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Re: FAKE NEWS
Reply #16 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:13pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

Because his job is to look after the interests of the country and its people.

It's been two and a half years, and he hasn't even started doing that yet.

His job is to run the country - not win Twitter wars.

Trump would be better of resigning, starting his own news channel and doing daily crosses from his gold office, or prison cell. He'll get the attention he wants and someone else can run the country and do a good job.

Incorrect.

Most politicians are of the intellectual elite and are full of ideas.
Most ideas for policy change are stupid and won't work.

Someone like Donald who has done years of brutal training , recognises that most new ideas fail and the government should let the private sector do the innovating.

And in the private sector most businesses will still fail but some will achieve spectacular success.

So by being humble and restricting himself to golf, twitter and wall construction, Donald makes some space for the awesome, courageous, noble , creative entrepreneurs and venture capitalists to make the country great.

Awesome, humble, intuitive, sober , sensible non-interference in our noble markets

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Re: FAKE NEWS
Reply #17 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:15pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:12pm:

New York Times just got caught out lying again.

They wrote today or yesterday that Trump pressured Australia in a "recent" phone call.

But back in May, Australia, Joe Hockey, wrote to Bill Barr offering to help in regards to "Spy Gate"

note the mention of Downer. Wink

I see a letter offering help in investigation, not in discrediting Mueller.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #18 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:16pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

Because his job is to look after the interests of the country and its people.

It's been two and a half years, and he hasn't even started doing that yet.

His job is to run the country - not win Twitter wars.

Trump would be better off resigning, starting his own news channel and doing daily crosses from his gold office, or prison cell. He'll get the attention he wants and someone else can run the country and do a good job.

Indeed.

And let's face it, any job would be a good job in comparison to what Trump's done.

From day one he said the job was much harder than he thought, and he subsequently sat back on his fat arse and decided to do nothing.

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Reply #19 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

Because his job is to look after the interests of the country and its people.

It's been two and a half years, and he hasn't even started doing that yet.

His job is to run the country - not win Twitter wars.

Trump would be better off resigning, starting his own news channel and doing daily crosses from his gold office, or prison cell. He'll get the attention he wants and someone else can run the country and do a good job.

Indeed.

And let's face it, any job would be a good job in comparison to what Trump's done.

From day one he said the job was much harder than he thought, and he subsequently sat back on his fat arse and decided to do nothing.

Not only that but it's been about him from the second he took office.

Some of his first actions as the inaugurated President was to lie about the weather and lie about the crowd sizes. Alarm bells went off then, not because of his lies, but because it didn't hurt him.

It's only gotten worse from there to the point where he's straight-up fabricating evidence to prove he didn't misspeak in a tweet. Evidence that broke the law by putting out false information masquerading as official National Weather Service information.

He spends hours and hours each day on big-noting himself without actually doing the job he's there to do.

In some ways it's good because when he's involved you have the conflict in Iran, or the continued missile testing in North Korea or the increasing number of his extremist fanatics who kill innocent people based on the things Trump says.

This is why, after calling the whistleblower a traitor and calling for their execution they've had to go into federal protective custody. It's not for fear of Trump, but his radicalised mass shooting extremist supporters.

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Reply #20 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:13pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

Because his job is to look after the interests of the country and its people.

It's been two and a half years, and he hasn't even started doing that yet.

His job is to run the country - not win Twitter wars.

Trump would be better of resigning, starting his own news channel and doing daily crosses from his gold office, or prison cell. He'll get the attention he wants and someone else can run the country and do a good job.

Incorrect.

Most politicians are of the intellectual elite and are full of ideas.
Most ideas for policy change are stupid and won't work.

Someone like Donald who has done years of brutal training , recognises that most new ideas fail and the government should let the private sector do the innovating.

And in the private sector most businesses will still fail but some will achieve spectacular success.

So by being humble and restricting himself to golf, twitter and wall construction, Donald makes some space for the awesome, courageous, noble , creative entrepreneurs and venture capitalists to make the country great.

