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Reply #225 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:30am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

lee wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:22am:

Are you saying that climate can change for no reason?

No. You?

But answer the question - "what caused the previous warm periods"?

Why do you never answer that?

Because I'm not your tutor.
If you want to know, why don't you look it up yourself and let us know.
Google it instead of demanding other people answer your questions

hypocrite

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #226 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:34am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

lee wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:58am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

Because I'm not your tutor.
If you want to know, why don't you look it up yourself and let us know.
Google it instead of demanding other people answer your questions

You should just have said "I don't know". Grin

Because no-one "knows". All they can do is speculate. Wink

It happened 1000 years ago. It's even quite likely that it was a European event and not global.

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The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) also known as the Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region lasting from c. 950 to c. 1250.[1] It was likely[2] related to warming elsewhere[3][4][5] while some other regions were colder, such as the tropical Pacific. Average global mean temperatures have been calculated to be similar to early-mid-20th-century warming. Possible causes of the Medieval Warm Period include increased solar activity, decreased volcanic activity, and changes to ocean circulation.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Now if the current warming isn't being caused by CO₂, please tell us what is causing the warming?

You're not talking about CO2 ..... you're whole spiel is about man made C02

CO2 is an essential gas for life ..... not merely a GHG that is harmful to the planet.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #227 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:12am

Gnads wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:34am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

lee wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:58am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

Because I'm not your tutor.
If you want to know, why don't you look it up yourself and let us know.
Google it instead of demanding other people answer your questions

You should just have said "I don't know". Grin

Because no-one "knows". All they can do is speculate. Wink

It happened 1000 years ago. It's even quite likely that it was a European event and not global.

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The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) also known as the Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region lasting from c. 950 to c. 1250.[1] It was likely[2] related to warming elsewhere[3][4][5] while some other regions were colder, such as the tropical Pacific. Average global mean temperatures have been calculated to be similar to early-mid-20th-century warming. Possible causes of the Medieval Warm Period include increased solar activity, decreased volcanic activity, and changes to ocean circulation.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Now if the current warming isn't being caused by CO₂, please tell us what is causing the warming?

You're not talking about CO2 ..... you're whole spiel is about man made C02

CO2 is an essential gas for life ..... not merely a GHG that is harmful to the planet.

I wonder how much CO2 is being introduced by these bush fires?

I read somewhere that one volcanic eruption introduced more pollution and green house gasses than man could produce world wide in a year.

Climate change mantra is just another tool for the grubberment to use to gain even more control than they already have.
And fools go along with it.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics Reply #228 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:25am
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #229 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:52am

Robot wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

"I don't trust science, but I want you to use science to change my mind."

A bet each way........how convenient....!

OK lets reiterate some of the signature blue prints of Anthropogenic Global Warming,

In 1990 IPCC says climate computer models predict

1. A hot spot in the tropopuase (approximately 15 kilometres above and around the equator.

2. Radio sonde equipment and satellites fail to find this hot spot.

3. Alarmists say the heat went into the oceans.

4. The Argo a system of buoys measuring the ocean s temperature fail to find this missing heat, they would've detected it passing into the deep ocean.

5. Just recently the hockey stick was proven to be false in USA courts and Mann ordered to pay costs, therefore the medieval warm period and little ice did exist.

6. If the climate models were correct in 1990, then by now after 29 years we should be a certain plateau to reaching the 2.7°C warming by the end of this century.

We have failed to reach this plateau therefore the science of Anthropogenic Global Warming is faulty, and if your observations in nature don't match your theory then,

I guess that's why the debate is done and dusted now because if there was ever a debate the alarmist camp would be exposed for what it really is.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics Reply #230 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:54am Climate change is real it happens all the time in cycles, Warming by the end of this century IPCC computer models projected warming……… +2.78° C / Century Observations the last 25 years………………………….. +1.01° C / Century
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #231 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 8:12am

Well robot if you don't trust the science maybe this will convince you that its all a hoax,

That is to save ourselves from ourselves we have to develop a carbon derivatives market on the stock exchange so tax payers can pay for the FREE air above their country in every nation.

Those elite, the one percent love money for nothing don't they.....!

