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Reply #90 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:27pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:13pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 12:58pm:

The neighbour may have seen them on his/her way to work and just assumed, at that time of day, they were going somewhere with mother or whatever, who was on the way out from the house... ...

Yep, quite possible.

Although, I'm not sure how many people in her street would have jobs.

On his/her way to their dealer, maybe.

Anyway, the soft toys - what's that all about?

You keep asking ... why?

Are you shy a teddy bear you need?

I'm genuinely curious about it.

Why are people leaving soft toys on their fence?

You haven't seen that response before?

You haven't seen roadside memorials to crash victims?

Is your life that cloistered?

Yes, I have.

I'm asking why people do it.

So far, nobody has an answer.

I have my theory, but I'm curious what other people think.

Do they think the kids see the toys from heaven, or something like that?

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Reply #92 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

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Reply #93 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:17pm

It gets worse....a bloke that reckons he's the biological father of the youngest girl is having his 2 bobs worth ...

but won't be identified & come forward because he's got outstanding arrest warrants.

There's a good reason he wasn't in her life. Another lowlife.

These bastards shouldn't be allowed to breed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7724911/Logan-hot-car-death-Kerri-Ann-C...

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Reply #94 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

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Reply #95 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

[quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1574543118/92#92 date=1574741681]Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.[/quote]

do you know of anything that does?.. Angry

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Reply #96 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

I've noticed that too. The flowers will die but do the bereaved take home the soft toys and keep them as "remembrance" - or something?

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Re: 2 more toddlers dead
Reply #97 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:20pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

It gets worse....a bloke that reckons he's the biological father of the youngest girl is having his 2 bobs worth ...

but won't be identified & come forward because he's got outstanding arrest warrants.

There's a good reason he wasn't in her life. Another lowlife.

These bastards shouldn't be allowed to breed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7724911/Logan-hot-car-death-Kerri-Ann-C...

I cant read that ad blocker..

I do think we should stop drug addicts from continuing to have children....no it doesnt have to be permanent but we have seen this far too often...

why do these deadbeat dads not remove their children in a case like this...????where are the grandparents????.....its a shocker it isnt as if no one knew what was going on behind closed doors.... Angry

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Reply #98 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

[quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1574543118/92#92 date=1574741681]Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.[/quote]

do you know of anything that does?.. Angry

No.

Which is exactly why these sort of things intrigue me.

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Re: 2 more toddlers dead
Reply #99 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

ChrisP wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

I've noticed that too. The flowers will die but do the bereaved take home the soft toys and keep them as "remembrance" - or something?

its no ones business... in this thread I dont understand the discussion... Angry

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Re: 2 more toddlers dead
Reply #100 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

[quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1574543118/92#92 date=1574741681]Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.[/quote]

do you know of anything that does?.. Angry

No.

Which is exactly why these sort of things intrigue me.

you turn every thread into a train crash...

this is a tragic case of babies dying.....unnecessarily in a cruel way.........its not about soft fluffy toys.

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Reply #101 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

ChrisP wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

I've noticed that too. The flowers will die but do the bereaved take home the soft toys and keep them as "remembrance" - or something?

its no ones business... in this thread I dont understand the discussion... Angry

It's just a sociological discussion, cods.

Aren't you curious about why people do certain things?

I am.

It's not necessarily a criticism - just an observation, and discussion.

To me, leaving soft toys on the fence where children have died just seems a bit strange.

But that's just me.

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Reply #102 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:28pm

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

[quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1574543118/92#92 date=1574741681]Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.[/quote]

do you know of anything that does?.. Angry

No.

Which is exactly why these sort of things intrigue me.

you turn every thread into a train crash...

this is a tragic case of babies dying.....unnecessarily in a cruel way.........its not about soft fluffy toys.

There's no train crash, cods.

It's just a discussion.

Why do you always get angry when people want to discuss things in a civilised manner?

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Reply #103 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

ChrisP wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

I've noticed that too. The flowers will die but do the bereaved take home the soft toys and keep them as "remembrance" - or something?

its no ones business... in this thread I dont understand the discussion... Angry

It's just a sociological discussion, cods.

Aren't you curious about why people do certain things?

I am.

It's not necessarily a criticism - just an observation, and discussion.

To me, leaving soft toys on the fence where children have died just seems a bit strange.

But that's just me.

thankfully.. most people mind their own business with how people deal with tragic news.....

then one or two like yourself want to turn it into a mountain...

a lot of people exchange gifts at Xmas time....do they know why?? I am sure plenty dont its called tradition...

what people do is mostly because they want too because its better than doing NOTHING>..

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Reply #104 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:35pm

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

ChrisP wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Actually now I think about it a friend of mine died last year and there were a whole bunch of stuffed animals in her coffin with her. I was given one when I entered to put there but I didn't want to because I didn't understand it. It seems to be a thing but I never noticed it before a few years ago.

I actually thought it was a kiwi thing because her family were all New zealanders that came over for the funeral.

She was an old lady so it's not just children

Spot

From the research I've done, it's become a hell of a lot more popular since the death of Princess Diana.

Remember all those tributes?

And, it's certainly increased since social media has taken off.

People (some, not all) like to be a part of the big news stories and that's how they can participate.

A strange phenomenon - certainly not something I would consider doing, but good luck to those who do if it makes them feel good.

Does absolutely nothing for the people who are dead though.

I've noticed that too. The flowers will die but do the bereaved take home the soft toys and keep them as "remembrance" - or something?

its no ones business... in this thread I dont understand the discussion... Angry

Since the current trend is for people to put flowers and toys at the site where something terrible has occurred, presumably as a sign of respect or sympathy or something, then what happens once the news has died down? Do those who left flowers or a toy feel better? Do those who lost a loved one feel grateful that they got so many flowers and toys? Are the dead looking down saying "look how many flowers and toys I/we got?"
It's a very sad occasion and I would imagine that those affected do NOT want TV News or the flowers and teddies.

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