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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #300 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 11:54am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 1:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2019 at 9:32am:
freediver wrote on Dec 8th, 2019 at 7:05pm:
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I can quote Frank saying that C02 emissions have no effect on climate at all.



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Do our C02 emissions effect the climate Frank?


You have not been asking the same question. FD. And you still haven't  quoted me to substantiate your first, 'totalitarian' assertion of  'no effect'.
To your second, different question: no direct causality only minimal indirect effect (human co2 us a very small percentage of the total atmospheric co2 economy). It most certainly is not the driver of any global  climate variations. There is no 'climate crisis'.  Deforestation and predatory land use are more significant human effects on local climate variations. Once more, all together:

Fossil fuel emissions as the climate ‘control knob’ is a simple and seductive idea. However this is a misleading oversimplification, since climate can shift naturally in unexpected ways. Apart from uncertainties in future emissions, we are still facing a factor of 3 or more uncertainty in the sensitivity of the Earth’s temperature to increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We have no idea how natural climate variability (solar, volcanoes, ocean circulations) will play out in the 21st century, and whether or not natural variability will dominate over manmade warming
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Climate change – both manmade and natural – is a chronic problem that will require centuries of management.

The extreme rhetoric of the Extinction Rebellion and other activists is making political agreement on climate change policies more difficult.  Exaggerating the dangers beyond credibility makes it difficult to take climate change seriously. The monomaniacal focus on elimination of fossil fuel emissions distracts our attention from the primary causes of many of our problems and effective solutions.

Common sense strategies to reduce vulnerability to extreme weather events, improve environmental quality, develop better energy technologies, improve agricultural and land use practices, and better manage water resources can pave the way for a more prosperous and secure future. Each of these solutions is ‘no regrets’ – supporting climate change mitigation while improving human well being. These strategies avoid the political gridlock surrounding the current policies and avoid costly policies that will have minimal near-term impacts on the climate. And finally, these strategies don’t require agreement about the risks of uncontrolled greenhouse gas emissions.

We don’t know how the climate of the 21st century will evolve, and we will undoubtedly be surprised. Given this uncertainty, precise emissions targets and deadlines are scientifically meaningless. We can avoid much of the political gridlock by implementing common sense, no-regrets strategies that improve energy technologies, lift people out of poverty and make them more resilient to extreme weather events.
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The 'climate crisis' is hysterics.


So that's a no, but really a yes?

You piss into Sydney Harbour and it will effect its temperature. Significantly? No.


So why did you say it was preposterous to suggest it affects climate at all? Were you too hysterical to bother making sense?
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #301 - Dec 17th, 2019 at 9:15pm
 
Frank do you think your own post is preposterous?

Or is hysterical a better adjective?
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #302 - Dec 17th, 2019 at 9:17pm
 
you seem a bit late getting back fd have you had a rip Van Winkle moment?..zzzzzz..

or do you just like old news! Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #303 - Dec 19th, 2019 at 6:40pm
 
I apologise if I caught you napping cods.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #304 - Dec 20th, 2019 at 9:22am
 
FD do you think this plausible?   Grin
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #305 - Dec 20th, 2019 at 10:01am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 20th, 2019 at 9:22am:
FD do you think this plausible?   Grin


It really depends, what you do with the tax.  If you use it to innovate, and devise a plan to diverse the course of asteroid, then, it is fully worth it.  And I dont think there is a soul from left or right would object. 

The alternate would be just laid down and die.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #306 - Dec 20th, 2019 at 10:20am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2019 at 9:15pm:
Frank do you think your own post is preposterous?

Or is hysterical a better adjective?

Preposterous, like agw.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #307 - Dec 21st, 2019 at 8:20am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Dec 20th, 2019 at 10:01am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 20th, 2019 at 9:22am:
FD do you think this plausible?   Grin


It really depends, what you do with the tax.  If you use it to innovate, and devise a plan to diverse the course of asteroid, then, it is fully worth it.  And I dont think there is a soul from left or right would object. 

The alternate would be just laid down and die.


Grin
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #308 - Dec 21st, 2019 at 9:01am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:17pm:
Ur....joking aren't ya....???

WELL

We are not the ones saying SIT DOWN SHUT UP cause the science is settled.

We're not the ones calling you guys heretics because of this new found religion of yours.

We are not the ones that say science is by consensus.

Talk about fanatics in the dictionary it will be a picture of a climate change extremist.

Seriously...you're joking right...........  Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley

The Joker................ Kiss



Tell us Ajax, how did you get the shill gig?  Does it pay at least ok?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you are not that fukkking stupid.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #309 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 3:11pm
 
random wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 9:01am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:17pm:
Ur....joking aren't ya....???

WELL

We are not the ones saying SIT DOWN SHUT UP cause the science is settled.

We're not the ones calling you guys heretics because of this new found religion of yours.

We are not the ones that say science is by consensus.

Talk about fanatics in the dictionary it will be a picture of a climate change extremist.

Seriously...you're joking right...........  Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley

The Joker................ Kiss



Tell us Ajax, how did you get the shill gig?  Does it pay at least ok?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you are not that fukkking stupid.



That's you in spades.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #310 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 5:43pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 24th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
random wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 9:01am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:17pm:
Ur....joking aren't ya....???

WELL

We are not the ones saying SIT DOWN SHUT UP cause the science is settled.

We're not the ones calling you guys heretics because of this new found religion of yours.

We are not the ones that say science is by consensus.

Talk about fanatics in the dictionary it will be a picture of a climate change extremist.

Seriously...you're joking right...........  Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley

The Joker................ Kiss



Tell us Ajax, how did you get the shill gig?  Does it pay at least ok?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you are not that fukkking stupid.



That's you in spades.


Wow, gee, I'm shattered by that comment.

Haven't heard anything like it since grade 7.  Or was it 8?

That all you got old man?

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #311 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 5:46pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 20th, 2019 at 9:22am:
FD do you think this plausible?   Grin







well we all know the only thing that will stop CLIMATE CHANGE IS A TAX... even if it isnt called a TAX..


so what you sayin willis? Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #312 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 5:54pm
 
Besides death and taxes there are two other truisms so far.

1. If you try to sell oil for anything other than US$'s your life expectancy is limited.  Ask Saddam and Mulma.

2. If you try to introduce a tax on carbon your political life expectancy is limited.  Ask Kevin and Malcolm.

But placing a price on it is the answer.  That's why it has not been allowed to be introduced.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #313 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
random wrote on Dec 24th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
But placing a price on it is the answer.


If a tax is the answer it was a bloody stupid question. Wink
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #314 - Dec 24th, 2019 at 6:28pm
 
Where I live, if I want to dump a truck load of green waste I have to pay for the right.

If a business pollutes the air that I breath and helps change the climate, costs them nothing.

Just a reminder about who is running the place.
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