For those that have smarts but not a good understanding of the science.

That fact that we will be saved only and only if we establish a carbon derivatives market paying for the free air we breathe above our country on the stock market.

And the fact that we can keep on sending CO2 into the atmosphere while doing so, must tell you something.

Doomed if you don't pay on wall street.

BUT

Its OK when you pay to keep on polluting.

Wake TFU.....................

Climate change is real even sceptics acknowledge this FACT...!

Climate change has been happening since the Earth formed into a planet and will continue until the Earth gets swallowed up by our sun when it becomes a red giant (Kal Al and Kryptonite..... ).

What the sceptics disagree on is that human emissions are solely responsible for the current warming.

The climate moves in cycles as history shows, we have cool periods and warm periods nothing to do with the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Yes CO2 up to a certain point keeps us warm, keeps the Earth up around 14°C, past that point of saturation the effective warming of CO2 becomes logarithmic and just about negligible.

The writing should be on the wall for anyone with half a brain or even some smarts.

If we are going to reach that magical 3°C increase in global mean temperature that those computer models predicted back in 1990 then we should be a certain plateau by now.

Of course today after 29 years since 1990 we haven't reached this magical certain plateau that the computer models predicted and so the "HIATUS" raises its ugly head.

And we all know by now that if your predictions (computer model predictions) don't match your observations what is happening in nature (empirical data).

Then your predictions are WRONG........!!!!

lee wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2019 at 12:03pm:


"Probably won't occur" - is this the same thing that everyone - skeptics included - insist always happens?

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2019 at 9:45am:


And they're all on the payroll & jockeying for more money.

And obviously you didn't watch any of the vidoes that showed scientists & climatology scientists that refute the claims of your "worlds" scientists.

And no that's where you're wrong ... it's leftwing loonies that have made it .... no demanded it be political.

Hence your Inter "Governmental" Panel on Climate Change.

Looks like the word governmental escaped your attention also. 

lee wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2019 at 12:34pm:


I still have no idea what you are rambling about Lee.

An idiot's guide to risk management: let's do nothing at all until we all agree beyond certainty that continuing to do nothing is a really stupid idea.

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2019 at 12:22pm:



Not at all petal.

So if all things don't remain equal we will get to 120% of atmosphere?

We know the climate models (long they be praised) don't do clouds well. They parametrize them. Climate models vary many things. If they vary many thing then "All else" doesn't remain equal.

The climate change prophet himself......