tickleandrose wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 1:27pm:


If coal is so finite & besides our existing coal mines & the few new ones planned ......

how come the CSG Fracking Industry can find all this 1,000s of hectares of coal seams underground to frack all over every state in this country? .....

and when the coal seams are fracked out they have like in the USA all these shale seams mapped out to frack for gas????

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2019 at 7:05pm:



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You have not been asking the same question. FD. And you still haven't  quoted me to substantiate your first, 'totalitarian' assertion of  'no effect'.
To your second, different question: no direct causality only minimal indirect effect (human co2 us a very small percentage of the total atmospheric co2 economy). It most certainly is not the driver of any global  climate variations. There is no 'climate crisis'.  Deforestation and predatory land use are more significant human effects on local climate variations. Once more, all together:

Fossil fuel emissions as the climate ‘control knob’ is a simple and seductive idea. However this is a misleading oversimplification, since climate can shift naturally in unexpected ways. Apart from uncertainties in future emissions, we are still facing a factor of 3 or more uncertainty in the sensitivity of the Earth’s temperature to increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We have no idea how natural climate variability (solar, volcanoes, ocean circulations) will play out in the 21st century, and whether or not natural variability will dominate over manmade warming
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Climate change – both manmade and natural – is a chronic problem that will require centuries of management.

The extreme rhetoric of the Extinction Rebellion and other activists is making political agreement on climate change policies more difficult.  Exaggerating the dangers beyond credibility makes it difficult to take climate change seriously. The monomaniacal focus on elimination of fossil fuel emissions distracts our attention from the primary causes of many of our problems and effective solutions.

Common sense strategies to reduce vulnerability to extreme weather events, improve environmental quality, develop better energy technologies, improve agricultural and land use practices, and better manage water resources can pave the way for a more prosperous and secure future. Each of these solutions is ‘no regrets’ – supporting climate change mitigation while improving human well being. These strategies avoid the political gridlock surrounding the current policies and avoid costly policies that will have minimal near-term impacts on the climate. And finally, these strategies don’t require agreement about the risks of uncontrolled greenhouse gas emissions.

We don’t know how the climate of the 21st century will evolve, and we will undoubtedly be surprised. Given this uncertainty, precise emissions targets and deadlines are scientifically meaningless. We can avoid much of the political gridlock by implementing common sense, no-regrets strategies that improve energy technologies, lift people out of poverty and make them more resilient to extreme weather events.
https://judithcurry.com/2019/12/02/madrid/8


The 'climate crisis' is hysterics.

The graph obviously doesn't take into consideration all other factors that make up the climate so it is simplistic and deceptive,

Robot wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 6:31pm:



Have they? What does their model of imbalance say?

Frank wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 9:32am:


So that's a no, but really a yes?

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 8:21pm:


"Really small numbers all look the same to me."