the room.

This enables Greta to be brushed-off as not comprehending nuance, of not "getting" social cues. As failing to understand how the world really works.

As being not only naive, but as a bit "broken". Certainly too broken — according to haters on the internet — to be listened to about policy matters.

Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future

But she's not just a girl with Asperger's. She's a Swedish girl with Asperger's.

In lots of ways, we quite like the Swedes. We like their noir novels and their flat-pack furniture. Their ABBA, their Lykke Li. Their cosy cocoa-and-cake culture.

And we often find appeal in much of their public policy. Appeal right up until the point where we have to ponder paying for it.

Then, abruptly, Sweden is slammed as a socialist dystopia.

When a girl from Sweden tells the world all the ways that they are failing the planet, all the toil we're neglecting to do for the earth, she's dismissed as a meddler.
She's a person — and not just a person, but a mere girl — who's looking down at us, who's judging us.

If we can work out ways to disregard her — to use her age and accent and Asperger's against her — then her scowling and judgment doesn't matter.

In considering the source as less than, we can rationalise not paying proper attention. Afterall, the judgment of our inferiors matters little.

But she's not just a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish. For the kicker, she's a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish and who's asking us to do more than just separate our rubbish.

And this is what it's really about. The pigtails and soft voice takes a backseat to the true problem with Greta Thunberg: she reminds us of the litany of our collective failings.

Not just about how we don't care enough, but that we're not doing enough. That we're not outspoken enough. That we're not sacrificing.

That even if we acknowledge that there's a climate calamity, we're not forgoing anything for it.
Just as we hate vegans because they remind us that there's a dark cost — paid by animals every bit as sentient as our fawned-over puppies — to that burger, Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future.

It's equal parts predictable and reprehensible that a girl gets targeted because she's saying and doing what we're too — variously — lazy, complacent and greedy to do ourselves.

But the reasons she bristles, the reasons that a soft-spoken 16-year-old Swede has the capacity to stir such defensiveness and prompt such venom, is testimony to the fact that she's doing an awful lot right.



sounds pretty spot on to me.
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Reply #39 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 11:37am
 
Greta is a girl who can SEE CO2.

Why should I take notice of a that. That's is irrespective of gender.

If she can't get the basics right she should not be pontificating.
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Reply #40 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 3:53pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 11:06am:
cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:07am:
the point is... HAS SHE OR HER FAMILY GIVEN UP ALL THOSE GOODIES SHE BLASTS PREVIOUS GENERATIONS FOR CREATING..???  the way they travel   by using  a huge carbon creating monster.....I would suggest not..



no she's not. She blasting them for their stubborn reliance on fossil fuels, despite what the science says.

One more time for the idiots, giving up our reliance on fossil fuels does not mean we have to give up on all our goodies.





we are giving up fossil fuel... slower than people PANICKERS want though....seriously she has said the world will die in 10 years this may not scare the bejeebers out of your kids but it does a lot of children..

you want your cake and eat it as well... thats plain to see.....but everything creates carbon.... everything...

do you think we would be in space without fossil fuel?,   can you see wind power taking over???....will it build the mighty dams and bridges we all love and use....

one day we will have used all the fossil fuel by then they will hope to have an alternative... right now I am not convinced...and wouldnt like to fly in a plane to the other side of the world   using wind power.... just yet..maybe in years to come... but right now    we are slowly and surely working towards a cleaner fuel....

we are not standing still like this child claims...

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Reply #41 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:28pm
 
So to create enough electricity as now, that is without widespread EV's, we would need a lot of solar panels.

Australia's electricity consumption is 249,600Gwatts.

The Ivanpah Concentrated Solar Plant has an output of 392Mwatts, at 28.72% efficiency.

It takes up 1420Ha.

At 100% efficiency it would take about 64,000 CSP's. At 28.72% efficiency it would take about 222,000 CSP's.

The land area required would be about 315 million Ha or or about 3.15 million square Kilometres. Australia's area is about 7.69 million square kilometres. So we would to give over 40% of land to the solar farms. And that is without any transmission losses.
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Reply #42 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:30pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 11:06am:
cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 10:07am:
the point is... HAS SHE OR HER FAMILY GIVEN UP ALL THOSE GOODIES SHE BLASTS PREVIOUS GENERATIONS FOR CREATING..???  the way they travel   by using  a huge carbon creating monster.....I would suggest not..



no she's not. She blasting them for their stubborn reliance on fossil fuels, despite what the science says.

One more time for the idiots, giving up our reliance on fossil fuels does not mean we have to give up on all our goodies.





we are giving up fossil fuel... slower than people PANICKERS want though....seriously she has said the world will die in 10 years this may not scare the bejeebers out of your kids but it does a lot of children..

you want your cake and eat it as well... thats plain to see.....but everything creates carbon.... everything...

do you think we would be in space without fossil fuel?,   can you see wind power taking over???....will it build the mighty dams and bridges we all love and use....

one day we will have used all the fossil fuel by then they will hope to have an alternative... right now I am not convinced...and wouldnt like to fly in a plane to the other side of the world   using wind power.... just yet..maybe in years to come... but right now    we are slowly and surely working towards a cleaner fuel....

we are not standing still like this child claims...




1. Greta has not said the world will end in 10 years. She's said we have 10 years to act before we irreparably alter the course of the world for a very long time. It doesn't mean it's just going to blow up you know. She's not the one who found this anyway. This is what the science is telling us. Overwhelmingly.

In fact, David Attenborough says the exact same thing. Is he allowed?

2. What Greta says is the consensus of scientists not her own personal faantansy. She is actually a very intelligent and very well sourced individual speaking on behalf of a much wider community, all saying the same thing.

3. We are not reducing our reliance on fossil fuels anywhere near fast enough, nor are we halting mass deforestation. We have known we need to do this for 30 years. We have dragged our feet and now more and more scientists are telling us we are running out of time. We have entered a mass extinction age. All scientific findings.

Stop shooting the messenger.

In fact, the only time her being a young person should be taken into account is in our consideration of our reaction to her. I'm gobsmacked at the things grown adults have allowed themselves to say about her. And that means you.

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Reply #43 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:33pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
2. What Greta says is the consensus of scientists not her own personal faantansy.



So the consensus of scientists is that CO2 can be seen? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #44 - Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:35pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:33pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
2. What Greta says is the consensus of scientists not her own personal faantansy.



So the consensus of scientists is that CO2 can be seen? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Polly want a cracker?
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