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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18051 Gender:	Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics Reply #255 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:34pm The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:29pm: It's also interesting that you removed the quote that proved you are wrong I think you are confused petal. But that is the norm for you.
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Reply #256 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:07pm

How many under-water volcanic eruptions happen every year? Nobody knows. The ones we do knpow about are noticed accidentally:
https://www.sciencealert.com/almost-nobody-noticed-largest-underwater-volcano-er...

The Australian reported last week:

We are approaching the point where believing scientists on climate change is a much bigger deal than it was before, and bigger than investors and businesses are prepared for.
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Except that the scientific consensus is shifting towards requiring much more than Paris. In fact it looks like the scientists have been wrong, way too complacent and as a result, the emissions reductions to which everybody has signed up now look inadequate.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/tipping-point-approaches-for...

So scientists have been wrong all along - but NOW they are right. Oh yes.

No scientific project that has been wrong so consistently about its hysteric projections and pronouncements would possibly retain its credibility but for the huge political and psychological investment in apocalypse-mongering.

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Reply #257 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:43pm

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:29pm:

It's also interesting that you removed the quote that proved you are wrong

I think you are confused petal. But that is the norm for you. Grin

I guess the lesson that you have learnt is that if you mindlessly contradict every post that I make you are sometimes going to actually end up supporting the original argument i was making

Grin

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Reply #258 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:46pm

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:07pm:

The Australian reported last week:

We are approaching the point where believing scientists on climate change is a much bigger deal than it was before, and bigger than investors and businesses are prepared for.
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Except that the scientific consensus is shifting towards requiring much more than Paris. In fact it looks like the scientists have been wrong, way too complacent and as a result, the emissions reductions to which everybody has signed up now look inadequate.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/tipping-point-approaches-for...

So scientists have been wrong all along - but NOW they are right. Oh yes.

No scientific project that has been wrong so consistently about its hysteric projections and pronouncements would possibly retain its credibility but for the huge political and psychological investment in apocalypse-mongering.

Only The Australian could find a way to try and discredit scientists by claiming they have been too conservative about the effects of climate change Grin

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Reply #259 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:50pm

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 10:01am:

I can quote Frank saying that C02 emissions have no effect on climate at all.

Go on, then, quote me.

You have said it many times in this thread alone. Have you forgotton your own hysterics already?

Frank? Have you forgotten? Or are you just pretending to be an idiot?

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Reply #260 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:51pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:43pm:

I guess the lesson that you have learnt is that if you mindlessly contradict every post that I make you are sometimes going to actually end up supporting the original argument i was making

Grin

I guess the lesson you have learned from this is that you did not learn from this.

"It's also interesting that you removed the quote that proved you are wrong " Grin

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Reply #262 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:01pm

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:51pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:43pm:

I guess the lesson that you have learnt is that if you mindlessly contradict every post that I make you are sometimes going to actually end up supporting the original argument i was making

Grin

I guess the lesson you have learned from this is that you did not learn from this.

"It's also interesting that you removed the quote that proved you are wrong " Grin

I'll add it back in for you Wink

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 1:30pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 1:11pm:

Which would make it even less likely that the volcano's emissions exceeded human emissions

And? Was the one volcano erupting supposed to cut global emissions? You usually claim that volcanic emissions caused the LIA. Wink

But the causality of grounded planes causing a drop when China's fugitive emissions were not counted is laughable. There was more likely an increase in global emissions if China's fugitive emissions had been counted.

Oh dear lee, I think you are a bit confused

All it takes for a reduction in emissions is for the volcano's emissions to be less than what the grounded planes would have been.

China's emissions are irrelevant (unless of course you think they only emitted for the 8 days that the planes were grounded)
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Reply #263 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:05pm

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 10:01am:

I can quote Frank saying that C02 emissions have no effect on climate at all.

Go on, then, quote me.

You have said it many times in this thread alone. Have you forgotton your own hysterics already?

Frank? Have you forgotten? Or are you just pretending to be an idiot?

You said you could quote me. Then you don't quote me and say I should remember what you are attributing to me. Then you call it hysterics when i don't accept your attribution without reference.