Awesome, humble, intuitive, sober , sensible non-interference in our noble markets

That was a good one, very funny.

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Reply #21 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:49pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:12pm:

New York Times just got caught out lying again.

They wrote today or yesterday that Trump pressured Australia in a "recent" phone call.

But back in May, Australia, Joe Hockey, wrote to Bill Barr offering to help in regards to "Spy Gate"

note the mention of Downer. Wink

How were they caught lying? The Australian government, while they won't release the transcript of the call, they don't deny it happened. It was even spoken about on record in Parliament.

And why is it that every image you post is of such poor quality?

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Reply #23 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:58pm

As of August 2019, the Trump administration's barrier construction has been limited to replacing sections that were in need of repair,[46] with 60 miles of replacement wall built in the Southwest since 2017.[47] 450 miles are planned to be completed by the end of 2020[48] with an estimated total cost of $18.4 billion.[49] Privately owned land adjacent to the border would have to be acquired by the U.S. government to be built upon.[45] A lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on the behalf of the Sierra Club and Southern Border Communities Coalition in February 2019, which "argues that the president is usurping Congress's appropriations power and threatening the clearly defined separation of powers inscribed in the Constitution", will return to the Ninth Circuit Appeals Court.[50][51][45]

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #24 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 2:24pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:12pm:

New York Times just got caught out lying again.

They wrote today or yesterday that Trump pressured Australia in a "recent" phone call.

But back in May, Australia, Joe Hockey, wrote to Bill Barr offering to help in regards to "Spy Gate"

note the mention of Downer. Wink

Yes, I also note the date. Ten days after Morrison's election win.

I wonder what was said when Trump called Morrison to congratulate him on his win. I do hope the transcript of that call is released.

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Reply #25 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 4:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

trump was just "paying attention".

and all publicity IS good publicity.

answer me this.

if there were 2 threads.

one entitled "trump and the pope get swedish massage together"
the other entitled " new data on climate change".

which one is going to spread.
which one will be shared
which one would YOU read first (even knowing its fake news).

and when you "react" to trump, he is "leading " you and you are putting him on a pedestal

The Establishment would have you believe that the job of leaders is not to sell scandals, dear, it's to shape and implement policy in the national good.

Climate change, health care, job losses due to automatisation, the geopolitical rise of China - these are issues the elites say can't be ignored.

Instead, Mr Trump spends an average of 4 hours a day in the Oval Office and uses the rest of his time campaigning and Tweeting and watching TV.

Worse, they say, when Mr Trump does do his job and talks to foreign leaders, he just acts in his own interest, fishing for fake info on his political opponents and undermining the work of his own agencies.

What a load of crap, eh?

Fat Steve and Janeen want a leader who sticks to his own interests. Forget us, they say, you focus on yourself. They understand the Paretto Principle: to he who has more, more shall be given.

Now Mr Trump, of course, has been given the VIP treatment his whole life. He used to do his paper round in a chauffeured limousine. If anyone deserves more, it's Mr Trump.

Why won't the Establishment just give him the respect he craves? If Fat Steve and Janeen can do it, why not the elites?

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Reply #26 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 4:09pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 8:29am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 8:21am:

All got busted - AGAIN.

Can we clear something up, are you claiming that what is crossed out was removed from the version of the summary that those outlets mentioned released but those outlets and replaced with the "(...)" ?

Still waiting on an answer Serial.

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Reply #27 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 4:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:15pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:12pm:

New York Times just got caught out lying again.

They wrote today or yesterday that Trump pressured Australia in a "recent" phone call.

But back in May, Australia, Joe Hockey, wrote to Bill Barr offering to help in regards to "Spy Gate"

note the mention of Downer. Wink

I see a letter offering help in investigation, not in discrediting Mueller.

important distinctions like that are ignored by imbeciles like CerealAss

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Reply #28 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 4:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:13pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:02am:

Fake news my friend is the new norm
get used to it

Trump because he was paying attention realised that this was the case in about 2015
Trump because he was paying attention saw that most people were now getting their news from Google and Facebook

The major TV networks and traditional media outlets are in a death spiral
They are going broke
As they go broke they employ less journalists and do less legitimate research.