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“International carbon markets will cover billions of consumers this decade. Ask the bankers at your table whether they want Australia to clip that ticket. We’re going to help them get their share." Julia Gillard
http://www.pm.gov.au/press-office/speech-business-council-australia-dinner

World Bank
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2016-04/08/content_24371651.htm

Bank of America
http://about.bankofamerica.com/en-us/global-impact/environmental-sustainability....

European Investment Bank
http://www.eib.org/infocentre/press/releases/all/2015/2015-204-european-investme...

Australian Banks
http://www.accr.org.au/big_banks

Five Multilateral development banks pledge $170 billion over next five years
Ahead of the 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference, or COP21, five multilateral development banks (MDBs) have pledged to increase climate financing to US$170 billion over the next five years.[/b]

http://www.pv-magazine.com/archive/articles/beitrag/5-mdbs-pledge-170-billion-in...

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #232 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 8:18am

Last one the philosophy of those behind AGW.

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“It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle-class … involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, small electric appliances, home and work place air- conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable .… A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmental damaging consumption patterns.”

Maurice Strong who spearheaded the 1991 Rio Earth Summit wrote in the U.N.’s Conference on Environmental Development (UNCED) report

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"

- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"If we don't change, our species will not survive... Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse."

-Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine

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2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49477 At my desk.	Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics Reply #233 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:30am Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:12pm: freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 10:01am: I can quote Frank saying that C02 emissions have no effect on climate at all. Go on, then, quote me. You have said it many times in this thread alone. Have you forgotton your own hysterics already?
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #234 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:42am

Valkie wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:12am:

I wonder how much CO2 is being introduced by these bush fires?

I read somewhere that one volcanic eruption introduced more pollution and green house gasses than man could produce world wide in a year.

You read wrong
You remember that volcanic eruption in Iceland that grounded European flights in 2010.
Th fact that all those flights were grounded resulted in a FALL in global emissions.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-cli...

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #235 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:50am

Gnads wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:34am:

You're not talking about CO2 ..... you're whole spiel is about man made C02

CO2 is an essential gas for life ..... not merely a GHG that is harmful to the planet.

Gnads you are showing your complete ignorance of the carbon cycle.
Human emissions are ADDITIONAL to that in the carbon cycle and thy accumulate
Please do some homework

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Reply #236 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:14am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:50am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:34am:

You're not talking about CO2 ..... you're whole spiel is about man made C02

CO2 is an essential gas for life ..... not merely a GHG that is harmful to the planet.

Gnads you are showing your complete ignorance of the carbon cycle.
Human emissions are ADDITIONAL to that in the carbon cycle and thy accumulate
Please do some homework

A general term yes?

I thought we were discussing CO2.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #237 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:14am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:42am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:12am:

I wonder how much CO2 is being introduced by these bush fires?

I read somewhere that one volcanic eruption introduced more pollution and green house gasses than man could produce world wide in a year.

You read wrong
You remember that volcanic eruption in Iceland that grounded European flights in 2010.
Th fact that all those flights were grounded resulted in a FALL in global emissions.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-cli...

U talking sh@t AGAIN...............!?!?!

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #238 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:15am

Ajax wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:42am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:12am:

I wonder how much CO2 is being introduced by these bush fires?

I read somewhere that one volcanic eruption introduced more pollution and green house gasses than man could produce world wide in a year.

You read wrong
You remember that volcanic eruption in Iceland that grounded European flights in 2010.
Th fact that all those flights were grounded resulted in a FALL in global emissions.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-cli...

U talking sh@t AGAIN...............!?!?!

Thanks for your informed and well thought out response Ajax Wink

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #239 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:23am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Ajax wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:42am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:12am:

I wonder how much CO2 is being introduced by these bush fires?

I read somewhere that one volcanic eruption introduced more pollution and green house gasses than man could produce world wide in a year.

You read wrong
You remember that volcanic eruption in Iceland that grounded European flights in 2010.
Th fact that all those flights were grounded resulted in a FALL in global emissions.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-cli...

U talking sh@t AGAIN...............!?!?!

Thanks for your informed and well thought out response Ajax Wink

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