And not accepting your bluster makes me a hysteric idiot in your reckoning.

You want to knock Bwian off his pedestal of Supreme Yeah-but-no-but Bozo? Was there a competition you have entered but I am not aware of?

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Reply #264 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:12pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:01pm:

All it takes for a reduction in emissions is for the volcano's emissions to be less than what the grounded planes would have been.

And the piece I quoted said that it was arguable that they did. So no proof of anything then. Wink

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Arguably, still less than the amount that would’ve been emitted by the grounded planes.

You did understand didn't you?

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Reply #265 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:46pm

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:12pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:01pm:

All it takes for a reduction in emissions is for the volcano's emissions to be less than what the grounded planes would have been.

And the piece I quoted said that it was arguable that they did. So no proof of anything then. Wink

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Arguably, still less than the amount that would’ve been emitted by the grounded planes.

You did understand didn't you?

You seem to have forgotten your claim about china. I wonder why that is? Grin

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

Only The Australian could find a way to try and discredit scientists by claiming they have been too conservative about the effects of climate change

Poor old Barney. just wants to keep shooting the messenger. Grin

Wrong again lee Grin

If you had read my post properly you would realise that I wasn't shooting the messenger

I guess you haven't learned your lesson about mindlessly contradicting every post I make. Wink

Anyway I'm logging off now so I'll leave it to you to have the last word (as you always have to do) Grin

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Reply #266 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:05pm

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2019 at 10:01am:

I can quote Frank saying that C02 emissions have no effect on climate at all.

Go on, then, quote me.

You have said it many times in this thread alone. Have you forgotton your own hysterics already?

Frank? Have you forgotten? Or are you just pretending to be an idiot?

You said you could quote me. Then you don't quote me and say I should remember what you are attributing to me. Then you call it hysterics when i don't accept your attribution without reference.

And not accepting your bluster makes me a hysteric idiot in your reckoning.

You want to knock Bwian off his pedestal of Supreme Yeah-but-no-but Bozo? Was there a competition you have entered but I am not aware of?

I've quoted you plenty of times already in this very thread. You even posted it in this thread.

I was just waiting to see if you are prepared to deny it. Do our C02 emissions effect the climate Frank?

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Reply #267 - Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

You seem to have forgotten your claim about china. I wonder why that is?

Nope. And you haven't shown it to be wrong. Wink

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

If you had read my post properly you would realise that I wasn't shooting the messenger

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

Only The Australian could find a way to try and discredit scientists by claiming they have been too conservative about the effects of climate change

only the Australian IS the messenger petal. Grin

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

Anyway I'm logging off now so I'll leave it to you to have the last word (as you always have to do)

I have to because you always slant everything, so that i have to correct it. Wink

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Reply #268 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 6:19am

The cult of contrarianism is killing the planet all the while Australian bushfires are burning all along the east coast as cliamte scientist forecasted would be the scenario for Australia...and to get worse....but for the contrarian...it is happening...climate change is all a myth....a conspiracy...obviously they live in a separate reality.

Much like ScuMo who says the Australian military doesn't have fire fighting equipment or crews....which is does...but to bring out the military into fire fighting acknowledges there is a serious problem happening, and he doesn't want that recognised...ignore and say nothing of the fires....gotta keep the coal dream alive.

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Reply #269 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 6:46am

Pedro Curevo wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 6:19am:

The cult of contrarianism is killing the planet all the while Australian bushfires are burning all along the east coast as cliamte scientist forecasted would be the scenario for Australia...and to get worse....but for the contrarian...it is happening...climate change is all a myth....a conspiracy...obviously they live in a separate reality.

Much like ScuMo who says the Australian military doesn't have fire fighting equipment or crews....which is does...but to bring out the military into fire fighting acknowledges there is a serious problem happening, and he doesn't want that recognised...ignore and say nothing of the fires....gotta keep the coal dream alive.

You aren't the majority ..... & more likely it's that you & the cult of Climate Change are the contrarians.

What has using or not using the military to fight fires got to do with the coal industry?

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