And here is the real kicker
As they clamber for eyeballs they resort to clickbait and sensationalism and so by the very definition of what they are trying to achieve they are becoming more and more unreliable extreme and full of gossip and crap

The only thing a politician can now rely on is his own core energy
People can't tell fact from fiction
So they are just going to read body language and non-verbal cues
Trump is an absolute master of body language and non-verbal cues and he will demolish any opponent in the current media climate

You should study that for about 5 years

Mr Trump learned about fake news from his media liaison man, John Barron.

John Barron was also Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's knowledge of fake news comes from creating it himself. John Barron would call the gossip columnists and say things like Prince Charles was considering an apartment in Trump Tower. John Barron said Mr Trump got along swimmingly with Princess Di. He said Mr Trump had dated her a number of times.

You see? Fake news. In reality, Mr Trump was selling apartments to Saudi sheiks and Russian oligarchs, those considered the nouveau rich. Today, of course, those connections have formed the basis of Mr Trump's foreign policy.

The old money on the East Coast hated greedy little conmen like John Barron, not to mention the corrupt foreign thugs he did business with. The media lapped it up because it sold newspapers and magazines. The gossip columnists didn't mind putting a few fake news tidbits out there. "A source says..." and "an anonymous reporter told..." were the tabloid equivalent of Mr Trump's usual source, "everybody". As in, "I mean, everybody's saying it."

That person, of course, is Mr Trump.

Mr Trump is one of the fake news pioneers. He might have failed with investments, but he's never been stuck for a lie. Mr Trump is of the school of all publicity is good publicity. He failed to see why the old money would be revolted at this. Fuelling stories about his affairs, his marriage breakups, his dirty laundry, Mr Trump could never understand why the Establishment didn't respect him.

All Mr Trump has ever wanted is a positive article in the Post or the Times. All Mr Trump has ever wanted is to be believed.

Do you think it's time he changed tactics?

good grief NOOOOOO!!!!!.

when the mainstream media is dominated by sensationalism and click baiting, why would he change tactics when those very tactics are the new weaponry.

Because his job is to look after the interests of the country and its people.

It's been two and a half years, and he hasn't even started doing that yet.

His job is to run the country - not win Twitter wars.

Trump would be better of resigning, starting his own news channel and doing daily crosses from his gold office, or prison cell. He'll get the attention he wants and someone else can run the country and do a good job.

Incorrect.

Most politicians are of the intellectual elite and are full of ideas.
Most ideas for policy change are stupid and won't work.

Someone like Donald who has done years of brutal training , recognises that most new ideas fail and the government should let the private sector do the innovating.

And in the private sector most businesses will still fail but some will achieve spectacular success.

So by being humble and restricting himself to golf, twitter and wall construction, Donald makes some space for the awesome, courageous, noble , creative entrepreneurs and venture capitalists to make the country great.

Awesome, humble, intuitive, sober , sensible non-interference in our noble markets

Apart from trade wars on multiple fronts and the biggest government deficit in US history, sure.

Sensible non-interference in our noble markets.

BUILD THE WALL.

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Re: FAKE NEWS
Reply #29 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 9:54pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 2:24pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2019 at 1:12pm:

New York Times just got caught out lying again.

They wrote today or yesterday that Trump pressured Australia in a "recent" phone call.

But back in May, Australia, Joe Hockey, wrote to Bill Barr offering to help in regards to "Spy Gate"

note the mention of Downer. Wink

Yes, I also note the date. Ten days after Morrison's election win.

I wonder what was said when Trump called Morrison to congratulate him on his win. I do hope the transcript of that call is released.

it is unprecedented that a US President would ever release transcripts of his telephone conversations with another Countries Leader.

Trump is the only one in history that has released this.

But now everyone is demanding he releases more?

Trump has been 100% transparent - not one other politician has been or ever been.

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