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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #15 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:47pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:12pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Can I climb Stonehenge?
Maybe tow a stone away for my personal use on my newly gained farm nearby?

Uluru is like an Arkenstone.
The Heart of this Land and 'we' all just left a scar upon it.
Can I climb all over Anzac shrines and monuments?
Can I walk all over Parliment House, climb over the old one?
What would happen if I bulldozed Anita Cobby's Memorial park?
How about I drop landfill into that Bondi hole by the sea?

All things sacred.
Why can't you respect theirs?
What did they do to you?
Did they hold out on you (this country) while they waited for you to crawl out of your European hole where no sunlight shines to tan up your skin?

Uluru is more than just a rock.
It belongs to a Global Mythology.

All of those things you mentioned are man made for a reason.
Abbos didn't make Ayers Rock. They didn't make anything.

A new LAW has passed ..

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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #16 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:12pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Can I climb Stonehenge?
Maybe tow a stone away for my personal use on my newly gained farm nearby?

Uluru is like an Arkenstone.
The Heart of this Land and 'we' all just left a scar upon it.
Can I climb all over Anzac shrines and monuments?
Can I walk all over Parliment House, climb over the old one?
What would happen if I bulldozed Anita Cobby's Memorial park?
How about I drop landfill into that Bondi hole by the sea?

All things sacred.
Why can't you respect theirs?
What did they do to you?
Did they hold out on you (this country) while they waited for you to crawl out of your European hole where no sunlight shines to tan up your skin?

Uluru is more than just a rock.
It belongs to a Global Mythology.

How come only Abbos can climb it?

That's racist.

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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #17 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Don't they do climbing tours of the harbour bridge?

I notice you didn't list any hills or mountains there Brian. Why is that?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #18 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:44pm No they didnt make it but then the best things in life are made by nature
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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #19 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:53pm

freediver wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Don't they do climbing tours of the harbour bridge?

I notice you didn't list any hills or mountains there Brian. Why is that?

I noticed he didnt list the roof of his house either..

and yes I do believe I read somewhere where you can climb the Syd Harbour Bridge....if you pay... Wink

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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #20 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:57pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Sydney Cathedral is man made
SHB is man made
MCG is man made

Who made Ayres Rock?

Immaterial. They are places where climbing, unsupervised, is prohibited, Gordon. When strangers are allowed to wander off the street and climb those places, get back to us. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #21 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:58pm

freediver wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Don't they do climbing tours of the harbour bridge?

I notice you didn't list any hills or mountains there Brian. Why is that?

You answer my questions, Freediver and I might answer yours. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #22 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 10:03pm

cods wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:53pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Don't they do climbing tours of the harbour bridge?

I notice you didn't list any hills or mountains there Brian. Why is that?

I noticed he didnt list the roof of his house either..

My house is not public land, Cods. Roll Eyes

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and yes I do believe I read somewhere where you can climb the Syd Harbour Bridge....if you pay... Wink

Under supervision, Cods, under supervision. Strangers are not allowed to climb Sydney Harbour Bridge or any other place I mentioned. Funny that, 'cause that is what some fools are demanding they being allowed to do on Uluru.

I am unsure why people who will more than likely never, ever climb Uluru are so upset by the idea that the Traditional Owners have decided to stop people climbing it. Pauline Hanson changer her mind after climbing part way and decided that climbing it was dangerous. Why aren't they willing to accept her word? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #23 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 10:43pm Ayers rock is not the biggest rock in Australia, it is not unique. Now you can look at it through a chain link fence, ridiculous. I think this is only going to deter tourism, they have made a big mistake. I reckon "the traditional custodians" are being pushed into doing this by white politically correct advisors .
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47393 Gender:	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #24 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 11:14pm Agnes wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:44pm: No they didnt make it but then the best things in life are made by nature Yes. Nothing Man-Made has yet to rival the beauty of nature itself.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47393 Gender:	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #25 - Oct 25^th, 2019 at 11:17pm Uluru is actually the head of the snake of a 26km long solidified sediment of an ancient river that bent upwards at the end. The Olgas are the same, but broken like tributaries - Hydra
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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #26 - Oct 26^th, 2019 at 1:11am

So now national icons that are sacred to all real Australians are now the exclusive property of those who were never Australians before 'Invasion Day'... the day that eventually brought them roads, cars, hospitals, the dole, longer life, far lower infant mortality rate, better healthcare, support for those afflicted by the violence of the strongest ape, sewerage, fishing rods and boats, guns to shoot kangaroos..... not to mention urbanising them so as to aid in the recovery of the native animals they claim to have been 'husbanding' for thousands of years.... more farken goannas now then when Blackey ran the show.... nobody farken burns off swathes of bush to toast snakes and goannas and such for the supper table... now we've got Farken WAR burning off the bush to attack Whartey like that dopey Aboriginal chick in Melbadishu said while she was feasting off Whartey's table.......

Oh... and BTW.. "Invasion Day" gave them the opportunity to even claim Ayers Rock as some 'secred site, mete'.... wihout 'Invasion day' it would be open slather for anyone who could get past the spears of the local itinerants.... not that anyone with sense would want to wander out there anyway...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83756 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #27 - Oct 26^th, 2019 at 1:12am Jasin wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 11:17pm: Uluru is actually the head of the snake of a 26km long solidified sediment of an ancient river that bent upwards at the end. The Olgas are the same, but broken like tributaries - Hydra Ri-i-i-i-ght - we hear you, bro.... Can you prove it?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83756 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: RIP Ayres Rock Reply #28 - Oct 26^th, 2019 at 1:12am Jasin wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 11:14pm: Agnes wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:44pm: No they didnt make it but then the best things in life are made by nature Yes. Nothing Man-Made has yet to rival the beauty of nature itself. ... and enjoying Nature is the right of all .....
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Re: RIP Ayres Rock
Reply #29 - Oct 26^th, 2019 at 1:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 10:03pm:

cods wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:53pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 25^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Can a stranger climb the steeple on the Sydney Cathedral, Gordon?

Can a stranger climb the arch on Sydney Harbour Bridge?

Can a stranger climb onto the roof of the MCG?

There are many places where strangers, unsupervised are not allowed to go. One of them happens to be Uluru now. Indigenous people are the traditional custodians of the Rock. They decide who climbs and who doesn't. Otherwise, why were they granted land rights? Cool

Don't they do climbing tours of the harbour bridge?

I notice you didn't list any hills or mountains there Brian. Why is that?

I noticed he didnt list the roof of his house either..

My house is not public land, Cods. Roll Eyes

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and yes I do believe I read somewhere where you can climb the Syd Harbour Bridge....if you pay... Wink

Under supervision, Cods, under supervision. Strangers are not allowed to climb Sydney Harbour Bridge or any other place I mentioned. Funny that, 'cause that is what some fools are demanding they being allowed to do on Uluru.

I am unsure why people who will more than likely never, ever climb Uluru are so upset by the idea that the Traditional Owners have decided to stop people climbing it. Pauline Hanson changer her mind after climbing part way and decided that climbing it was dangerous. Why aren't they willing to accept her word? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

SO ........................ people can now climb Ayers Rock under supervision? Who'd have thunk it, given the current hand-over of a national icon to a group who mostly have no ties to the area and the ghetto fence around it?

Roll Eyes

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